ASTB
Just re-read the thread, and the others on FOB and STB
Im assuming the f. mcewe post was pinefox. genius.
― mundane peaceable username (darraghmac), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link
Man, I don't even think I have a copy of ASTB anymore
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link
I left my copy open and they all got out
― mundane peaceable username (darraghmac), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
:D
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 22 July 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
at swim two big bottomed birds all over the newsie wewsies
― nakhchivan, Sunday, October 9, 2011 5:46 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 22 July 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
Today of all days
― mundane peaceable username (darraghmac), Monday, 22 July 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
ever read this book, darragh? its quite flann-esque
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/SombreroFallout.jpg
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Monday, 22 July 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
no but more than happy with recs ta
― mundane peaceable username (darraghmac), Monday, 22 July 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
The most unexpected book to remind me of the 3rd policeman was the cyberiad by lem. Could they have been aware of each other?
― brodie positivity!! (wins), Monday, 22 July 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
I'm only about 20 pgs into ASTB, but is the wordiness (in the "always use a big word when a smaller one would do" sense) supposed to be a parody of how a wise-ass college student would write?― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:47 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Amongst other things, yeah. Also a certain Irish addiction to gigantism (also mocked in the "Cyclops" chapter of Ulysses) akin to the "everything's big in Texas" mentality. And folk tale exaggeration in general.― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:17 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
reading again, astb and thread, and I came to note that Finns opening maundering on music that is good to ear is surely a play at Austin Clarke, and while reading the above I was p struck (nagging at me as it was anyway, having just read it) that the gigantism, the repetitions of metaphor/comparison points in the first Finn section are very likely direct plays at the similarly bounded earthiness of the source material
― is this empty sanitism (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link
sorry phone swallowed that post...
anyway reading what ppl, especially Ronan, disliked about astb up thread, idk might it make a difference in reading it to consider the breadth and deftness and adaptability in aping so well all of these Irish literary styles that seems, to me anyway, to be happening here. I'm sure there's more I missing besides, perhaps woof or pf or someone could suggest a full list of the lampooned in the work.
― is this empty sanitism (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link
Has anyone read this? http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/cr%C3%A9-na-cille-%C3%B3-cadhain-s-squabbling-corpses-revived-in-english-1.2154852
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 September 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link
i don't read novels in dialect
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 19 September 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link
I read 'em with my bowl of Froot Loops and cold milk.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 September 2015 09:30 (eight years ago) link
good day for authors named flann something on ILB
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 20 September 2015 09:46 (eight years ago) link
have never heard of that, but looks interesting... shades of dostoyevsky's bobok
― no lime tangier, Sunday, 20 September 2015 11:57 (eight years ago) link
bought this recently
http://www.dalkeyarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/15647100441380L.jpg
― the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Sunday, 20 September 2015 12:12 (eight years ago) link
That is definitely in the right spirit
― The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 September 2015 12:20 (eight years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GzumJh2kL.jpg
― mick signals, Sunday, 20 September 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link
i'm 60 pages into the third policeman and somewhat drunk. flann o'brien is the holy grail
― imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link
An excellent primer for astb but I maintain my position above, you need to read a bit of Sean O'Casey et al first
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
Kind of an ideal state of being imago has going there, tbh
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
all noted
― imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link
https://i2.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/coconut-flan1.jpg?fit=1200%2C750
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/d/d1/1984burton.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131102231148
― alimosina, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
this shit is acatalectica-c-a-t-a-l-e-c-t-i-c
― imago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link
It's catholic fyi
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
It wasn't Catholic enough. He became afraid of it.
― alimosina, Monday, 30 October 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
OK I got to the guessing-names bit that Father Ted obviously ripped off and was dissolved in laughter on the tube. I wonder how much of Father Ted is just reconsidered O'Brien...
― imago, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
Great holy suffering indiarubber bowls of brown stirabout!
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
Music tie-in here.
― alimosina, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
I think it's more likely the novel steals from Ted tbh
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Friday, 3 November 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
well was a rug ever pulled
― imago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Have read ten pages of ASTB and it is obviously some kind of personal grail
the list of birds alone has me forever
― imago, Sunday, 13 May 2018 09:16 (six years ago) link
well, yes
― gneb farts (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2018 09:46 (six years ago) link
the maritime wren!
― imago, Sunday, 13 May 2018 09:50 (six years ago) link
read, my child, and learn of the marvels it contains
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 13 May 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link
FOB seems to specialise in these extended bravura sequences where all literature else is cast into a pyre. in 3P it was the underground chamber and i'll be beggared if the cress-green cress of the full seventh of that book's length that is the confusion of the tellings of finn, shanahan and lamont doesn't figure somewhere in the reckoning of which is ASTB's. unless somehow it has greater in store
― imago, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
I don't exactly understand that comment. Can you explain further?
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 09:52 (five years ago) link
I recommend THE COLLECTED LETTERS OF FLANN O'BRIEN, though not as a way of preserving any mystique.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 09:53 (five years ago) link
Myles na gCopaleen’s collected columns are the best, but I read The Third Policeman a while back and it was honestly one of the strangest things I’ve ever read. I need to read it again.
― gyac, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:16 (five years ago) link
By that I meant that pages 58 through 91 of ASTB make for a truly astonishing passage. I was speculating as to whether the book will have greater in store for me during the remaining course of its pages, of which I have now read 104.
― imago, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:24 (five years ago) link
Are you deliberately taking years to read this novel?
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:28 (five years ago) link
Savouring every syllable.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:28 (five years ago) link
third policeman might be the most terrifying book i've ever read
― devvvine, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:32 (five years ago) link
obvs a masterpiece, as is astb
― devvvine, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:33 (five years ago) link
Page 104 has heralded the beginning of a section concerning a Pooka and a Good Fairy that is threatening to drown all that precedes or follows it in mirthful frenzies
― imago, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:36 (five years ago) link
love the running articles towards the start of 'the best of myles' collection, which begin with him proposing a business where he roughs up rich peoples books, so that people think they've been read, and gets more absurd each week until dublin society is being terrroized by social blackmailers
― devvvine, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:42 (five years ago) link
Ordered this just now cuz of this thread (Penguin Classics ed.)
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link
The Myles stuff is incredible! I started re-reading his stuff last week, he was my favourite author for a period
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link
If you chance to read The Dalkey Archive you will see large parts of 3rd Policeman, slightly mutated and used slightly differently.
I love the novels but never quite got into the Myles material, especially the bits not written in English.
One time I was reading At Swim-Two-Birds on the subway and an old man next to me asked me what I was reading. I mutely showed him, and he said "ah, that's a foine book. I also recommend the Dalkey Archive."
I looked over at what he was reading. It was Hamlet.
Only later did I realize that I should have said "That's a good one too. I also recommend Romeo and Juliet." What's Irish for l'esprit de l'escalier?
― moist owlette (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link