i want to know what to read next from him..
― Zeno, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)
Of the recent ones, you can't go wrong with 'The Plot Against America', 'Everyman' or 'The Human Stain'. If you don't like those, then any Roth is unlikely to appeal.
― James Morrison, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 23:44 (nineteen years ago)
I'm not if Portnoy is the best, but you should read it before the Zuckerman unbound sequence (Ghost Writer to Prague Orgy), which you should read before the later Zuckerman books (Pastoral to Stain). If you want a one-off, Sabbath and Shylock are both excellent.
― Ray, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)
I'm not _sure_ if Portnoy...
i did read american pastoral , thought it was a good storytelling, but i think, only from that example, that compared to bellow and updike,roth is the weakest of the three, while all of them are dealing with more or less the same issues. bellow is the deepest,updike is the best in metaphors and dialouge. i did like american pastoral, but the hysteric atmosphere, the long pointless paragraphs towards the end and the too american sense was a bit too much sometimes.
― Zeno, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)
I think the last section of American Pastoral is weak, but the first two are just incredible.
― Ray, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)
American Pastoral, obv. Greatest Philip Roth novel.
― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 4 June 2007 22:53 (nineteen years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Monday, 4 June 2007 23:01 (nineteen years ago)
Shit, I missed this thread. I say it divides up like this:
Masterpieces (in no particular order): Portnoy's Complaint The Ghost Writer Sabbath's Theater The Counterlife Patrimony
Just-Shy-of-Masterpieces: The Human Stain Zuckerman Unbound American Pastoral
Very, Very Good Books: The Plot Against America My Life As a Man The Professor of Desire The Anatomy Lesson The Prague Orgy Operation Shylock
― G00blar, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:04 (nineteen years ago)
I missed this poll. I would have thrown one in for Dying Animal. Of course, it relates back to a time when I was dating a professor of Creative writing/Poetry, so it was all very appropriate... hm. All his books are great. Go read The Breast, I laughed my ass off.
― Andi Mags, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 01:13 (eighteen years ago)
ha I just read that today. the cover was just a picture of a single big vertically-oriented breast, very odd and off-putting.
― W i l l, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 02:42 (eighteen years ago)
man, I just read Sabbath's v. recently and I completely loved it.
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)
So how much does it matter to read the series books in order? The Roth books I've read and own are pretty random, but if it matters, I'll try to be a bit more conscious of what I read next, instead of just grabbing whatever sounds most appealing at the moment.
― Øystein, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 06:33 (eighteen years ago)
There's only one real interconnected sequence, and I read that out of order without feeling I was missing anything. Most of the books are independent of each other. That said, when I finish reading Roth's novels I'll probably read them all again in order, to see the development of his themes through his life.
― Ray, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 07:46 (eighteen years ago)
Professor of Desire is the bomb.
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 02:11 (eighteen years ago)
Especially the second half!
― G00blar, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)
^I'm reading it now and I'm into it.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)
portnoy probably,followed closely by sabbath
― Zeno, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)
well,Ladbrokes.com, who previously guessed the nobel prize winner in the last 4 years,placing Roth as the winner in 2007... http://www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_portal?action=go_home&LANG=en&STYLE=en&VIEW=uk&LAYOUT=default&retURL_g=http%5E//www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_sports?action=go_category%7Ecategory=SPECIALS
― Zeno, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)
...it seems they were wrong this time...
― Zeno, Friday, 12 October 2007 11:22 (eighteen years ago)
JUST finished The Human Stain - JESUS CHRIST WHAT A NOVEL
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 4 October 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)
otm
― unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, probably his best.though JUST finished The Ghost Writer - JESUS CHRIST WHAT A NOVEL
― nostormo, Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)
I've only read Goodbye and Everyman, and liked the latter a lot. WHAT AN ENDING
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 4 October 2012 23:59 (thirteen years ago)
i read the ghost writer last year, MAN IT WAS PRETTY OKAY
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Friday, 5 October 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)
the next two zuckerman books i read those too THEY WERE SORT OF ALRIGHT I GUESS
i read that wwii alternate history one more recently IVE READ BETTER NOVELS
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Friday, 5 October 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)
His best novels:
The CounterlifeThe Ghost WriterThe Prague Orgy
but those late nineties novels have extraordinary things.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 October 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)
Patrimony is of my favorite non-fiction books by anybody.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 October 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)
i had what i thought was a great idea for a novel once, until 10 seconds on google informed me it was 'the ghost writer.' :(
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 5 October 2012 00:33 (thirteen years ago)
EVERYMAN definitely a fav, if only for so succinctly doing everything i want/love from roth
PATRIMONY something i finally started reading a week or two ago, & have been distracted from but hope to return to at some point. start was sobering.
― unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Friday, 5 October 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)
I have those three Zuckerman novels in a single volume. I pretty much read a Roth novel each fall, so time to do those.
― Norah Jones Protest Vote (Eazy), Friday, 5 October 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)
I've got When She Was Good to start on the way home tonight. I HAVEN'T STARTED IT YET, GIVE ME A BREAK
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 5 October 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAAqiO_Z9Vs
― circa1916, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:15 (nine years ago)
for those whove been waiting to see Dakota fanning vomit in ewen mcgregors face
― johnny crunch, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:27 (nine years ago)
how does one fan vomit? :)
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 June 2016 15:28 (nine years ago)
Another downtempo version of Mad World? How fresh.
― doug watson, Friday, 24 June 2016 17:50 (nine years ago)
American Pastoral
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:04 (eight years ago)