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The Rucker reading (from his autobio) and interview are pleasant, but don't get me tripping like his fiction or that Forced Exposure interview. Several interviews are linked from Rucker's site, don't think that's one of 'em (hopefully available somewhere short of eBay, or maybe at your local thrift store).

dow, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

Heading out, no time to read this Robert Guffney story now with excellent illustrations by Rucker--mostly photos, but also this painting
c 2010 by Rudy Rucker
http://www.flurb.net/9/57_theabduction.jpg

dow, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

oops here's the link for the text x pix
http://www.flurb.net/9/9guffey.htm

dow, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

Oh oh, still haven't read the Guffey yarn, partly cos been away from Computerland (yes, this can still happen, depending on the mission), but also I have to make myself post about (brace yourself for this title) Down These Strange Streets All-New Stories of Urban Fantasy edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois.
Yeah noir meets vampires and friends, with familiar elements, incl many relatvely happy endings, but the authors and characters mostly earn 'em, after much trouble 'n' strife. A number of page-long resumes, most of these ghost-toasy overacheivers are still capable of fresh touches. Charlaine Harris is a notable exception, and considering this coarefully perused blah turn and some other which haven't rewarded lazy skims, seems like True Blood's worthy if strenuous Seasons 1 & 2 (need a nap before checking 3) are the result of rocket fuel transfusions via Alan Ball's team (you think?)
My faves are the few that screw with the tendency of genre fiction to explain every damn thing, no matter how ingeniously and overall impressively. These would be the well-named "The Difference Between a Puzzle and a Mystery," by the relatively new and less pattern-bound M.L.N. Hanover, and, to an extent--making me fugure out some stuff--"The Curious Affair of the Deodand," by Lisa Tuttle, Martin's collaborator on Windhaven, which should be worth checking (wish he'd enlist her for some Game Of Thrones screenplays). She's done a lot of other stuff too. Diana Gabaldon's "Lord John and the Plague of Zombies" may turn me into a series junkie yet--lives up to its title and then some, yet w balance of realness--mental/emotional realness of its characters, enough to care about 'em. A common denominator in this collection.
Big but not over-extended finale" "The Avakian Eagle," co-starring 50-year-old Corporal Dashiell Hammett, tubercular, chainsmoking editor of base paper in the Aleutians, ca. WWII. Speaking of overachievers, he's just a bit of a deus ex machina,but by dam. Once again, earners keepers. By Bradley Denton, author of Buddy Holly Is Alive and Well on Ganymede, think that's the title. Around this pile or the other, I better read it too.

dow, Monday, 14 May 2012 00:53 (fourteen years ago)

Hammett was indeed a 50 year-old etc

dow, Monday, 14 May 2012 00:55 (fourteen years ago)

"The Adakian Eagle," sorry.

dow, Monday, 14 May 2012 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

started reading Psycho Shop an unfinished Alfred Bester novel that Roger Zelazny finished after Bester's death. couldn't do it. too silly or something. the zazzy hepcat talk was bugging me.

so, went for *Destiny Doll* by Simak. reading now. so far so weird. i dig it.

scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2012 01:28 (fourteen years ago)

You might like Simak's City too. I've also got his Way Station, haven't read it yet. I'm strung out on short stories, one a day. Haven't found a Simak collection yet--anybody?

dow, Monday, 14 May 2012 04:42 (fourteen years ago)

Finally went back to and finished Damon Knight's Rule Golden and Other Stories. As prev mentioned, the title story comes first: boondocks newspaper editor, too smart for his own good, finds himself drafted to study an alien captive, his job during what may be his own prison term. The alien manipulates him into faciltating their escape, and during their time on the run across the world--could be a pre-Le Carre thriller, mainly about the stress of adaptation and paradigm shift.For the alien also:he's here to keep Earthlings to venture into Galaxy w freakishly violent drives intact--but such a rare dilemma and new solution, who knows what results will accrue. Easy enough to pick up on this, despite the genre patterns. Also in "Double Meaning," which moves a bit beyond didactic demonstration of didactism's tight-assed limations. The uptight protagonist, threatened by having to consult with an uncouth postcolonial, as they search for an alien impersonating a subject of Earth's Galactic Empire, is also plotting his own rise from the lower classes by manipulating a neurotic aristocrat into marrying him. He (hope he's)wearing down her resistence in various, plausibly projected ways (this was 50s pulp for middle school geeks??) Again, easily picked up implications (he can't go into Les Liasons D-etail), and invivations to speculate, like about what happens after the genre-typical happy-ish ending. "The Earth Quarter" is post-Imperial, postcolonial, except now the freakishly violent-tending Earthlings are in galactic ghettos, still somehow dependent on exports from supposedly ruined Earth, and trying to cope with mental and physical exile. "The Dying Man" is not dystopian, but again, slowly grokking the still-human nature of Earthopian life. I better end this, but the collection, the de facto series, gets better as it goes along, too.

dow, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

"from venturing into galaxy w freakishly violent drives intact," that is. "Could be a pre-Le Carre thriller, mainly (kinda something else)" not meant to imply Knight doesn't have his own knack for moving sometimes bloody-minded tacticians around the 4-D chessboard.

dow, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

anybody read Tatyana Tolstaya's "The Slynx"?

