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Executions serve an important role in society.

Bring back sumptuary laws.

There are too many lazy people.

Kill the weak.

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:32 (two years ago) Permalink

War is an honorable pasttime

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:34 (two years ago) Permalink

People who are against spanking children don't understand the evil inherent in human nature.

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:35 (two years ago) Permalink

this got dark v quickly

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:44 (two years ago) Permalink

The Western literary canon has substantial value.

Free verse poetry is less interesting than formal poetry.

Photography is a lesser art and should not be celebrated outside facebook pages.

No good literature has been produced since WW2.

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 04:48 (two years ago) Permalink

fewer and fewer schools are teaching cursive these days, and that's a real shame

mainstream rap has had a net negative influence on the quality of American chartpop

comics may or may not be a serious art form, but graphic novels really don't belong on 'greatest novels of all time' lists

most people in this world are feebs/children/psychopaths who will revert to arson/scalping/pillaging the moment they're freed from the strictures of organized religion. evangelical atheism is one of the greatest threats to the stability of western civilization, and the world will not be safe until atheism has been scaled down to a Masonic/Rosicrucian-style secret society with a maximum global membership of ≈100,000 carefully vetted rationalist supermen

hippie lady from california who loves that god (unregistered), Thursday, 4 August 2016 04:29 (two years ago) Permalink

if i can make it to a church before capture i should be given sanctuary

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 August 2016 08:03 (two years ago) Permalink

british imperialism was better than most of the alternatives

individualism is in many respects v good

ogmor, Thursday, 4 August 2016 11:28 (two years ago) Permalink

i've got nothing else i can think of, you people are monsters tbh

'cept unregistered maybe, can get behind the secret atheism bit

the Zenga bus is coming (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 August 2016 11:35 (two years ago) Permalink

brown sugar runs rings around superfoods as a topping for oatmeal.

estela, Thursday, 4 August 2016 12:13 (two years ago) Permalink

i have brooks brothers glasses

esempiu (crüt), Thursday, 4 August 2016 12:14 (two years ago) Permalink

Compulsory parade attendance.

how's life, Thursday, 4 August 2016 12:27 (two years ago) Permalink

yoga is bullshit

sarahell, Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:14 (two years ago) Permalink

military technology is pretty cool

brimstead, Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:30 (two years ago) Permalink

it is obnoxious for boys under the age of 13 to have long hair, and an indication that their parents are overindulgent.

today, while at the supermarket, I saw a boy of no more than 10 with a mohawk and felt genuinely incensed.

soref, Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:31 (two years ago) Permalink

i like to open a door for a lady

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:33 (two years ago) Permalink

lol, there is definitely this thing that happens in Brooklyn where I see certain longhaired pre-teens and I can just *tell* that they have skateboard dads who encourage them to have it, like it's not even rebellious but actually DL striving by the parents.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:33 (two years ago) Permalink

I like women.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:36 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't append "cis" to the male box that I check off on every form.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:37 (two years ago) Permalink

Cannot abide visible bra straps, even when fashionable

Dogs are outside pets.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 August 2016 01:05 (two years ago) Permalink

Tattoos.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 August 2016 01:08 (two years ago) Permalink

an individual's actions does have something to do w/ their success

not all cultures are equally wonderful and some are bad enough that they should be discouraged

life could be hellish and for many ppl it is so if yours isn't some gratitude is probably in order

Mordy, Friday, 5 August 2016 05:36 (two years ago) Permalink

nb 1 + 3 might not be internally consistent

Mordy, Friday, 5 August 2016 05:36 (two years ago) Permalink

Femmephobia is way less useful as a critical concept than misogyny

Self-care is necessary but not thereby radically oppositional

Couching leftist projects in terms of resistance to neoliberalism rather than to capitalism risks a lot of reformist implications

one way street, Friday, 5 August 2016 05:52 (two years ago) Permalink

(Not that femmephobia can't be useful in order to talk about, say, biases in specific queer spaces, but it can mystify the conditions that butch and gnc women actually face if applied too generally.)

one way street, Friday, 5 August 2016 05:57 (two years ago) Permalink

watching grown adults discussing rae sremmurd like it was literature is to behold the end of art

imago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:31 (two years ago) Permalink

that's not a "reveal" per se

Tom Watson in a fedora (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:32 (two years ago) Permalink

I forgot imago had some sort of Sremm beef. Why so much hate?

emil.y, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:33 (two years ago) Permalink

Marxism is dumb and bad.

