The meeting between Malcolm and Jacqueline Rose in The Silent Woman is p electrifying!
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:16 (five years ago)
The Silent Woman is really great. In my memory it's a huge book: it fits so much into what is a pretty slim volume. Her book on psychoanalysis is fantastic.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:49 (five years ago)
oh wow -- she's in trouble today!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:04 (five years ago)
Re: Murnane, I read The Plains when I had a couple hours to kill in a library, and found it quite hypnotic and oddly funny, but I don’t really know what I took away from it. His story “Finger Web” still gives me chills, though - his weird stylistic tics, refusal to name characters, etc, have this kind of distancing effect even as the sense builds that something bad is going on, and then the last few paragraphs reveal the full horror of what he’s writing about. Very insidiously disturbing story, I recommend it!
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:46 (five years ago)
I just finished reading Chaos, by Tom O’Neill, his unnerving book from last year on the Manson case, the various possible conspiracies surrounding it, and the author’s own tendency to get lost in this labyrinth of contradictions and impossible-to-prove theories. Inevitably frustrating but still worth reading. Vincent Bugliosi sure seems to be a terrible person!
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:53 (five years ago)
I find Zambreno totally unreadable!
let it be known that table and i are the same person, i am a table sock, etc.
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:55 (five years ago)
i am the table
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:57 (five years ago)
Lol Brad.
I am to finish Mark Francis Johnson's Sham Refugia today, and then will spend the rest of the day preparing for the workshop I facilitate tonight...which means reading excerpts from a number of poets, plus poems from three workshop participants. Tuesdays are packed!
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:03 (five years ago)
Virtual, flesh, both?
― dow, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:16 (five years ago)
(None of the above?)(like a message board, then?)
― dow, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:17 (five years ago)
It's a Virtual thing. I started running them this past summer. Participants from all over the country! I'm running two this fall and both are already full.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:28 (five years ago)
i reread (with a 15 year interval) room temperature by nicholson baker. it lands differently now i'm a father, but it has not aged well objectively. i remember liking mezzanine more, so i'm going to reread that at some point this month too.
i'm now reading the unconsoled by kazuo ishiguro. about 1/4 the way through. it captures the maddening logic of a dream well. there's a bit with a piano performance that reminded me very strongly of the coffee tasting scene in mulholland drive. not sure if it's going to be interesting after 300 more pages.
but i'm not sure that interesting enough to sustain 500 pages. i guess we'll see.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:27 (five years ago)
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 bookmarkflaglink
Yes but I also love how, a mere 20 pages later, she is sitting in with Thomas.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:29 (five years ago)
Started Joyelle McSweeney's 'Toxicon & Arachne' this morning since I'm on a poetry jag. My feeling toward the book is pretty neutral, at this point-- like many poets with tenured jobs, the sociopolitical commentary in the work is a little too obvious and overdone to really make much of an impact on anyone whose read Language, KSW, or other associated movements. In other words, where it wants to be strident, it feels tame.
But seeing as how the second part of the book was written in the immediate aftermath of the death of her newborn and is supposed to be shockingly bracing, I'm going to stick with it.
As is often the case, I was sent this as a bonus with a book that the publisher thought I'd like to review...and that latter book turns out to be wholly unimpressive, imho, and this one more interesting.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:05 (five years ago)
I finished Curran's JAMES JOYCE REMEMBERED. Tremendous details in this book. I have Herbert Gorman's biography here, really ought to read that.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 10 September 2020 10:28 (five years ago)
i could almost wish it were twice as long. what sustains it imo is the use it puts this dream logic to - dissecting in agonising detail the quotidian agonies, anxieties, frustrations, and heartbreaks of human life (sounds amazing, sign me up!), leavened with a surreal humour that wouldn't be available in a more conventional narrative.
― neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 10 September 2020 13:29 (five years ago)
That McSweeney book I mentioned above doesn't get much better, sadly.
It makes me wonder sometimes how such mediocre talents get these fancy jobs, but alas, I guess I will be wondering such for the rest of my life. Or until I, a mediocre talent, get a fancy job.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:20 (five years ago)
10 years late to the party but I read A Visit from the Goon Squad last week. I think I would have enjoyed it a lot less if I had tried to read it before the pandemic: even when I didn't sympathize with the characters (which was often, because they're all pathological New Yorkers) I was willing to keep reading and allow the interesting things happening around them to distract me from the four walls closing in around my cat and me.
I then moved on to Nell Zink's The Wallcreeper, which I'm already nearly done with. Not sure there's enough plot and character development to keep the novel from dragging in places, but DANG! she can write. I can't remember the last book I read with such a high laughs-per-page ratio -- and the pages are small, so that's saying something!
― handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:07 (five years ago)
Started Gravity’s Rainbow. Made it through 80 pages in college, then 300 pages in law school. This time I’m going all the way.― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:24 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:24 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
Just this morning I finally finished after about 18 months of reading. Good god. So many questions; can someone explain it all to me? Why does Slothrop fade away in the last quarter of the book? Why the digressions to 1970 (is this to show a post-Rocket world living under fear of annihilation?)?
