London ILB - FAP?

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when fizzles resurfaces (and tells the fishing story) this is the second book i was talking about:
https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Qba0h8ouL._SL500_SX304_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

"puffin plus" means "scariest YA book evah"

mark s, Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:28 (eight years ago)

Ah yes, had a couple of 'quiet' days. Ok, that looks great. And that Puffin Plus series was often great and harrowing iirr, lots of nuclear apocalypse and horror - the scarecrows and devil on the road by robert westall, brother in the land are the ones that immediately spring to mind.

So:

from Lodovico Guicciardini’s account of his travels in the Low Countries, Descrittione di Lodovico Guicciardini patritio fiorentino di tutti i Paesi Bassi altrimenti detti Germania inferiore (1567)—published in English in 1597 as The Description of the Low Countreys

This is an Ilande in which are some villages abounding with excellent good pastures, greate plentie of Cattell and excellent good fish, especialle Dog-fish, the taking wherof is verie strange and ridiculous, for you shall understand that the Ilande men disguise themselves like Beasts, and in that attire go to the Seaside at such times as they knowe that these fishes will come forth of the sea to take the ayre for their recreation upon the shore, then these diguised men fall and dauncing and leaping with the which sport the fishes being greatly delighted are by the means drawne far from the Sea, while in the meane time nets are pitched betweene the Sea and them, which being done, the dauncers throwe off there digsuised apparell and discovere themselves, wherewith the fishes being astonished, flee towards the Sea and are taken in the nets.

Any explanations accepted. As I said my current ones are

1) He didn’t actually go to Schellinck, and despite sort of implying that he has seen this curious custom, was having his leg pulled (or he totally misunderstood what the person was saying – possible in an area with so many dialects. It is a pretty total misunderstanding though)

2) Something of the sort actually took place and, as it is clearly described as a custom, also worked.

3) Something went badly wrong with the translation (I haven't read the original), though that does imply an equal credulity on the part of the translator.

4) He was on drugs.

I've got a note here that says 'John le Carré' but that isn't enormously helpful by itself.

Likewise 'ducks and love' (terms of address rather than er... another obscure hunting method)

'Dog chasing carrier jet' boris I can (I think this must have been by analogy of the old thing of dogs chasing cars: 'what will they do if they catch it?' - times a thousand here obv)

MiG-29SMT(R) under attack at Khmeimim airbase. pic.twitter.com/TftsOaeQmu

— monitoring (@warsmonitoring) September 14, 2017

The review of the Hilary Clinton biography in the style of someone has no recent memory of politics:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/10/what-happened-review-so-long.html

Also a note here for 'those who dwell within walls of felt' as the literal description of the mongols, but i can't remember why.

Hospital literature - fragments as much as anything else:
Voice Through a Cloud - Denton Welch, which contains this:

Last Monday I went to supper with Noel Adeney. We had cold soup flavoured with claret, and fennel in long green shreds; then a sort of pilau of rice, onions fried, pimento excitingly scarlet like dogs’ tools, and grated cheese. The tiniest new potatoes and salad. Afterwards plums, and creamy mild tomato cocktail to drink.

and the gin and hot chicken stock (now remembering mark s' toast sandwich lol)

A Peep Round the Twist - Kingsley Amis
Early part on morphine in The Strings are False - Louis MacNiece
Tim - you suggested a Swedish novel... Winter's something? Sounded good, if harrowing

Molto Adagio – Andante – Heiliger Dankgesang eines Genesenen an die Gottheit, in der lydischen Tonart. A song of holy thanks giving by one recently recovering from illness, in the lydian mode. the third movement of Beethoven's 15th String Quarter

one of my all time favourite pieces. and then inevitably, but I do think it captures something of both the institutionalisation and the delirium of hospital

The Fall - Your Future Our Clutter

and last but very much not least, many apologies for that terrible rambling and uncogent story about the football league game. I have found it, though:

Saturday 9th December 1995. Swansea in an uncovered stand at the far end of the old Manor Ground where it pissed down with rain solidly, and where after 1-1 in the first half, Oxford put another six past them at the home end. The 50-a-day (according to this kid) midfielder might have been Mickey Lewis, but i can't remember at this remove.

Enjoyed the evening very much.

