"Brownsville Girl" didn't top Pearl Buck? pish tosh
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 October 2016 14:20 (nine years ago)
That would look great printed on toilet paper
xpost
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 October 2016 14:23 (nine years ago)
If they were going to give it to an American poet why couldn't they give it to Billy Collins? Oh wait.
― LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 14:42 (nine years ago)
lol James, that was perfect <3
― flopson, Thursday, 13 October 2016 15:05 (nine years ago)
so not gonna happen
^^^now in the running
― mark s, Thursday, 13 October 2016 15:09 (nine years ago)
Next time an advertising firm for their slogans. (j/k, I think it's fine that it went to Dylan)
― two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Thursday, 13 October 2016 15:25 (nine years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdsTkqerOw
― LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 15:31 (nine years ago)
And Dario Fo died. A mere coincidence?
― alimosina, Thursday, 13 October 2016 16:53 (nine years ago)
Good point. Better ask The Widow Gray.
― LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:07 (nine years ago)
i like a few bob dylan albums
but a man of letters he is not
thanks nobel prize for firmly cementing your place in some back alley trash bin
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:15 (nine years ago)
cuck
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)
without ideas or violence?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)
http://media3.giphy.com/media/oR5LcCn6pimI/giphy.gif
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:19 (nine years ago)
Don't you tell Henry James.
― LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:21 (nine years ago)
Nobel's got your prize
― LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:26 (nine years ago)
I like Bob Dylan. The Nobel committee made a strong choice imo. I hope they continue to award prizes to people I like.
― Treeship, Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:48 (nine years ago)
Obama shoulda bombed at Budokan― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:43 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:43 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Bob Dylan at Budokan rules btw.
― Treeship, Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:50 (nine years ago)
I'm really excited about this. Bob Dylan deserves it.
Expanding the definition of "literature" is a good thing imo. Dylan certainly writes good words.
― sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:51 (nine years ago)
otm. The idea that "real" poetry is something written rather than performed is super ahistorical as well.
― Treeship, Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:53 (nine years ago)
Otm. Just ask Homer and Jethro.
― LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:54 (nine years ago)
if people can't see the many parallels of homer and mr zimmerman humanity really has no chance
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 13 October 2016 17:56 (nine years ago)
books get little enough exposure as it is without giving this award to dylanI don't think "serious literature" or any of the possible nominees are in need of pity
entire idea of lyrics as poetry or literature is a fallacybelieve it's the other way around
anyway, I'm sure Bob is cheered up by this and it's the most popular Nobel prize in my time which is great - some people are complaining that next year it might as well be Stephen King, but that would be a great thing! pretentious modernist aesthetics are way done
― niels, Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:08 (nine years ago)
The Homer comparison obviously isn't meant to elevate Dylan. The point is that sung poetry and poetry with musical accompaniment are way older than written poetry, and it's only a narrow definition of literature that would exclude the traditions of oral narrative poetry. So why exclude songwriters?
― jmm, Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:17 (nine years ago)
I suspect a certain gaggle of self-important Swedes would never see him as a worthy recipient
well cover me with icing and call me a cake, he won!
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:19 (nine years ago)
I'm sure Bob is cheered up by this and it's the most popular Nobel prize in my time which is great
Pinteresque silence.
― (SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:42 (nine years ago)
weird to think the swedish academy thinks america's best writer is someone who dedicated his life to writing limerick-like verses with alternating rhyme schemes purely for music
sounds like exoticization of american culture
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:03 (nine years ago)
Stephen King is a better writer than Bob Dylan and would have been a better choice
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:06 (nine years ago)
he hasn't got as great tunes, though
― niels, Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:11 (nine years ago)
http://static.oprah.com/images/obc/201004/slideshow/20100414-rock-bottom-remainders-stephen-king-band-600x411.jpg
― Har-@-Iago (wins), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:13 (nine years ago)
hmm will have to look into that
― niels, Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:14 (nine years ago)
Rock Bottom Remainders, right?
― LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:15 (nine years ago)
so what you're saying is woody allen might be inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame afterall
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:20 (nine years ago)
i don't care who wins any award but the idea that lyrics can't be "real" poetry or literature is some reactionary nonsense
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:26 (nine years ago)
stephen king is actually a really bad writer. i checked and everything.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:29 (nine years ago)
mark e smith should get it next btw
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:30 (nine years ago)
craziest thing ever said on this website?
― a (waterface), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:38 (nine years ago)
he may have better penmanship
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:39 (nine years ago)
"He’s the heir, the unlikely offspring of Arthur Rimbaud and Walt Whitman. But he’s neither Rimbaud nor Whitman. He’s Bob Dylan. Is he a poet or a songwriter? The same answer applies: He’s Bob Dylan. I find myself falling back (again!) on Emily Dickinson’s remark: “If I feel physically as if the top of my head were taken off, I know that is poetry.” Dylan’s songs can make us feel that pleasurable shock of being partially decapitated by beauty."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/books/review/bob-dylan-musician-or-poet.html?_r=0
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:47 (nine years ago)
I tried to make sense of it: http://www.mtv.com/news/2943039/bob-dylan-deserves-that-nobel-prize/?curator=MusicREDEF
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:47 (nine years ago)
basically, he inspires people as much as - or more than - great poetry does and in similar ways. cuzza the poetic nature of his lyrics. he really is massive world-wide too. you can't really underestimate the effect he had on the world. even if you hate him.
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:50 (nine years ago)
has lex heard any of bob dylan's literature yet
― mookieproof, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:02 (nine years ago)
I will admit dylan is a better writer than stephen king. Of course, so is my dog's vomit.
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:28 (nine years ago)
yeah: https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2012/sep/13/bob-dylan-tempest-lyrics xp
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:29 (nine years ago)
A he was given such a mediocre record for review
― niels, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:33 (nine years ago)
This idea that giving the prize to a bad beat poet modeling himself on Rimbaud and Whitman is somehow fresh because modernism is dead is insane. Yeah, Joyce was nearly hundreds of years ago, but Dylan's lyrics are still some oldfashioned/reactionary bullshit.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:33 (nine years ago)
Well, not 'hundreds', but...
xp A shame he was***
― niels, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:34 (nine years ago)
reactionary?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:34 (nine years ago)
or old fashioned?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:36 (nine years ago)
He probably is a fascist tho'.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2016 20:37 (nine years ago)