Summer 2020: What Are You Reading as the Sun Bakes the Arctic Ocean?

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Just added Eula biss’s new one “having and being had” (about capitalism apparently) to my queue too.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

Goodreads is an unbelievably badly done website but it’s where I keep my list. Please add me I’m so lonely.

https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/80167070-mike

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 3 September 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

I'm https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/55905-james

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 4 September 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

haha, not an Emily Brontë fan, caek?

jmm, Friday, 4 September 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link

Ha I think I posted about that here. Really lost my rag with that one.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 September 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link

I've followed you both!

I've given up on anything heavy and have picked up Peter Biskind's Easy Riders, Raging Bulls. It's grim, and everyone involved is an arsehole of one kind or another, but it's kinda compelling.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 4 September 2020 09:22 (three years ago) link

Deleted my goodreads some months ago in a "fuck Bezos" fit and now I've got fomo :(

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 4 September 2020 09:31 (three years ago) link

I have a gr account but I never use it and have never really got anything out of it, and I could def stand to have less bezos in my life so it seems a good place to start. I got a really basic bookshelf app to note what I’ve been reading (with a ui as bad as gr) and I’ve been occasionally posting pictures of books on Instagram (tho I am still needing an equivalent of ilxor neechy’s turntable Dennis the menace) which along with lurking & sometimes posting here is probably all the readerly social network I need

Gab C. Nebsit (wins), Friday, 4 September 2020 09:39 (three years ago) link

I used to keep a 'reading diary' that just listed a date and where I was when I read the book - I've got details going back to 1999. I use GoodReads for this now. It's a pretty ordinary site but it does a job.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 4 September 2020 09:42 (three years ago) link

goodreads is terrible site-wise, yes. navigating back from a page, on app or web, appears to do the entire previous (slow) request again. some of the alternate apps are better but i think the server-side code is a limiting factor.

koogs, Friday, 4 September 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

it honestly looks like no one has touched the code for 15 years. but it's quick to add things to my list, and i like getting a little alert when someone i follow starts a new book.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

I am: https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/27469265-jer-fairall

Rarely updated these days, as I'm mostly re-reading and reading articles/individual chapters of academic books as I write my dissertation. But I'll follow anyone who posts their links here.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 4 September 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

the only good social network is inaturalist, but goodreads is one of the less bad ones.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 September 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

Now reading a bit of Wodehouse insanity, Uncle Fred in the Springtime, with a plot so convoluted it could not be summarized in fewer than 20 closely-spaced pages.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 4 September 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

Lurev it, rec'd it a couple times on prev WAYRs: Uncle Fred is truly to the manor born, but/and truly means to help---something like a funhouse Jeeves...

dow, Friday, 4 September 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

Lurv it, that is.

dow, Friday, 4 September 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

I publish my list at the end of every year. Here's my 2019: https://tedreeswords.com/2020/01/01/books-read-2019/

But keep in mind that I was on a light teaching load and never went out.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 September 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

There's also an ILB thread for year-end reading lists every year. Here's last year's: What did you read in 2019?

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 5 September 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

Thanks Aimless! Tbh I only started looking at this board upon my most recent return to ILX.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 September 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link

It's a fine little corner of ILX. Very soothing compared to the other boards. Opinions abound here but any controversies are served unheated.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 6 September 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

Agreed.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 6 September 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

I've really struggled with picking up something that sticks with me recently. Had a failed run at Murnane's The Plains, which felt like one big joke that went on too long, with not a lot grounding it in actual humanity. Was initially thrilled with, but quickly bored by, Gombrowicz' Diaries. Saw Drifts by Kate Zambreno getting discussed a bit, and thought it sounded interesting. Was definitely a nice balm, very readable, and has helped me get out of the rut I was in. I enjoy most of the stuff marketed as autofiction, and I think this one nicely captures a sense of the distractedness of modern life, of the struggle to pay attention and get something done, but still finding moments of joy within it all: from art, relationships, animals (Especially animals. She really loves her dog to a degree that is alien to me as a non-pet lover). Contains meditations on some of my own favourite writers like Walser, Sebald, Kafka, but she is mainly preoccupied by the life of Rilke, a writer I've always found it hard to connect with. Introduced me to the work of Durer. Takes digs at Knausgaard and Lerner for the way they approach their work, but is trying to do basically the same thing as they do. Is she as successful as them? For me, less than Knausgaard, about the same as Lerner.

triggercut, Monday, 7 September 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

I reread John Gross's JAMES JOYCE (1970), the first book on Joyce I ever read and, I realise, probably a crucial book in setting my literary interests for life - even though the book is no hagiography.

A brief skim of life and work, it's superbly readable - a model of how to 'introduce' something in prose so smooth that the reader hardly notices it's there. The life is narrated with terrific succinctness, and accuracy. Many of the judgments are fair, and I found literally no errors of fact that I can recall.

