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Malzberg clip is indeed part of the Campbell doc, which has no distribution channel as of yet, from what I read on the YouTube posting.

As might be expected, love that Moorcock calls him out on his fascism/racism

If only they could have gotten Delany to do the same.

Actually he did

Although I think in the full film Moorcock calls Campbell out on something else he was against- editing.

Lol

Thanks for the Sheckley info !!

Last night I finished reading THE SELECTED STORIES OF PHILIP K. DICK. 21 stories in 466 pages. I wonder how far this collection coves the crucial stories, and how many other really important ones I've still to read (he wrote 100 others).

*covers

Don't forget the other in-print Sheckley collection, The Masque of Mañana, which has the AAA Ace Interplanetary Decontamination Service stories, among many others.

Which I mentioned twice already on this thread, sorry, maybe third time is the charm.

I would have thought that Malzberg list video was like a bonus feature video than part of the main documentary.

I saw Delany quote some homophobic thing that Poul Anderson said. I think it was a homosexual SF writers panel put on youtube.

Just found out today that former Steeleye Span members Johnson and Knight did an album about Dunsany's King Of Elfland's Daughter.

I am curious about this new New Worlds e-zine but what is their relationship to Moorcock? He doesn't seem to be involved, did he just give them permission to use his name?

I assumed he was editing it. I'm not that familiar with SF, but on first glance it looked like it was all writers from the heyday of New Worlds, so I wondered if it was still supposed to be intended as boundary pushing. But looking at it again maybe it does have more New writers. Not to say that old writers can't be innovative.

http://stem-works.com/system/sw_heros/15/original/Deep%20Space.jpg?1334673772

I am curious about this new New Worlds e-zine but what is their relationship to Moorcock? He doesn't seem to be involved, did he just give them permission to use his name?

And, is there anything on it more recent than one year ago?

yeah it looks dead

Killed by the shade of John W. Campbell, Jr.

I was just led to this cool artist via Clute's Twitter link to his updated (death-dated) SFE bio:http://ow.ly/wMD4K He did a lot, incl. wine-fine pulp covers, original books, album covers; here's one of my faves so far (must read more Vance)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/-FIacwF8NBcw/TmVYOam5YiI/AAAAAAAALqg/rqZ8KyD9Yec/Gray%252520Prince_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800

http://patrickwoodroffe-world.com/

Check out his site. I've been familiar with him for some time, he is similar to Hannes Bok but I had no idea he was the guy who did a lot of the Greenslade art and Judas Priest - Sad Wings Of Destiny!

have always loved the shit out of that vance cover. That's the edition I have.

Holy crap he did Mythopoeikon! I used to stare at that book on the shelf when I was 8 or 9 and want it so goddamn bad, second only to Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials! My parents got me Barlowe's eventually but never Mythopoeikon and I kind of completely forgot about it until looking at that website!

Anyone else reading 'Authority'?

Not me. But that series seems to be popular around here.

Amazing paintings on Woodroffe's site: so far, I'm hung-up on thee triptychs. Here's another drugstore paperback cover mentioned in the SFE entry:
http://www.alice-dsl.net/aymar/Reviews/Reviews_Robert%20Heinlein/Robert%20A%20Heinlein_The%20Best%20of%20Robert%20Heinlein_SPHERE_Patrick%20Woodroffe.jpg

A little sedate by comparison, but still.

Always got the detail!

He shares some ornamental DNA with Jim Woodring, clearly. Look at some of his images of temples, and in that cover dow just posted, that polka dotted tentacle-root thingy is hella Jim.

Reading the second Jeff Vandermeer Southern reach book -- promising stuff

I love Platypus Of Doom. The novella titles are great: "The Platypus of Doom", "The Armadillo of Destruction", "The Aardvark of Despair", "The Clam of Catastrophe"

Bizarrely, about a year or two ago I couldn't even find complete Orion/Gollancz Masterworks lists, I found it shocking that the publishers didn't have an easy to find list; but now there are seemingly comprehensive lists...

https://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_sf_masterworks.asp
https://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_fantasy_masterworks.asp

I wonder why there is so many times more SF Masterworks than Fantasy? The priorities of the company or the difficulty of finding enough fantasy books that people could agree on? It seems the fantasy series only resumed recently after years of no new titles.