Fizzles, Sunday, 8 October 2017 11:08 (eight years ago)

i wrote up the toast sandwiches (and the rest) a while back:
http://freakytrigger.co.uk/pumpkin/2003/10/invalid-food

mark s, Sunday, 8 October 2017 11:19 (eight years ago)

incidentally:

A person whose agency or participation in a proceeding is made use of to prevent its real design from being suspected.

1612 J. Webster White Divel iii. i. 41 You..were made his engine, and his stauking horse, To undo my sister.
1694 W. Congreve Double-dealer ii. i. 20 Do you think her fit for nothing but to be a Stalking-Horse, to stand before you, while you take aim at my Wife?
a1763 W. Shenstone Progress of Taste i. in Wks. (1764) I. 265 Let me provide Some human form to grace my side; At hand,..An useful, pliant, stalking-horse!
1963 Times 12 Jan. 6/2 This meant that the Europeans would regard us as the stalking horse or paid hand of Uncle Sam and would not wish us to participate fully in European affairs.
1977 J. M. Harrison in Bond & McLeod Newslett. to Newspapers iii. 208 Zenger was actually a stalking horse for the group of wealthy politicians who owned the New York Journal.
1980 Jewish Chron. 15 Feb. 1/1 It raises the fear that the Irish may be acting as a stalking horse for the whole European Economic Community.

Fizzles, Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:06 (eight years ago)

(fowlers aiming to catch birds rather than hunters aiming to shoot deer)

mark s, Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:12 (eight years ago)

earlier this week dreamed we attempted a fap in the west of ireland at a village on a remote strand. the hotel we were in was shabby but comfortable, with an excellent bar - broken backed armchairs, fireplace, good whisky, wine and beer, and roasted meats. the hotel was at the base of the village, which was cobbled, and rose up the side of the cliff - woof and i wandered round it and got back to the hotel bar to find mark s sitting there reading a huge old volume of Dr Johnson, around which we constructed a complicated parlour game - even in the dream i couldn't really work out the rules or what the hell was going on.

looked out of the leaded window at the channel of water that separated the village from the mainland. very silvery under the grey skies, and realised that the others would struggle to get there because of stormy weather and incoming tide.

there was drinking and merriment, and then went up the very steep winding stairs to our bedrooms. there was something else odd about this that I can't remember now - something to do with Newton? Anyway, I passed out on the bed, but woke up in the dead of night, and went up and onto the roof of the turreted hotel. The storm had passed, an the sky was full of tattered clouds, with a full moon. looked over the sea crashing into the coast.

was a good dream. suggest we actually go there for the next fap.

Fizzles, Sunday, 22 October 2017 11:27 (eight years ago)

"i hear you're a blockhead now father"

mark s, Sunday, 22 October 2017 11:50 (eight years ago)

Haven't I been saying it for years. could nominate ten places, if you'll compromise on cobbles.

Have ye read Kevin Barry's short story on the madness that inhabits just such a residence on the night of a flood in killary?

NB I was locationally convenient but temporally unavailable for a fap last night but ilb cru are far out of my depth anyway tbh

That's some triangulation puzzle rly

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 October 2017 22:57 (eight years ago)

Haven't I been saying it for years. could nominate ten places, if you'll compromise on cobbles.

Have ye read Kevin Barry's short story on the madness that inhabits just such a residence on the night of a flood in killary?

NB I was locationally convenient but temporally unavailable for a fap last night but ilb cru are far out of my depth anyway tbh

That's some triangulation puzzle rly


bollocks. ilb fap = swimming out of depth as rapidly as possible with the aid of alcohol and then floundering enjoyably.

i have not read the kevin barry short story but am now inclined to.

this is all making want a drink but as noted upthread i am not drinking currently, i mean not much.

the cobbles seemed odd even in the dream tbh. bit french.

Fizzles, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:37 (eight years ago)

very VERY short notice but ilb-ers who want to see geeta, we are meeting in the windsor castle in lower clapton road tonight from around 630 tonight

mark s, Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:41 (eight years ago)

Aw, give Geeta my love but I've zero chance of getting to Clapton tonight.

Tim, Thursday, 2 November 2017 18:24 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

I thought briefly about posting this to the ILM year-end lists thread but it's probably better here: https://www.a-n.co.uk/news/artists-books-2017-10-best-noise-alphabet-rearranged-romance

Festive pint anyone? Or are we better giving Pub Amateur Month the swerve?