It does make more of Ulysses being a maze of allusions and myths than I would, or many might do now - this seems to me rather a false problem. Most of what's in Ulysses can be deciphered quite straightforwardly, when 'decipher' is even the word. It's also unusually harsh on the character of Molly Bloom. (There were 18 of these Modern Masters volumes at the time, all about male figures, and all by male authors.)

The oddest thing about the book is that it almost never quotes Joyce's actual work at all. I wonder if this was for copyright reasons, or Gross just thought he could paraphrase it all more briskly. He does it very well, but with this of all authors it might be relevant to see the actual words on the page.

the pinefox, Monday, 7 September 2020 09:44 (three years ago) link

Triggercut, I'd try the plains again when or if yr ever in the mood for a book about what it means to be an artist. In the end, it is a book that is one long, weird allegory, that has some really interesting bits in it...

But then again, we could just have differing taste, as I find Zambreno totally unreadable! Lol

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 7 September 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

I want to like Murnane so badly because a) I find him a really interesting figure, and b) as an Australian I have massive cultural cringe when it comes to literature. He's one of the few prominent Australian writers who seems to owe a lot to Modernism, and feels totally seperate from the bland Winton-core peddled by most Australian writers. So I appreciate him for that, but have found it difficult to connect with his work.

I got a fair way through his Collected Stories about a year or so ago, and liked it okay, but I didn't feel much, besides being a little alienated. For The Plains, I found the bits about the rival artistic movements amusing, and enjoyed the idea the scenes involving the artists clamouring for patronage from the completely pissed landowners. I got up to the part where the filmmaker gets to the landowner's estate and that's where it lost me. I get that it's allegorical, but I couldn't really feel much, or connect the world or people he was talking about to any reality. But that's on me, I guess. This has been a weird year, so I notice that I'm frustrated by the stuff that actually challenges me, and am enjoying the stuff that soothes me. I'm sure I'll give it another go eventually.

triggercut, Monday, 7 September 2020 12:22 (three years ago) link

Aus is a blind spot for me too, tbh. Other than Murnane and some Aboriginal poets like Lionel Fogarty, I'm at a loss!

(Then again, I'm from the US and live here still, so that I know anything about Australian lit at all is somewhat of an achievement, I guess!)

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 7 September 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

Also, tho, I do think that one has to sort of be in a very specific mindset to really dive into Murnane. I just happened to approach him at the right time of my life!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 7 September 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

Yall have me trying to think of---somebody---whose life work, as described in contextualizing of a collection, I inferred as ummmmm---maybe like Alice Munro, that kind of discipline, but also with more of a sense of personal experience, what she and/or other women have come to at this point, and what they make of it, in her view. Does that ring a bell---? Damn I can almost see her name.

dow, Monday, 7 September 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

I am now reading Picture a long form journalistic piece by Lillian Ross profiling John Huston as he attempts to film a script of The Red Badge of Courage. It was originally published as a serial in the New Yorker in 1952. This is a NYRB reprint edition I checked out of the local public library.

Sorry, I can't help with the author name, dow.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 7 September 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

Should have specified that I was trying to think of an Australian short story specialist's name (though she may have also written a novel or two). Somebody still active, at least 'til recently.

dow, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link

Somebody well into middle age, or older.

dow, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link

Helen Garner?

triggercut, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 07:47 (three years ago) link

Listening: Just started John Crowley's AEgypt. I struggle with Crowley. I've started both Little, Big and Engine Summer. The first was impenetrable, the second maybe a little easier on the brain.

I love all three of those, will reread them someday, but you inspired me to read Beasts which was also great, and basically takes Wittengtstein quote "If a lion could speak we could not understand him" as its starting point. Now to get hold of his book about intelligent crows. We have a John Crowley thread btw: Tell Me About John Crowley

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 08:33 (three years ago) link

Maria Gabriela Llansol - The Geography of Rebels
Janet Malcolm - The Silent Woman

Probably this year's most challenging read, not that it was difficult to read, more around getting hold of a writer's voice and where its coming from. The book seems to involve a series of tableaux involving a cast of characters drawn from the medieval all the way up to Nietzsche. They share a space in a commune-like manner, and all that comes with it - mostly thoughts, some around the practice of writing, in her obituary you get some of her own personal history.

An interesting writer except it will need more translations and multiple reads.

