I carried on about Bowen's Collected Stories on a previous What Are You Reading (the current thread's title is derived from one of hers)---it's a bit uneven in the early 30s section, but overall very enjoyable. USA Trilogy has some arresting passages, but can come off like compulsive, insatiable, desperate and/or heedless activity too often, though he might say that's the point he's making about various (not all) characters and alarming American tendencies, How We Got This Way. But think I got that point pretty early. Mind you he pulled me along for the whole thing, even though I'm not nearly as tireless as his people (or him, god knows).
― dow, Thursday, 22 June 2017 00:50 (eight years ago)
To continue the crosstalk with the rolling thread, Elizabeth Bowen was another correspondent of Eudora Welty.
― Guidonian Handsworth Revolution (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2017 00:53 (eight years ago)
xpost And some of those fave Dos Passos "passages" might be--up to 100 pages apiece--? Think so.
― dow, Thursday, 22 June 2017 00:54 (eight years ago)
remaindered books i just bought cheap
Christopher Miller - American Cornball: A Laffopedic Guide to the Formerly FunnyLive From New York: The Complete, Uncensored History of Saturday Night LiveMara Wilson - Where Am I Now?Joe Sacco - JournalismDenis Johnson - Jesus' SonJohn Scalzi - The Human DivisionKen Liu - The Paper Menagerie and Other StoriesVanderMeers - The Big Book of Science Fiction
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:41 (eight years ago)
Just bought cheap ebook of T.C. Boyce's latest, The Terranauts. I have always avoided him and am still worried that he will turn out to be one of those award-winning authors that leave me cold. More importantly, don't see how this book can measure up to another novel mining the same material which I continue to view as a Future ILB Favorite That So Far Only I Have Read, that being Martian Dawn, by Michael Friedman.
― Guidonian Handsworth Revolution (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 July 2017 14:59 (eight years ago)
4 for 3 euro
Alasdair Gray - LanarkPaul McGrath - Back from the brinkWilliam S Burroughs - Naked LunchWilla Cather - My Antonia
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 8 July 2017 13:52 (eight years ago)
Derek Bailey and The Story of Free Improvisation by Ben WatsonNorthern Sun, Southern Moon by Mike Heffley
― Stevolende, Saturday, 8 July 2017 14:14 (eight years ago)
2nd hand racks for the last few weeks:
Diana Athill - Make BelieveElizabeth Hardwick - Herman MelvilleAnn Quin - Berg (read this a long time ago - weird copy, the cover is taken from the film adaptation of it, starring Richard E. Grant)Joseph Roth - What I Saw: Reports from Berlin 1920-33 (read this and lost it in a hotel, of all places)U.R. Anantha Murthy - BhavaU.R. Anantha Murthy - Samskara (really nice to score two titles in two weeks of 2nd hand cherry picking by this obscure-ish author I've wanted to read for a long time)Janet Malcolm - Reading ChekhovHerman Melville - Bartleby/Benito Cereno
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2017 19:46 (eight years ago)
I bought All Out War, the big book about Brexit, on the promise of its very readable style and some juicy gossip, but after three chapters I just got fed up of reading about arseholes and quit.
Also Roth's Ghost Writer, based on recommendation on another thread
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 14 July 2017 22:03 (eight years ago)
Derek Bailey and The Story of Free Improvisation by Ben Watson
This is fun, good match of author & subject w the latter subverting the former. Coincidentally I just this minute picked up his art, class & cleavage for a quid at the sally ann, I'm pretty up for it. His Zappa book looks like a nightmare tho
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Saturday, 15 July 2017 11:21 (eight years ago)
AC&C is terrific: IMO bw's most valuable book (bcz the most openly personal)
poodleplay: i am not AT ALL a zappahead and think the adorno stuff in it is let us say a CONTENTIOUS READING of twa's face to the world… in general i think bw is much too respectful of his various chosen gurus (zappa, bailey, boulez, joyce, prynne, debord, tony cliff et al), and never really sets them free to fight one another like cats in a bagge
shamefully i haven't yet read the DB :(
(david toop is somewhat scornful in his own recent history of free improv: eg re the retelling of what the josef holbrooke trio was like, which DT sez sets FAR too much on trust in DB's retelling) (dt also admires DB a very great deal, but is better on the degree to which DB was a cranky old troll)
― mark s, Saturday, 15 July 2017 12:28 (eight years ago)
is better on the degree
^^ôr so i'm guessing, as i haven't actually read it :)
― mark s, Saturday, 15 July 2017 12:29 (eight years ago)
The DB book (I resisted talking about it as I saw it last night as its been years since I read it) is quite good and possily better for some of the grudges he takes to it - although BW might be respectful of DB he doesn't reserve that for a lot of the improv scene in general.