The Pökler chapter might be the most moving passage. The writing near the end is also very beautiful. More thoughts to come.
― James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:16 (five years ago)
My mother gave me two copies of Going Squad in back to back years. One was signed. Both were put on the curb without being read, though that's probably for the Authors You Will Never Read thread.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:17 (five years ago)
Xpost I enjoyed some of GR too, and could see how it was an (over-) extension of prev. perceived agenda in earlier stuff, which I preferred. Don't try too hard with it, like he did (yeah, I'm that one guy). Some people say none of his subsequent works are as Great, so maybe I'll try some of those too.
― dow, Friday, 11 September 2020 19:31 (five years ago)
I did subject Tremor of Intent to the totally unfair Random Read Test, and the words seemed to squirm with self-consciousness, but maybe I'll try again---the movie, at least: can see how he and Paul Thomas Anderson and Joaquin Phoenix might be kindred spirits, in a good way).
― dow, Friday, 11 September 2020 19:35 (five years ago)
Other Zink books are such a disappointment after Wallcreeper, sadly.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 12 September 2020 01:45 (five years ago)
Ciaran Carson - The Star Factory
Poet's prose. Full of words (you feel their materiality), a pile of digressions, reflections and experience. I'll check but I think Mandelstam does something similar in Journey to Armenia, except Belfast is where Carson has grown-up and lived. I think quotes about Belfast from other sources Carson picks up do at times detract a bit, just cutting him off when he is at his (and our) best. But that's a minor complaint in a great, great find.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 September 2020 10:51 (five years ago)
just started Too Much & Never Enough the Mary Trump book and am a couple of chapters in.Hadn't realised she was a clinical psychologist, just knew she was a niece.She's going over the childhood influences on why he may be behaving the way he does.NOt very long so will finish this before long i hope.Seemed to be one of the books on the subject that might be better tahn others and add some insight.I have soem o the others elsewhere that never moved down the to be read list
― Stevolende, Saturday, 12 September 2020 13:10 (five years ago)
Robert Draper - To Start a War: How the Bush Administration Took America Into IraqMuriel Spark - Reality and DreamsRobert Browning - The Ring and the Book
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 September 2020 13:14 (five years ago)
Norma Cole- Spinoza in Her Youth
Cole never fails to astound.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 12 September 2020 13:24 (five years ago)
xxxp just reminded me I have his translation of The Táin on my bookshelf, I must read it. He was a Gaeilgeoir as well I think, fairly uncommon in the North.
― scampo italiano (gyac), Saturday, 12 September 2020 13:50 (five years ago)
Nice, want to read his version of Inferno next.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 September 2020 09:14 (five years ago)
Someone - was it o.nate? - praised Jean Stafford's THE MOUNTAIN LION on here.
Last night I read this LRB review of Stafford:https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n12/tessa-hadley/and-he-drowned-the-cat
― the pinefox, Sunday, 13 September 2020 09:23 (five years ago)
Wole Soyinka Death and The King's Horseman. Interesting play set in colonial Nigeria.Shows a lot of racism and arrogant assumptions made by white colonial authorities. Reading it for a theatre group which should be interesting.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 13 September 2020 12:54 (five years ago)
The Mountain Lion is terrific. The Catherine Wheel was the first novel I read under quarantine.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 September 2020 12:57 (five years ago)
wondering where to ask about the book 1491 by Charles C Mann.Are there major differences between editions, different years and different territories or anything.Or is teh 2006 UK on going to be as good as the more recent US Update? & if so are they significant?
― Stevolende, Sunday, 13 September 2020 13:23 (five years ago)
Robert Musil - Posthumous Papers of a Living AuthorStanislaw Lem - Highcastle A Remembrance
Lem's novella sized essay on his growing up in pre-war Poland among French novels and made up schemes was fine enough, in some ways his struggle with Proust points to why this doesn't endure. Not that Lem wanted this series of recollections to be anything more.
The Musil is again, a minor collections of sketches and fragments that, when framed in his best writing, take on another dimension entirely. Its interesting how fascinating and annoyed he was by psychoanalysis, but he needs length to explore.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 September 2020 22:17 (five years ago)
I am reading some R.K. Narayan, The Bachelor of Arts. His tales are always both human and gentle, which qualities are good for my mental state atm.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 14 September 2020 22:25 (five years ago)
xxxp don't remember The Catherine Wheel very well, but seems to be regarded as a letdown after Boston Adventure and The Mountain Lion, both of which i thought were outstanding. Ditto what I've read of Collected Stories, gotta get back to that.
Next April, Library of America will follow their Collected Novels with a volume of collected and uncollected stories, essays, and the somewhat notorious A Mother In History, from time spent w Marguerite Oswald. Stafford is in my literary punk pantheon, along with Flannery O'Connor and Kelly Link.