No problems as such with Malcolm's book on Plath. Like the poems, read Bell Jar and love Letters Home. It was good to live with this material and knowing the (boring, like so much of the literary scene) controversy before reading this book. Its a biography within a biography as Malcolm details the culture industry surrounding Plath and Hughes, where she goes after the biographers. She says she comes down on the side of Hughes (I think this is more out of the sense of the way he has been treated by biographers), but she details enough of all sides, for the most part. I think it lacks is a bit more detail on Assia Wevill (the woman Hughes left Plath for), as a counter balance to the detail on Plath's main boyfriend before Hughes came along. Plath disparages the previous boyfriend as not enough of a hunk; otoh Wevill was a beauty in the way Plath was not (Malcolm says this in one line but leaves it)). There is tabloidy level stuff that Malcolm often gets at but doesn't go on with, which you can be also thankful for. The story is as balanced as its going to get, but I can see how it could never be the final word. Although it is for me. What makes the book are the asides on the nature of writing, biography, journalism, stories and memory, so you learn things too, rather than just interviews with mostly terrible people.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 09:04 (three years ago) link

Count me as someone who loves Murnane. Like tiggercut, some of the set pieces in The Plains left something to be desired, but the writing is so so good I ended up not caring. He is probably the only (maybe Anne Carson) writer in English that I'd like to win the Nobel (I get the sense Australians would be trolled by this, but its mostly because he is one of the few writers writing in English that aren't embarrassing). Really look forward to picking up a couple more books that have been published/re-issued over here in the last year or so.

I enjoy most of the stuff marketed as autofiction, and I think this one nicely captures a sense of the distractedness of modern life, of the struggle to pay attention and get something done, but still finding moments of joy within it all: from art, relationships, animals (Especially animals. She really loves her dog to a degree that is alien to me as a non-pet lover). Contains meditations on some of my own favourite writers like Walser, Sebald, Kafka, but she is mainly preoccupied by the life of Rilke, a writer I've always found it hard to connect with. Introduced me to the work of Durer.

I like this but I am really trying to avoid writers talking about other writers. Seems lazy, plus I think I am getting to a stage where I've read as much as the writer so any thoughts on it might rub me up the wrong way too (I've read a ton of Rilke, and all of those other people).

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link

I've finally started on a book I've owned for years and never read: C.P. Curran, JAMES JOYCE REMEMBERED (1968). Despite having read a lot about Joyce over the years, I've been curiously neglectful of the genre of 'the Joyce I knew'. Well, I know Budgen, Gilbert (x2), Power - but I never read Curran, Colum or even, in truth, the brother.

It's fascinating, actually, to get this almost first-hand account. The detail of what Joyce really read at university, the way he talked, etc. Glad to be on this book now.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

Helen Garner?
Sounds right, thanks triggercut! Think this is what I read:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/12/12/helen-garners-savage-self-scrutiny

one of the few writers writing in English that aren't embarrassing Helluva blurb!

dow, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

I read The Silent Woman when The New Yorker published a long excerpt in the summer of '93; it haunted me. I love her Chekhov and Stein studies, but this one might be her best.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

The meeting between Malcolm and Jacqueline Rose in The Silent Woman is p electrifying!

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

The Silent Woman is really great. In my memory it's a huge book: it fits so much into what is a pretty slim volume. Her book on psychoanalysis is fantastic.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

oh wow -- she's in trouble today!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

Re: Murnane, I read The Plains when I had a couple hours to kill in a library, and found it quite hypnotic and oddly funny, but I don’t really know what I took away from it. His story “Finger Web” still gives me chills, though - his weird stylistic tics, refusal to name characters, etc, have this kind of distancing effect even as the sense builds that something bad is going on, and then the last few paragraphs reveal the full horror of what he’s writing about. Very insidiously disturbing story, I recommend it!

JoeStork, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

I just finished reading Chaos, by Tom O’Neill, his unnerving book from last year on the Manson case, the various possible conspiracies surrounding it, and the author’s own tendency to get lost in this labyrinth of contradictions and impossible-to-prove theories. Inevitably frustrating but still worth reading. Vincent Bugliosi sure seems to be a terrible person!

JoeStork, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

I find Zambreno totally unreadable!

let it be known that table and i are the same person, i am a table sock, etc.

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

i am the table

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

Lol Brad.

I am to finish Mark Francis Johnson's Sham Refugia today, and then will spend the rest of the day preparing for the workshop I facilitate tonight...which means reading excerpts from a number of poets, plus poems from three workshop participants. Tuesdays are packed!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Virtual, flesh, both?

dow, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

(None of the above?)(like a message board, then?)

dow, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

It's a Virtual thing. I started running them this past summer. Participants from all over the country! I'm running two this fall and both are already full.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

i reread (with a 15 year interval) room temperature by nicholson baker. it lands differently now i'm a father, but it has not aged well objectively. i remember liking mezzanine more, so i'm going to reread that at some point this month too.

i'm now reading the unconsoled by kazuo ishiguro. about 1/4 the way through. it captures the maddening logic of a dream well. there's a bit with a piano performance that reminded me very strongly of the coffee tasting scene in mulholland drive. not sure if it's going to be interesting after 300 more pages.

but i'm not sure that interesting enough to sustain 500 pages. i guess we'll see.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link


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