AC&C was great. I wonder how that would be like on a re-read. I just learnt stuff from it and everything.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 July 2017 12:52 (eight years ago)
BW might be respectful of DB he doesn't reserve that for a lot of the improv scene in general
this is bascially toop's problem with it = highly selective uncritical hagiography -- which does in general reflect my own issue w/BW (except where two of his gurus clash, in which instance no real indication of same)
imo this emerges from his personal negotiation of internal SWP politics (given that he was basically very much an oddity and a frustrated outlier in that benighted org)
literal conversation we once had:bw: i wish you'd join! ms: ben i'd be kicked out instantly! bw: we could be kicked out together!
^^i found this exchange at once v flattering and v weird (he quit some years ago and has been its most furious critic ever since)
― mark s, Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:22 (eight years ago)
That's great I could never see you in the SWP.
this is bascially toop's problem with it = highly selective uncritical hagiography
His problems with the likes of AMM and what some other people get up to in that scene...to me I can some kind of method.
Then again I never got on with Zappa.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 July 2017 14:08 (eight years ago)
"Against Nature" was so boring. The main character was so hateful and pretentious.
I'm reading Vonnegut's "Breakfast of champions" now.
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 16:49 (eight years ago)
Darwin's Pharmacy: Sex, Plants, and the Evolution of the Noosphere (In Vivo) by Richard M. Doyle I saw it cheap in an Oxfam so grabbed it. Not really looked at it so far.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:00 (eight years ago)
I have to admit I really enjoyed Against Nature, but your description of the main character is spot-on
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 01:09 (eight years ago)
Do we have a thread about new books with cheapo, bad and blurry offprint inside?
― Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 July 2017 01:19 (eight years ago)
Suppose I could spring for expensive used Turtleback copy. Or post that on $900 Grandmothers thread.
― Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 July 2017 01:30 (eight years ago)
What was it?
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 23 July 2017 08:45 (eight years ago)
Realising that I can't get to the book i want to look up MDMA in because the shelf above it has collapsed and the weight might bring down the bookcase which is in an awkward place to get to. i have a few of this style of bookcase where the sides have bulged out far enough that the shelves have fallen off the little plastic brackets they sit on/ So the shelves are sitting on the top of the contents of teh shelf below.
I need to get it together to get screws into the side of each shelf and hope that will not split them or the sides of the unit.
Maybe need to develop the skills to create units like that from scratch since the walls i have here seem to be plaster so wouldn't support the weight of shelving. Just thought flatpack versions would do the work and can't get it together to customise them.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 23 July 2017 09:14 (eight years ago)
sorry wrong thread,
― Stevolende, Sunday, 23 July 2017 09:15 (eight years ago)
What was it?― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, July 23, 2017 4:45 AM
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, July 23, 2017 4:45 AM
The Voice That Is Great Within Us: American Poetry of the Twentieth Century, edited by Hayden Carruth. It looks like they just photocopied the 1983 edition instead of resetting it. Too bad, because it seems to be a really useful book.
― Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 July 2017 17:00 (eight years ago)
So it is new in the sense of recently manufactured but not really "new."
― Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 July 2017 20:50 (eight years ago)
Euurrgh: what publisher responsible for this atrocity?
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 24 July 2017 05:39 (eight years ago)
Bantam is the imprint. But isn't this sort of thing relatively common?
― Under Heaviside Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 July 2017 11:48 (eight years ago)
Anyway, making my peace with the slightly blurry printing.
― Awaiting On U-Haul: Alfie's Best of Stig O'Hara (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:03 (eight years ago)
Verso's having one of their 90% off all ebook sales for 24 hours
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 28 July 2017 03:05 (eight years ago)
saw that
― Awaiting On U-Haul: Alfie's Best of Stig O'Hara (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 July 2017 03:21 (eight years ago)
What else to get besides Grand Hotel Abyss?
― Awaiting On U-Haul: Alfie's Best of Stig O'Hara (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 July 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)
I've been wanting a bit more variety in my pile of unread non-fiction. Today I loaded up on five non-fic used books, plus one fiction book for good measure. Now I ought to be a bit less bewildered and lethargic when trying to pick an interesting non-fiction book from the pile to caulk the spaces between my novel and short story reading.