― dow, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 01:08 (five years ago)
It wasn't me - this is the first I've heard of it, but it does sound like an interesting book. I just finished Song of the Lark by Willa Cather. It's a more interesting tale of the development of an ambitious young artist than Dr Faustus, which I abandoned earlier this year. It's a big canvas novel, in terms of settings, character development, and the range of time it covers, although the cast of characters remains fairly small and focused around the main character of Thea Kronborg. I guess it's on the cusp of the 19th and 20th century novel (it was published in 1915). The scenes of small--town, frontier Colorado are particularly memorable, and the development of the main character through childhood, adolescence and maturity is psychologically perceptive. I found it quite enjoyable. Now I'm reading a collection of 2 novellas by Natalia Ginzburg Valentino and Sagittarius.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 00:28 (five years ago)
he scenes of small--town, frontier Colorado are particularly memorable, and the development of the main character through childhood, adolescence and maturity is psychologically perceptive. The central character of The Mountain Lion, some shorter works, and Stafford herself came out of that setting, maybe more and certainly to an extent differently influenced by the remoteness and the terrain and the times than some other characters.
Cather's The Professor's House, which I went on about upthread, unless it was the previous WAYR, is---not just like The Song of the Lark, but compatible.
― dow, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 00:45 (five years ago)
"Stafford is in my literary punk pantheon, along with Flannery O'Connor and Kelly Link."
I find that interesting, Dow! Have read about Link, but not actually read the work.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 13:50 (five years ago)
I can't praise Cather enough.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 13:53 (five years ago)
She's amazing. Come to think of it, now I'm wondering if The Heart is a Lonely Hunter came in part from absorbing My Antonia and O Pioneers!---recurring characters through the years, in and out of the foreground, but w a sense of axis pov, of protagonist and/or author---and later Cather, like The Professor's House, following a more interior somewhat vs. exterior line of development---could apply also from going to The Heart... to Member of the Wedding and some of McCuller's shorter fiction.
xpost Pinefox, maybe start with Link's latest collection, Get In Trouble. Others in the pantheon: Highsmith, Tiptree, maybe Jane Bowles, Plath---oh, and what I know of Anna Akhmatova, in the translations of Babette Deutsch and Lyn Coffin, set to music by Iris DeMent, on The Trackless Woods. But mainly punks on the page. that's about it. Standards are very strict.
― dow, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:37 (five years ago)
Haven't read enough Cather. I teach "Paul's Case" quite often, and many students hate it, to my utmost horror. I think it's brilliant!
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 September 2020 23:17 (five years ago)
At the moment toggling between poetry and philosophy, a practice I had earlier in the pandemic but gave up as the heat got to my brain. Diving back in:
Carlos Lara- Like Bismuth When I Enter= a protege of LA-based Surrealist Black experimentalist Will Alexander, Lara's work is clearly in the mold of Alexander's, but parts from Alexander's in interesting ways, most notably in the length and momentum of Lara's line— long, propulsive, and dense, rather than more ponderous and porphyric, as Alexander's tend to be. At first I was unable to detect as much "political" content in the work, but as I move forward, more themes seem to emerge, and I'm finding myself excited by it in ways that I wasn't when I first began.
Jean-Luc Nancy- Being Singular Plural= I love what little I've read of Nancy, and this is no exception. Only about 20 pages in, but totally invested in his thought.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 September 2020 23:23 (five years ago)
Replace Hemingway with Cather on the middle school canon imo
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 September 2020 23:25 (five years ago)
I love what little I've read of Nancy, and this is no exception.
Make sure you read Expectation, which collects many of his most important writings on literature over several decades. The Literary Absolute (with the late Philippe Lacoue-Labarthe) is also a classic, if you care about Early German Romanticism.
― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, 17 September 2020 23:26 (five years ago)
I praised The Mountain Lion! It was good and sad and challenging. I would never want to meet the author.
― rb (soda), Friday, 18 September 2020 02:04 (five years ago)
I put a hold on it at my library. I want to see what all the fuss is about.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 18 September 2020 02:34 (five years ago)
i finished the unconsoled. it was exactly like having someone describe a dream to me, which is not a good thing imo.
golden gates - somewhat gossipy journalistic book about the rise of yimbyism the housing crisis, and local politics in the bay area. good writing and analysis as far as it goes, but the focus (and sympathies) are clearly on the yimby side of a ~five-sided debate.
now reading riddley walker (slow going because i'm reading it and my brain is mush, but it seems great) and listening to the right stuff (obviously interesting subject matter, but oy vey tom wolfe prose).
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 September 2020 03:57 (five years ago)
James Acaster, Perfect Sound Whatever
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 18 September 2020 08:41 (five years ago)
caek, you might like the screen version, minus Wolfe prose, but, like the book at its best, w Wild Blue Yonder sardonic plot shading, esp. later on---won't spoil. Alfred, which Hemingway would you suggest for middle school? We had to read The Old Man and The Sea, among shorties by various authors, but did seem tedious at times. My copy was inscribed by a previous reader: "I hate the old man. Get him, sea!"
― dow, Friday, 18 September 2020 15:39 (five years ago)