my hero:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/aug/21/jonathan-franzen-considered-adopting-iraqi-orphan-young-people
― scott seward, Friday, 21 August 2015 18:02 (ten years ago)
didn't think my hatred for this middlebrow bas' could grow any further.
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 21 August 2015 18:56 (ten years ago)
Franzen getting sonned on twitter is not exactly a rare occurrence but I still love this:
But he insisted: “I’m not a sexist. I am not somebody who goes around saying men are superior, or that male writers are superior. In fact, I really go out of my way to champion women’s work that I think is not getting enough attention. None of that is ever enough. Because a villain is needed. It’s like there’s no way to make myself not male.”Speaking about a character in his forthcoming novel, Purity – a fanatical feminist who, among other things, forces her husband to urinate sitting down on the toilet to atone for his maleness – Franzen predicted that she would enrage his critics; in fact, she already has. “After all these years we finally get to read a man’s take on feminism,” tweeted the Canadian writer Anne Thériault. “Bless you and the hard work you do, Mr Franzen.”
Speaking about a character in his forthcoming novel, Purity – a fanatical feminist who, among other things, forces her husband to urinate sitting down on the toilet to atone for his maleness – Franzen predicted that she would enrage his critics; in fact, she already has. “After all these years we finally get to read a man’s take on feminism,” tweeted the Canadian writer Anne Thériault. “Bless you and the hard work you do, Mr Franzen.”
― one way street, Friday, 21 August 2015 21:18 (ten years ago)
i urinate sitting down on the toilet at night so as not to make too much noise because of an ilx post by roxymuzak
― flopson, Friday, 21 August 2015 22:56 (ten years ago)
that known man-hater, roxymuzak.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:23 (ten years ago)
i don't think he was meaning that, although i may be wrong.
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:25 (ten years ago)
oh no, i'm very keen on roxy, it was not a slight on her or flopson, i was just being silly.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:27 (ten years ago)
apologies.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:30 (ten years ago)
michiko likes it - http://nyti.ms/1KI5cww
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:47 (ten years ago)
Just glanced at Grantland takedown somebody posted on FB that seems pretty otm
― Exile's Return To Sender (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 23:06 (ten years ago)
I liked his short story in the summer fiction issue
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:15 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
didnt realize this was an excerpt, it worked stand alone 4 me
― johnny crunch, Friday, 4 September 2015 23:28 (ten years ago)
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-franzen-of-it-all-purity-and-the-great-american-novelist/
i have broken my vow to never learn the plot of jonathan franzen's 'purity', i guess
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 5 September 2015 05:45 (ten years ago)
cant you read ferrante instead i miss talking to you about books
― dead (Lamp), Saturday, 5 September 2015 06:02 (ten years ago)
i saw someone at the bistro i had lunch at with this book on her table, she didnt pick it up once during her meal, preferring the company of her phone
tbf i'm not actually gonna read this
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 5 September 2015 06:58 (ten years ago)
tbf she was probably making the right choice
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 5 September 2015 06:59 (ten years ago)
anyway i am reading nell zink and that's already too close to franzen
http://i.minus.com/jbzHff8gxenJou.jpg
― abcfsk, Saturday, 5 September 2015 08:26 (ten years ago)
i saw someone at the bistro i had lunch at with this book on her table, she didnt pick it up once during her meal, preferring the company of her phone― dead (Lamp), Saturday, September 5, 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dead (Lamp), Saturday, September 5, 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
#winningAtLife
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 September 2015 09:17 (ten years ago)
Now imagining Franzen sitting right behind her and fuming.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 September 2015 09:23 (ten years ago)
I loved that Grantland piece.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 September 2015 11:18 (ten years ago)
yeah, it's kinda beautiful!
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 September 2015 15:52 (ten years ago)
I'm on vacation in Sanibel this weekend, and visiting the local bookstore I saw a copy of Purity. I held it up and said to the cashier, "You're gonna sell a lot of these."