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

i have and it was good

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

today at the thrift store i bought: the best of c.m. kornbluth paperback and a hardcover of greg bear's slant.

thinking of this thread i went to the used store around the corner and bought:

kim stanley robinson: antarctica (hardcover), green mars, blue mars, icehenge

rudy rucker: the hacker and the ants, freeware

(and a frederik pohl twofer paperback with drunkard's walk and the age of the pussyfoot)

scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

i have read those pohls. they are both pretty okay. i remember almost nothing about the first one, except learning what a drunkard's walk was.

thomp, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

speaking of Kornbluth & Pohl (their Merchants would prob approve Amis's inflated blurb)
http://www.sffaudio.com/images11/SFMASTERWORKSTheSpaceMerchants565.jpg

dow, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:22 (fourteen years ago)

wtf @ blade runner rip-off cover

the fey monster (ledge), Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:22 (fourteen years ago)

Hey. let free enterprise ring! Here's the one I used to have
http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2009/11/1349544308_8668299a8f_b.jpg

dow, Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

Suitable art fo Mad Men

dow, Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

Michael Dirda is on the case: http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/robert-sheckleys-store-of-the-worlds-reviewed-by-michael-dirda/2012/05/16/gIQAVzmpUU_story.html

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 05:51 (fourteen years ago)

Let’s say you are a devoted fan of Kurt Vonnegut’s books ... Where else can you find similar instances of sly, macabre wit, of such black-humored, gin-and-tonic fizziness in storytelling?

The answer may be unexpected: among the many masters of satirical science fiction and fantasy.

yeah, real unexpected there

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:34 (fourteen years ago)

seems like a weird thing for nyrb to bring out, is it another lethem baby

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:35 (fourteen years ago)

WP book critic writing for general audience and not readers of this thread shocka. And in fact how well is Sheckley known these days in sf circles, outside of The Sluglords? Or Sladek?

Yeah, the man who also brought you Inverted World, Lethem, so I say more power to him. And his co-conspirator, Alex Abramovich. Dirda too. Note to thomp, you will not like the intro to this book.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Utopia14%28Vonnegut%29.jpg

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:27 (fourteen years ago)

Utopia 14? What the.. oh I see.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:31 (fourteen years ago)

i know vonnegut is other things than 'a science fiction writer' -- but i'm sure the writer of the sentences i quote is aware that he was, amongst other things, 'a science fiction writer'. i think it's a pretty dishonest thing to write; i think it's re-entrenching divisions in a fairly pointless way, to say 'hey you can get something like vonnegut if you go and dirty your hands with this science fiction guy', when actually vonnegut's aesthetic emerged from certain conceptions of sf self-seriousness as much as anything, and if you read vonnegut and don't get that you're not a very good reader

sorry that's a bit of a tangent

i just think the comparison is framed in a dishonest & a patronising way, and i think the rest of the article betrays little more than a passing familiarity with sheckley (who i'm not expert on myself, admittedly - i don't even much like him)

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:33 (fourteen years ago)

OK, I see your point. I thought I saw another twist in there, I was reading it as "The answer may at first seem unexpected"

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:40 (fourteen years ago)

Note to thomp, you will not like the intro to this book.

hahaha

Lamp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

i had a look at the intro and i don't know what i'm meant to be not liking about it so ¯\ (o_o) /¯ , i guess

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

The bending over backwards overly defensive I'm trying desperately hard not to say it but I'm kind of ultimately forced to say it anyway you may think he is "only" an sf writer but he is actually really good position.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

Should have added the word "blues" at the end.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

i feel like you don't really get my position here

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

I got it a few posts back but I kept pursuing this other, unrelated line of inquiry. Sorry

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

Latest thrift store scores:
Path Into The Unknown--The Best of Soviet Science Fiction. No creds for ed or trans. Dell PB '68, orig MacGibbon & Kee Ltd, UK '66. Reputable? Intro by Judith Merril, which I've just skimmed because I don't want to be prejudiced (she's v. opinionated). She mentions some are late Stalin-era, compares them to the post-(most of 'em, I think). Is sometimes frustrated by translations, but cites several pushing their way through, especially "Wanderers and Travellers," by Arkady Strugatsky. He and brother Boris wrote "An Emergency Case." Plus, two by Ilya Varshavsky, one each by Vladislav Krapiivin, Sever Gansovsky, G. Gor, and Anatoly Dneprov. Didn't Sturgeon edit (or get his name on) an another collection of Soviet S.F.? What other Soviet of post-Soviet antholgies should I check?