A lot of these are way out of print.

Margery Allingham's Albert Campion sometimes got lured into the fantastic/sf; would like to check the pre-Internet ESP kiddie-hive of The Mind Readers, maybe others mentioned here:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/allingham_margery
Also, turns out Henry Kuttner def wrote some of the f/sf-ier of Leslie Charteris's Saint stories, (LC was upfront about his fiction factory), and may have written more:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/charteris_leslie

Was idly wondering last night - what is the earliest appearance in literature of the concept of time travel? Couldnt decide if things like A Christmas Carol qualify.

Just read Will McIntosh: Defenders -- humanity genetically engineers gigantic warrior drone creatures to help them win against an alien invasion, then has no idea what to do with all these intelligent, agressive monsters afterwards: things go to hell. Not bad, not great--would have enjoyed it more if McIntosh had written more about the things he obviously didn't give a shit about, ie the actual mechanics of making these things, as opposed only to their effects on the world, though I'm criticisng him for not doing something he expressly set out to not do

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel_in_fiction
Looks like someone could have a hell of a reading project.

In Walter Map's 12th century De nugis curialium ("Courtiers' Trifles"), Map tells of the Briton King Herla, who is transported with his hunting party over two centuries into the future by the enchantment of a mysterious harlequin.

Golf in the Year 2000 (1892), by J. McCullough, tells the story of an Englishman who fell asleep in 1892 and awakened in the year 2000. The focus of the book is how the game of golf would have changed by then, but (...)

wow @ Talmud entry

De Nugis Curialium shockingly overlooked by a certain someone as an album title

Good leads here: http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/time_travel

And lots more here, come to think of it ( should check SFE's ghost twin FE more often)
http://sf-encyclopedia.co.uk/fe.php?nm=time_travel

Just finished "The Door into Summer" by Heinlein - the 1950's were kinda innocent weren't they?

Intrigued by most enthusiastic references to "Burdekin's Swastika Night" on xpost John Clute's Twitter feed (which incl. Cory Doctorow), I looked it up on SFE, and waou: how have I not heard of Kay Burdekin/Murry Constantine: http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/burdekin_katharine

Swastika Night is pretty amazing (and prescient, too)

Would anyone terribly mind if I made a new version of this thread in the ILE section? Whenever we had similar threads there, way more people contributed because most people seem to ignore everything but the music and everything sections (nobody makes film threads in the film section anymore).

How about Rolling fantasy, science fiction, speculative, horror, magic realism, fabulation etc. thread?

finished Brunner's "The Jagged Orbit" and am now out of things to read BAH. Pretty good, standard peak-period Brunner, kinda better with the general ideas/concepts and po-mo tricks than with characterizations. Really goes to town with the race-related paranoia of '68; if anyone wanted to know how terrified people were in the U.S. of a major race war at that time this would be a good book to point them to.

shakes what is your #1 brunner for a noob to start with?

I would say "Shockwave Rider", and then "The Sheep Look Up". "Stand On Zanzibar" was the big award-winner but I didn't really love it. But the first 75 pages or so of "Shockwave Rider" are a real tour de force.

Think I'm gonna stick with this thread, for the most part,; there are several related ones on ILE, but this one has the best mix of books and comments (ILE tends to go more to extremes of the latter)

ILE overall, that is, despite some good threads.

And if somebody doesn't care enough about books to check ILB, so be it (good filter)

Fair enough, but several people who are totally into this stuff never come around here.

Really wish it was possible for all threads to be put into the correct section. Strange that moderators can't fix that.

I haven't had much to actually say about these books because I buy 50 books for every one I actually read and find it difficult to resist.

i like the focus of this thread. on ile it would turn into something else. people talking about burritos or whatever.

The new Gollancz fantasy masterworks books look really nice, I bought a few a couple of days ago (Avram Davidson's Phoenix & Mirror and Lucius Shepard's Dragon Griaule), new releases include Holdstock's Mythago Wood and Randall Garrett's Lord Darcy.

I really dislike the bright yellow they use for the SF classics.