Tim, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 16:01 (eight years ago)

"London-based artist"

mark s, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 16:02 (eight years ago)

Festive pint anyone? Or are we better giving Pub Amateur Month the swerve?

All London-based piss artists welcome.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 18:16 (eight years ago)

Nice you are an artist now Tim - we must celebrate :)

I am around Thurs 14th (7th is tricky..)

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 November 2017 14:54 (eight years ago)

I think I could be there on the 14th.

Tim, Friday, 1 December 2017 10:30 (eight years ago)

Cool, #metoo, lets set it - see you then.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)

Tim you about, anybody else or shall we postpone? Just recalled this now..

I think I'll go as I want game pie in this weather

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:20 (eight years ago)

I am about, I'll be very happy to join you in your game (pie) (or get one of my own).

Tim, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:25 (eight years ago)

Excellent, should be there six-ish

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:26 (eight years ago)

I'll try to get down, 8.30ish.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:28 (eight years ago)

shopping all day so attendance uncertain -- will try, may be fried

mark s, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:29 (eight years ago)

five months pass...

31st or 7th, or let me know of dates you are comfortable with?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 May 2018 11:23 (eight years ago)

I'll be out-of-town for both, sadly; could do the Thursday before or (better still) after. But don't let me stop you obv.

Tim, Monday, 14 May 2018 11:35 (eight years ago)

Been too long since I made one of these… away on the 7th, but 31st ok.

woof, Monday, 14 May 2018 13:16 (eight years ago)

My Thursdays are all free due to having yoga on that evening - something I'll gladly weasel my way out of for some drinks & book chat.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 May 2018 13:53 (eight years ago)

Cool.

woof and Tim, you both about 14th June then?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:00 (eight years ago)

I can be.

Tim, Monday, 14 May 2018 21:43 (eight years ago)

Lets go for the 14th then.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 09:30 (eight years ago)

yeah, I think that works for me.

woof, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 09:41 (eight years ago)

Excellent. Its been a totally shit year so it'll be good to see you all.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 09:50 (eight years ago)

yes, can do 14th.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:52 (eight years ago)

will see if i can put in an appearance before i move to BIRMINGHAM.

lana del boy (ledge), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 19:05 (eight years ago)

Stunned silence, you'll note, ledge. London cru in mourning etc, black crepe armbands.

Fizzles, Thursday, 17 May 2018 09:53 (eight years ago)

Oh calamity! Still it's not the ends of the Earth. Almost.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 May 2018 10:21 (eight years ago)

The barren middles. It's very up and coming though. Oh wait gentrification is a bad thing... so conflicted.

lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 17 May 2018 10:30 (eight years ago)

second city is the first loser city

koogs, Thursday, 17 May 2018 11:40 (eight years ago)

Second loser city in this country iirc.

Tim, Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:40 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

This is tomorrow, didn't realise it was the start of the world cup but the opening game will be over by then.

(Tim - could you lend me a copy of Anna Edes? No worries if you can't)

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 05:46 (seven years ago)

Sure. I’ll be along after the game.

Tim, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 06:20 (seven years ago)

Looks like I won't be seeing much of the World Cup this year, the games being on at civilized times. I'll be there after 8.

We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 09:19 (seven years ago)

I am coughing and sweating and am not going to be able to make it out today, sorry all.

Tim, Thursday, 14 June 2018 07:25 (seven years ago)

Oh no Tim :-( get well soon

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 June 2018 08:31 (seven years ago)

ah balls. get well soon.

Fizzles, Thursday, 14 June 2018 09:18 (seven years ago)

Ah I'm alright, it's just that I have it drummed deep into me that if I'm too ill to go to school I'm too ill to go out and have fun.

Tim, Thursday, 14 June 2018 09:46 (seven years ago)

thanks to parenthood (+ multiple other stressors not least of which of course is THE MAN) i'm also feeling like the pub isn't the best idea tonight.

lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 14 June 2018 12:29 (seven years ago)

fair enough. stick it to the man tho, you know.

Fizzles, Thursday, 14 June 2018 12:50 (seven years ago)

Defying the man tonight

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)

Thinking of arriving by seven, will anyone be there by then?

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)

i will be, if my fucking useless manager gets back to me with his fucking questions at any point, anyway.

Fizzles, Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:01 (seven years ago)


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