A Time of Gifts, Patrick Leigh Fermor, used NYRB trade paperback, $4.Marco Polo: From Venice to Xanadu, Laurence Bergreen, used trade paperback, $1.50.Courtesans and Fishcakes: The Consuming Passions of Ancient Athens, James Davidson, used trade paperback, $1.00.Brunelleschi's Dome, Ross King, used trade paperback, $1.50.The New Kings of Non-Fiction, an anthology, editor Ira Glass, 50 cents.Jazz Age Stories, F. Scott Fitzgerald, used Penguin Modern Classic, $1.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 29 July 2017 23:30 (eight years ago)
Elias Canetti - Auto-da-FeJohn Steinbeck - Tortilla FlatRoberto Bolano - The Third Reich
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 13:47 (eight years ago)
Manhattan Transfer by John dos Passos.I like his writing but never competed his Three Soldiers which I should remedy.& maybe reread USA which I had a fear yesterday I was duplicating part of on buying this..
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 14:36 (eight years ago)
Orlando Figes book on the Crimea in a charity shop this afternoon.I enjoyed his Russian revolution hi8story a couple of years back.I don't know much about the Crimea so thought this might be a good place to find out.
A Walter Mosely omnibus from a different charity shop today too.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 3 August 2017 22:59 (eight years ago)
Cant take figes seriously since he used fake names to leave bad reviews of books by other Russian historians on amazon, and when he was caught out he:1. Blamed his wife2. Admitted it was him, not his wife, but he had been researching Stalin and was traumatised so was not responsible for his actions
C21st UK academic claiming to be a victim of Stalin because he trolled other writers is pretty feeble stuff
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 4 August 2017 00:11 (eight years ago)
I don't think I was aware fo it before you mentioned it. I read A people's Tragedy after having wanted to since nearly everybody on teh Solidarity Camp had read it back in 2006 and I hadn't managed to . Enjoyed it, this Crimea looks like it could be good.
Found a Guardian article on the fracas thoughhttps://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/apr/23/historian-orlando-figes-amazon-reviews-rivals
― Stevolende, Friday, 4 August 2017 08:15 (eight years ago)
gerhardie - futilityableman - i hear voiceswahloo - the lorryplatonov - soul & other storiesbiely - the silver dovefassbinder - plays
― no lime tangier, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 14:42 (eight years ago)
Richard Barnes Mods. Been meaning to get a new copy of this for ages
Grace jones I'll never write my memoirs cos it was cheap in a n ew local record shop
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 15:50 (eight years ago)
Gerhardie: Futility is great. What's that Wahloo? One of his solo books? Doesn't ring any bells
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 17 August 2017 01:01 (eight years ago)
impulse amazon buy:
peter guralnick - last train to memphisernest becker - the denial of deathangela nagle - kill all normies: online culture wars from 4chan and tumblr to trump and the alt-right
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 17 August 2017 13:18 (eight years ago)
xpost: yeah, have been meaning to check out gerhardie for awhile. there were a few of his novels where i found that lot, but thought i'd start with his first (nice to learn it was published c/o katherine mansfield). i guess the polyglots would be the place to go after futility?
the wahloo novel is from the early sixties, based on his time in spain in the previous decade. was actually how i first came across his name via the books listed in the back of the old school picadors
― no lime tangier, Friday, 18 August 2017 04:17 (eight years ago)
That looks cool. Vintage US republished some of his other solo books a few years ago, which were really good, but that one's new to me.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 18 August 2017 08:57 (eight years ago)
Voltaire in Love, Nancy Mitford, used trade paperback in like new condition, $2. Sounds moderately interesting.
The Lost Continent: Travels in Small Town America, Bill Bryson, used paperback, $2. This is copyright 1989 and aimed at a British audience, so it's before Bryson became established. Hard to say how much this one might deviate from his usual formulaic humor. Given its publication date, it probably describes a version of America that's dead as the dodo. I'll save it for when I need something mindless and frothy.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 25 August 2017 00:15 (eight years ago)
I've read that Bryson. It's as you say.
― alimosina, Friday, 25 August 2017 16:39 (eight years ago)
'several short sentences about writing' and calasso's 'art of the publisher' - books about booksssss
― j., Saturday, 2 September 2017 00:44 (eight years ago)
Art of the Publisher was entertaining but I wish it had gone much deeper
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 2 September 2017 04:24 (eight years ago)
i'll throw it away then, thanks
― j., Saturday, 2 September 2017 04:25 (eight years ago)
no problem
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 2 September 2017 04:36 (eight years ago)
AUGUST BOOK HAUL
Karl Schütz - Vermeer: Complete WorksMaurice Merleau-Ponty - Eye and MindE. H. Gombrich - Art and IllusionSvetlana Alpers - The Art of DescribingMadeleine L'Engle - The Glorious Impossible
― jmm, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:31 (eight years ago)