Words! Words! Words!: Autumn 2012 'What do you read, my lord?' thread

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Late Coetzee >> Early Coetzee imo

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

gonna read Summertime soon, we'll see

nostormo, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

I finished The Yiddish Policemen's Union, really enjoyed it. Sure, it kind of dissipated in the very end, but the setting, prose, and classic noir beats were pretty dope.

Might stay on the Jewish tip and read The Instructions on a friend's recommendation (he was the first one to actually read the copy that's been getting passed around here).

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

I'm closing in on the finish of YPU right now, funnily enough. I initially eyerolled my way through the hamfisted tropes - That's right, tough guy, your ex-wife is now your boss! - but eventually I realized that's really all a part of the fun. It is very entertaining.

HOLY MOPEDS (R Baez), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:16 (thirteen years ago)

The Instructions is good

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

I'm inserting another book between the first and second Jefferson administrations, Assembling California, John MacPhee.

It's a re-read, but the subject matter is timely for me, because my wife and I are fairly deep into figuring out how to prepare for a 9.0 or greater earthquake that is certain to hit the PNW eventually. The perodicity for these big quakes averages about 300 years and the last one was 312 years ago, in 1700 AD; this has been verified through Japanese records of tsunamis, coupled with local evidence on the Oregon and Washington coasts. We figure it makes sense to have a plan for this, even if there's a perfectly good chance it won't happen for another 100 years.

Anyway, the book is great, although MacPhee has a fondness for the more abstruse geologoical jargon, and the book could use a few more diagrams. It is something of a grand summation of where plate tectonics theory and evidence stood, circa 1990. If you can stand some techno-jargon, it is a good book indeed for understanding this stuff.

Aimless, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:47 (thirteen years ago)

aimless: are you planning to go on to adams's madison books after TJ?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 06:25 (thirteen years ago)

I own a copy of the Madison admin histories; eventually I expect to read them, too.

Aimless, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

man I really enjoyed Galactic Pot Healer.

in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 06:46 (thirteen years ago)

The complete short stories of JG Ballard volume 2

paolo, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 09:05 (thirteen years ago)

Dirty Snow - Simenon. His best novel for sure.

nostormo, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

Shining at the Bottom of the Sea - Stephen Marche

Wholly impressive, often entertaining.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 6 December 2012 05:27 (thirteen years ago)

On the Simenon tip has anyone read Pedigree? Been curious about it

JoeStork, Thursday, 6 December 2012 05:39 (thirteen years ago)

Thoroughly enjoyed Salvage the Bones. Ward's description of place and landscape is pretty pretty stunning.

Am meant to read the Colson Whitehead zombie novel for next week but fuck that. Started The Third Policeman this morning.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 6 December 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)

The Third Policeman is awesome.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

The cure for every ailment is a dose of Wodehouse, I've learned.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

^^^^so fuckin OTM

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

srsly – I had to stop myself from reading Jeeves and the Feudal Spirit in one sitting.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

got through most of on the eve yesterday on the plane - it's riveting, and contains some of the same flourishes that enderared me to turgenev with first love. bersenyev's quiet despair recalls petrovich's, too; articulating the torture of being "friend-zoned" seems to be one of turgenev's stronger talents. (i've still got 40 pages or so, so no spoilers - elena has just told her parents about the marriage.)

i do think i am sort of souring on constance garnett, the translator, though. it's hard to tell of course, being a non-native reader, but the prose can seem a little awkward at times, almost like it's clear i'm reading a translation. maybe it's just my mind playing tricks on me, because i KNOW it's a translation. idk

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

k3v, thanks for reminding me that I need to reread "First Love" today.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

you most certainly must

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

Turgenev is the least read of the Major Russians, right? On the Eve is such a perfect, lapidary thing .

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

he's more of a minor with Bulgakov, Goncharov, right? I wouldn't call him a major

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

probably read more than Gogol, though, right?

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

I've seen more writers cite "The Overcoat" in the last few years than, say, F&S.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

you know what's fun? Googling any kind of syllabus

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

sounds like a good class: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/slavic/syllabi/G6204.pdf

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

turgenev was certainly a major at the time and deserves to remain one; i think what's up is the contemporary idea of Big Fat Important Russian Novels is baffled at the sight of fathers and sons

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

and yeah kev constance garnett is p tortured a lot of the time. i can't knowledgeably recc a turgenev translation tho.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

i revived the dostoevsky thread that only i post in the other day but i just finished rereading demons which is prob my favorite dusty; it is hilarious and upsetting and its narration has all these weird structural inconsistencies a polite word for which is "polyphonic", which i've discovered i really enjoy (i also like when ishmael disappears halfway through moby-dick)

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

totally!

