produced by ... michael bay?
― they call him (remy bean), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i always thought it should be a 12-episode HBO miniseries broadcast in the same order as the book, w/ different directors for each segment doing 2 episodes each
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
unfortunately i am not in charge
your idea is better!
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Much better, although conversely I don't think there's so much spilling out of Cloud Atlas that it couldn't be served well by a film adaptation. Hopefully they restrict Hanks to just one section rather than having him play several characters.
Luisa Rey section aside, the BBC might make a better fist of a Cloud Atlas series than HBO. Can't quite see an HBO-ised Timothy Cavendish story somehow.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link
It would be OK if Hanks just played the old gay bloke that Luisa Rey meets on a balcony
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link
definitely, matt, HBO was just a placeholder
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the most middle section of the book could be awesome – if it were done all dreamy and super-futuristic like
― they call him (remy bean), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Apparently playing Dr. Henry Goose: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1371111/
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
About one hundred pages into Jacob de Zoet, which I am so far enjoying more than his other books.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 May 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2011/news/111121/hugh-grant-300.jpg
hugh grant in makeup on set
― max, Saturday, 12 November 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:03 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This is a great idea and would prob be better than the book which for all its effort never really shook the milquetoast Englishman tone
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 November 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
What an insult to Calvino frankly
J/k it was p good
nice try
― max, Saturday, 12 November 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
Do u love this book max, cause I only like it it, its a bit stilted or something
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 November 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i do. i dont get 'stilted' at all from it--some parts dont succeed as well as others for sure. i think ghostwritten is better probably. (the others are all good too but not as easy to compare.) this guy is like my favorite working author though!
― max, Saturday, 12 November 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
Ghostwritten is still my favorite, although a large chunk of the new one was beautiful.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
It's a great book and I agree with Max (and suspect Alfred is correct about excellence of new book also) -- as living authors go, DM is brilliant and admirable and I like to celebrate him.
as I have said before I even thought no9dream, which no one here liked, was often staggeringly brilliant
― the pinefox, Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
I really liked Cloud Atlas, but I found Jacob de Zoet problematic. I seem to remember feeling it toiled somewhat. Pretty sure I wrote something on ILB, hang on.
― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
Here we go:
I... can't make up my mind. Some good things - there's a nice aesthetic tingle produced by yoking constructs of Dutch 18th C Enlightenment/language with Japanese, and also his brief thumbnail detail has a sort of... well, what I wd approximate ignorantly with Japanese brush strokes, or the fine detail of its poetry/art.Yet, and yet, it's awful slow burning. Mitchell's good at little set pieces, but actually, not an awful lot is happening. Continual hints at mystery are beginning to produce an atmosphere of a type of magic realism, whereas Cloud Atlas details a sense of real magic, rather than gesturing towards a sort of totemic/symbolic/metaphoric spirituality, which always strikes me as half-baked, and not a little lubberly.There's a touch of the TEFL about the language stuff and a touch of the history lesson about more than a few of the character speechs.His style grates on me sometimes as well, with characters' thinking descriptions in a most writerly fashion. Noticed this as well in Cloud Atlas, but it mattered less.
Yet, and yet, it's awful slow burning. Mitchell's good at little set pieces, but actually, not an awful lot is happening. Continual hints at mystery are beginning to produce an atmosphere of a type of magic realism, whereas Cloud Atlas details a sense of real magic, rather than gesturing towards a sort of totemic/symbolic/metaphoric spirituality, which always strikes me as half-baked, and not a little lubberly.
There's a touch of the TEFL about the language stuff and a touch of the history lesson about more than a few of the character speechs.
His style grates on me sometimes as well, with characters' thinking descriptions in a most writerly fashion. Noticed this as well in Cloud Atlas, but it mattered less.
― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
i loved the new one, even the mystical mountain demon part
― average internet commentator (remy bean), Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
i liked no9dream, pinefox
― max, Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
Feel like for all the formal ambition he's p workman like, he could afford to be more outragous or something, I'm all spread yr wings and fly David mitchell - like riffing off if on a winters night a traveler but finishing the stories is kind of oddly in opposition to the sprit of the thing - don't get me wrong it's still p awesome in its own way I just found it k frustrating
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 November 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
eh i think IOAWNAT is the wrong referent here, obviously its a forerunner to this but what hes doing is grounded a lot more in sci-fi/fantasy than it is in postmodern text games
that being said he doesnt "finish the stories" in ghostwritten, maybe youd like it more?
― max, Saturday, 12 November 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
Isnt cloud atlas a direct ionawnat reference tho
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 November 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno
― max, Saturday, 12 November 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't like winter's night and I loved Cloud Atlas
yes, he says CA idea was taken from WNight, but from my POV he has taken something and vastly improved on it.
Presumably that is possible to do and many instances could be found - eg Elvis Presley and Bill Haley, or whatever (nothing against Haley)
― the pinefox, Saturday, 12 November 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
omg you're the only one, pinefox! besides me! who doesn't like if on a winter's night! <3!
― horseshoe, Saturday, 12 November 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
Crazy talk!
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 November 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
i like his novels a lot but am also biased cuz ive interviewed a couple of times and he was just super intelligent and engaged and fun to talk to and once took like an extra hour just to chat w/ me abt like japanese music and nabakov, and was really encouraging and kind abt my own writing
'ghostwritten' is his best book, i think, although there are stretches of 'cloud atlas' that are incredible i think some of the sections really lag, also hes better at beginning than ending mb
hes kindof a storyteller at heart tho, i think, like he cares abt his characters and what happens to them, it makes his more fractured stories less inventive/clever but also nicer to read cuz theyre not just chess pieces or w/e. when i talked to him abt 'black swan green' he talked a lot abt 'realism' and caring abt truth which is kinda in opposition to calvino, sort of
― we were cool once (Lamp), Saturday, 12 November 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
My favorite part of Jacob de Zoet was the final section: the sea captain's ruminations.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 November 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
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― max, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link
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― max, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link
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more here http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/07/25/cloud-atlas-photos-tom-hanks-halle-berry-exclusive-first-look/
― max, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link
long ass trailer http://www.joblo.com/video/player.php?video=cloud-atlas-long-trailer
― max, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
Running time 164 minutes
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:45 (eleven years ago) link
why is this not a tv show
― just sayin, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
Haha wau this looks fucking terrible. I will definitely go and see it.
I'm assuming Tom Hanks's character has just been made up for the film version?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link
Where does that Guy Ritchie-style gangster subplot in present day London fit in?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 July 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
As if that weren’t complicated enough, each cast member plays multiple roles ... “We thought about these individual characters as aspects of larger characters,” Lana Wachowski says.
― thomp, Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link