dow, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

Oh yeah, also from the thrift store:
The Year's Best Horror Stories XIV. DAW PB '86 , edited by Karl Edward Wagner. Incl.Charles L. Grant, Ramsey Campbell, Tanith Lee, David J. Schow, William F. Nolan, and Dennis Etchison, among many others--mostly 80s names for sure, where are they now? Horror was an 80s boomtown.
Revelation Space, Ace PB 2002, by Alastair Reynolds. Liked his anthologized stories OK, and this sports ravin' blurbs from Locus, Stephen Baxter, many others. So--?
Best of Damon Kinght, the only hardback in this haul(SF Book Club ed)

dow, Saturday, 19 May 2012 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

Speaking of the 80s, I read the Strugatsky brothers' Roadside Picnic and Hard To Be A God back then, both very festive.

dow, Saturday, 19 May 2012 22:00 (fourteen years ago)

"The New Planet" by Konstantin Yuon, 1921. Da!
http://s.wordpress.com/imgpress?fit=1000,1000&url=http%3A%2F%2Frussiansf.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F01%2Fyuon_new_planet-better2.jpg

dow, Saturday, 19 May 2012 23:26 (fourteen years ago)

where do i start with octavia butler? she seems so cool but i have never read any of her stuff. the patternist series?

bene_gesserit, Saturday, 19 May 2012 23:29 (fourteen years ago)

I like Tarkovsky's version of Solaris
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/6/24/1308916809537/solaris-007.jpg

dow, Saturday, 19 May 2012 23:35 (fourteen years ago)

Wild Seed (from the Patternist series) and Kindred first come to mind, very favorably. This is a pretty good overview:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/butler_octavia

dow, Saturday, 19 May 2012 23:52 (fourteen years ago)

i prefer the xenogenesis series to the patternist series but both are dope

the late great, Sunday, 20 May 2012 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

[Wild Seed (from the Patternist series) and Kindred first come to mind, very favorably. This is a pretty good overview

Alos, Parable of the Sower and Parable of the Talents if you feel like some civilisation-falling-apart stories. The 'Bloodchild' short story collection is also a good intro

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Sunday, 20 May 2012 02:12 (fourteen years ago)

yeah it all sounds so good. i became intrigued by the illustration and description of anyanwu from "wild seed" in barlowe's guide to fantasy, need to read her asap.
http://lcart1.narod.ru/image/fantasy/wayne_barlowe/gtf/Wayne_Barlowe_Anyanwu.jpg

bene_gesserit, Sunday, 20 May 2012 02:18 (fourteen years ago)

oh hi saturday night, could i be more of a dork.

bene_gesserit, Sunday, 20 May 2012 02:19 (fourteen years ago)

god the cover art by wayne barlowe is so good too
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0vq9dt1XQ1r6agxto1_500.jpg

bene_gesserit, Sunday, 20 May 2012 02:21 (fourteen years ago)

Duh I'd by it for that! Same artist did your prev pic post?

dow, Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:13 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, wayne barlowe - he is amazing. i bought barlowe's guide to fantasy (illustrations of characters from fantasy books) and "barlowe's guide to extra-terrestrials" on ebay for less than a dollar. here's the alzabo from "book of the new sun"!
http://lcart1.narod.ru/image/fantasy/wayne_barlowe/gtf/Wayne_Barlowe_Alzabo.jpg

bene_gesserit, Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

it's been really good inspiration for things to read!

bene_gesserit, Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:47 (fourteen years ago)

those look like books i could love.

the fey monster (ledge), Sunday, 20 May 2012 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

i really liked Destiny Doll by Simak. all my fave SF books make me sad. so many cool ideas and moments in a slim paperback. can't really ask much more from fiction or art.

gonna read frederik pohl's The Man Who Ate The World story collection next. then dig into some of the non-SF paperbacks i brought home yesterday. maybe alternate SF/non/SF/non...i'm kinda comfortable reading nothing but space operas at this point in my life. reality is a drag. i learn more and think more reading sci-fi then i do most straight lit these days.

at the thrift store, they had tons of those mercenary/doomsday/road warrior paperbacks and i was SO tempted to buy a bunch of them even though i know they are mostly terrible. i do love the IDEA of the genre though. "Jake Callahan survived World War III and warily joined a resistance movement hidden in the mountains of what was once Colorado, but would he be able to outlive the ultimate test of his formidable Navy SEALs skills..."

okay, i made that quote up, but that's kinda how they all go.

scott seward, Monday, 21 May 2012 03:01 (fourteen years ago)

the main problem with them, despite the prose quality, is they often have truly scary political egenda, KKK-style

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:18 (fourteen years ago)


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