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

i mean ishmael disappearing

beef richards (Mr. Que), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

James unfortunately did a lot to create the false Tolstoy/Dostoevksy vs Turgenev binary, although it's true Turgenev (mostly) had no interest in sprawl.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

i've never read turgenev, but i kind of blame pevear and volokhonsky for not translating him.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

let's start an email campaign

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

On The Eve as an Oprah book

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

there's a mean parody of turgenev in demons actually, right down to his (apparently) irritating habit of kissing you on the cheek. he arranges a choreographed dance for a party wherein each of the four dancers represents something like "the mainstream russian press" or "western thought" and everyone hates it.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

lol I remember that, he also delivered this amazingly ridiculous prose-poem speech, didn't he? Demons is def my second-favorite of the Big Four Dusty novels (after greatest-nove-ever-written C&P)

send Lawyers (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

not sure what it says about me that while reading this passage

'Then leave me! You see, Elena, when I was taken ill, I did not lose
consciousness at first; I knew I was on the edge of the abyss;
even in the fever, in delirium I knew, I felt vaguely that it was
death coming to me, I took leave of life, of you, of everything; I
gave up hope. . . . And this return to life so suddenly; this light
after the darkness, you--you--near me, with me--your voice, your
breath. . . . It's more than I can stand! I feel I love you
passionately, I hear you call yourself mine, I cannot answer for
myself. . . You must go!'

my first thought was buffy

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

xp yeah it's his Last Work (the narrator is skeptical) and called lol merci, and it's totally incoherent and has all these visions of early roman kings and mermaids whistling chopin, and goes way over the ideal length for a public reading (twenty minutes says the narrator). someone yells "you never saw any ancus marcius! that's all just style!"

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

Style baby! Dylan's still swinging with those early Roman kings (and mermaids whistling Chopin)

dow, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)

alfred, since you won't answer me on twitter: is juan cole's book the best on thurgood marshall's jurisprudence? or is there another you'd recommend?

k3vin k., Friday, 7 December 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)

btw man, the last few chapters of on the eve are chock full of the kind of literary flourishes that make me weak. for an ending i guessed a hundered pages prior, pretty well-done

k3vin k., Friday, 7 December 2012 04:57 (thirteen years ago)

hundred*

k3vin k., Friday, 7 December 2012 05:02 (thirteen years ago)

Bourdieu's Secret Admirer in the Caucasus: A World-System Biography by Georgi M Derluguian, as recommended to me by ogmor a while ago

The enfant terrible of Chechen resistance arrived dressed in a bizarre uniform
(decorated with what he claimed were the insignia of Gengis Khan), a black military
beret reminiscent of Saddam, the checkered Arab qufiya kerchief around his
neck, and with his face mostly obscured by a huge pair of sunglasses. Raduyev had
a good reason to hide his face; it had been badly scarred by a bullet. Rumor had it
that after suffering his head wound, Raduyev went mad, or at least developed an
addiction to painkillers; but to many people his actions before being shot in the
face did not look entirely rational either.

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 7 December 2012 05:15 (thirteen years ago)

Gentlemen Of The Road by Michael Chabon - On a Chabon kick, I guess. Not a full meal, but a fun lark w/ really neat sentences.

"...preserved from drowning only by gentlemen of the road fated someday to be hanged."

Yeah, that's the stuff.

HOLY MOPEDS (R Baez), Sunday, 9 December 2012 02:57 (thirteen years ago)

xp

Also, I suspect some Long Ships influence, which is just super.

Found an recording of Chabon reading - always pleased to hear how enthusiastically dorky his voice is.

HOLY MOPEDS (R Baez), Sunday, 9 December 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)

alfred, since you won't answer me on twitter:

wait what -- realy?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 December 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)

https://mobile.twitter.com/radiokeller/status/273637228494868480

:(

k3vin k., Sunday, 9 December 2012 04:03 (thirteen years ago)

new-ish poetry: bought, after many months of trepidation, Troy, Unincorporated by Francesca Abbate—an amusing (post)modern retelling of Troilus & Criseyde in a crummy midwestern town. found much to love on a first reading, copied some dozen (mostly short) quotations into my lil pocket notebook... need to mull it over a bit more but all in all, I'm satisfied

you don't know james blunt's "you're beautiful" (bernard snowy), Monday, 10 December 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)


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