Capitalist liberal democracy is the end point of Western civilization, it will never be superseded by a higher/better form of social organization, will only end through collapse.

Men should not have facial hair and people in general should not have messy hair.

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:37 (two years ago) Permalink

xps i don't recall saying that you can hear a soulja boy's influence on chaucer

esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:38 (two years ago) Permalink

lol "a soulja boy." the soulja boy's tale

esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:39 (two years ago) Permalink

currently at peak hair and beard, this will probably only end by collapse too tbh

sremm beef = just watch their latest video, 'set the roof' and listen to the lyrics, they're just the worst people in earth, i fucking despise literally everything they're doing, it isn't even abrasive in an interesting way

lol crut, one for old-skool ilx that

imago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:46 (two years ago) Permalink

hir wese y manne ful cranke, tellynge

imago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:49 (two years ago) Permalink

Femmephobia is way less useful as a critical concept than misogyny

Self-care is necessary but not thereby radically oppositional

Couching leftist projects in terms of resistance to neoliberalism rather than to capitalism risks a lot of reformist implications

― one way street, Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:52 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink]

looooool

he mea ole, he kanaka lapuwale (sciatica), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:52 (two years ago) Permalink

women's sports are, in general, less exciting versions of men's sports

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:52 (two years ago) Permalink

I'll watch women's tennis from time to time but yeah

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:57 (two years ago) Permalink

There are too many things that I massively disagree with posted here for it to be worth a fight on any one of them. I'm just wondering why the 'loool' at ows? Because those aren't really conservative standpoints? They kind of are in comparison to a lot of current radical discourse (I agree with all of them, though not entirely with the latter, but again, I kind of feel this thread is meant to be a dumping ground not a discussion ground).

emil.y, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:04 (two years ago) Permalink

women's sports are, in general, less exciting versions of men's sports

― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:52 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sexual dimorphism of humans def means that a lot of sports are more exciting to watch when men are playing them but otoh a lot of women's sports are less commercialized and therefore less likely to suffer from rampant PED use endemic to men's sports and therefore likely to be more of a clean competition

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:08 (two years ago) Permalink

also crowds at woman's sports tend to be less shitty

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:08 (two years ago) Permalink

(emil.y i was laughing at the extreme relativity necessary to consider those "conservative opinions." i assumed they were posted tongue in cheek so thought i was laughing along with one way street, not at them, and wasn't critiquing the positions themselves)

he mea ole, he kanaka lapuwale (sciatica), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Can't speak for sciatica but I lol'ed at ows' post bc it requires some, like, wicked fractal definition of conservatism within the queer anticapotalist left. but I get how all those opinions could be uncool rn

flopson, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:15 (two years ago) Permalink

liberalism as many of my friends practice it is like a shitty religion that i want no part of.

they think of other people as needing to be saved, by them.
they make penance with speech acts, not real action.
they live their lives in constant guilt.
they live in cities that are only differentiated from other cities by being huge destinations for wealth, then they disavow that wealth while continuing to partake in the lifestyle it provides.
they blame rich people for all the evils of the world while ignoring that they are the 1%.
they prescribe how other people should be living their own lives.
they say things that have no meaning other than to reveal to others that they are members in this very sensitive club of good people.
it's nothing but performative.

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Lol got xp'd

flopson, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:16 (two years ago) Permalink

I must admit I like Republican President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower. But chances are, you also like Ike. Maybe everybody likes Ike.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:18 (two years ago) Permalink

xps to sciatica and flopson - yeah, both of those reasons are basically fair enough. I think I inhabit so many circles where these are topics for fierce debate that I took it w/ a completely straight face!

emil.y, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:19 (two years ago) Permalink

watching grown adults discussing rae sremmurd like it was literature is to behold the end of art

― imago,

links?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:19 (two years ago) Permalink

I must admit I like Republican President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower. But chances are, you also like Ike. Maybe everybody likes Ike.