She nodded. "Unfortunately."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 September 2015 17:01 (ten years ago)
ha!
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 September 2015 17:37 (ten years ago)
my grandparents used to have a house there. on that island. in the olden days. it was nice.
guys, im hearing you all want to do a purity read-along
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 5 September 2015 22:55 (ten years ago)
purity laugh-along more like
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 September 2015 22:56 (ten years ago)
Purity of essence
― Bon Iver Meets G.I. Joe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 5 September 2015 23:05 (ten years ago)
a copy of 'purity' a new novel by johnny franzen was sitting on my dining room table when i got home last night. i'm still not sure how it got there...
― dead (Lamp), Monday, 7 September 2015 01:54 (ten years ago)
I'm 40 pages in, enjoying the writing more than the story
― calstars, Monday, 7 September 2015 01:56 (ten years ago)
you should leave it on a table at your local starbucks coffee franchise or one of its independent competitors
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 7 September 2015 02:37 (ten years ago)
what a hateful thing to say
― dead (Lamp), Monday, 7 September 2015 03:21 (ten years ago)
"“Maybe being male is like being born a predator, and maybe the only right thing for the predator to do, if it sympathizes with smaller animals and won’t accept that it was born to kill them, is to betray its nature and starve to death”
― calstars, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 00:30 (ten years ago)
“I have often wondered what the prey is feeling when it is captured. Often it seems to become completely still in the predator’s jaws, as if it feels no pain. As if nature, at the very end, shows mercy for it.”
― calstars, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 00:33 (ten years ago)
oh franzenpaws
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 00:47 (ten years ago)
― Bon Iver Meets G.I. Joe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 01:53 (ten years ago)
there are a couple-few articles on the internet presenting being pro-franzen as a contrarian position and they make me sad and disheartened
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:05 (ten years ago)
beautiful http://review.gawker.com/jonathan-franzens-purity-is-an-irrelevant-piece-of-shit-1729287392
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:09 (ten years ago)
judging by this thread, being pro-franzen probably is a contrarian position at this point
― Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:27 (ten years ago)
there are abt 8thousand more worthy targets for all the shit he gets but whatever
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:33 (ten years ago)
its essentially become a meme for ppl who mostly have never read anything hes written except perhaps excerpts im guessing
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:34 (ten years ago)
thats true up to a point (certainly the more worthy targets part)
i have read the corrections, i recall thinking it was ok at the time (this was like 2009 iirc, i was still in college), i tried freedom and was like "nahdawg" within a chapter or so, then i started noticing the things he was saying out loud
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:49 (ten years ago)
"Often it seems to become completely still in the predator’s jaws, as if it feels no pain. As if nature, at the very end, shows mercy for it.”
Franzen seems utterly captivated by his own ignorant musings. Predators are attracted by motion and many prey animals remain motionless when afraid. What he is describing is commonly called "petrified by fear".
― Aimless, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 17:57 (ten years ago)
halfway through this, feel compelled to read one of his novels so i can credibly criticize him. the scene where pip throws herself to her knees before Stephen and takes her sweater and bra off and practically begs him to fuck her was so appalling & hilarious. just got to the section with the evil feminist caricature. can't wait to be done
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:43 (ten years ago)
I really don't get the vitriol
― calstars, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:10 (ten years ago)
xp you're allowed to stop reading
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 19:11 (ten years ago)
I have not read the book but to me it sounds like Calvinism or Buddhism, to give it an -ism.
― youn, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 23:18 (ten years ago)
this is fairly accurate for me, i have to admit. i haven't read any of his books, but i have read several non-fiction pieces by him, and they were witless and dour and unfunny, which is what put me off
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 September 2015 00:48 (ten years ago)
and in interviews he seems to be a dickhead too
― johnny crunch,
Name them.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 September 2015 01:02 (ten years ago)