― Philip Nunez,

best Cold War president if you look past his championing of covert ops

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:19 (two years ago) Permalink

i thought we decided this was the luxury gay space communism thread

conservatives don't have "beliefs", only prejudices

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:03 (six months ago) Permalink

"conservatives don't have "beliefs", only prejudices"

I think this is a fascist belief, but I don't know if it's conservative or liberal

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:54 (six months ago) Permalink

It's a fact

Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:00 (six months ago) Permalink

of all the reductive dichotomies we can sort the world into, "people who worry for the souls of their enemies" and "people who don't" is one of them

Neymar, Mr Nice Guy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:15 (six months ago) Permalink

Never wear a belt with a waistcoat, ffs

Et Dieu crea l' (Michael White), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:41 (six months ago) Permalink

I think this is a fascist belief, but I don't know if it's conservative or liberal

― droit au butt (Euler)

yeah i know i'm ignoring all of the Principled Conservatives who have columns in the New York Times

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 19:24 (six months ago) Permalink

no I mean it's fascist to think that people (conservative or whoever) only have prejudices, not beliefs, because that means you think they act without beliefs, without reason, and that's how fascists think about people: action before belief

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 19:46 (six months ago) Permalink

i don't know what conservatives (or anyone else) "have". i just know what they do.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 20:00 (six months ago) Permalink

I don’t think people’s beliefs, as they would articulate them, usually enter in to the causal history of the actions they take. Dunno how that is fascist.

devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 20:11 (six months ago) Permalink

didn’t see/say anything about causal histories

but if you think action comes before thought... you might be a fascist

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 21:03 (six months ago) Permalink

i think it's important to check yrself, esp in times (and threads) like these, so let's see. do i think democracy is a wicked and perverse institution? i do not. am i convinced that the problems in my life and my peers' lives have been inflicted upon me by an elite conspiracy designed to invert the rightful hierarchy i am also convinced my peers and i ought to be on permanent top of? nope. is my response to the notion of serious downward redistribution of wealth and power to use any means necessary to prevent it, including violence, including if some of that wealth and power is likely to be redistributed to me, because it would also be distributed to people i hate and fear? not rly. have i plotted, or had plotted for me, an elaborate story that explains the stresses and democratic instability that come from inequality as instead coming from a racialized moral impurity that infects huge swathes of the lower classes, is cooked up by treasonous snakes in the upper classes, and can only be purged by mass violence? nah. do i think history is nothing but zero-sum struggle between implacably opposed nations and tribes and that anyone who tells you any different should be killed? can't say that i do. is my idea of a beautiful public event one that is full of spectacular and intimidating demonstrations of mass solidarity, rage, and violent potency, but also tightly scripted down to the second by unquestioned authorities? def not. do i look good in black? no better than the next husky guy. do i suspect that much of what people think of as their moral principles are actually post-facto rationalizations for actions they take instinctively, explaining why so many people's principles are so conspicuously incoherent? yeah i kinda do-- ah fuck! just when i was doing so well.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 21:38 (six months ago) Permalink

lol

it's true that fascism is hard to define, and so we tend to identify it with the way things went in Italy and Germany. but I'll be that guy who says you can't define communism by what happened in the USSR and China too. & as I understand fascism (from Gentile and Mussolini for instance), it's a doctrine of action & feeling over thought, a romanticism. this kind of doctrine is appealing to brutes and so the "action" realized is violence against "others", but that doesn't mean it's "what's most key" about what fascism is. as in: any state that values action & feeling over thought is going to end up doing the kinds of things you listed...because those feelings are powerful (and states that want to avoid those things should work against putting action and feeling over thought). (that is my conservative thought)

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 21:49 (six months ago) Permalink

ha, see, relevantly, i would probably say the generic philosophical principles of fascism postdate and metaphysically justify the actions of a state or party or person that is responding to the pressures i describe in the manner i describe.

will grant that like, if you've personally become rly disillusioned w the concept of rationality, or if you're rly tired of feeling obligated to critically evaluate any of your feelings, you may respond to the blind and muscular righteousness of an existing fascist appeal even if you weren't previously too worried about jews replacing you. but it's worth asking at whose hands exactly it seems to you that you are inflicted with these obligations-- who it is exactly you feel expects you to care about what, and why exactly you'd prefer not to. imo there are likely to be clear material answers to these questions.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 22:35 (six months ago) Permalink

dlh doing good work here

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 23:24 (six months ago) Permalink

good talk imo

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 23:24 (six months ago) Permalink

no I mean it's fascist to think that people (conservative or whoever) only have prejudices, not beliefs, because that means you think they act without beliefs, without reason, and that's how fascists think about people: action before belief

― droit au butt (Euler)

so you're interpreting my statement as implying something like that we humans are mindless beasts driven by animal unreason? that does sound fairly fascist - and like most fascist beliefs it's completely false. Prejudice and hatred aren't something we're born with, they're something we learn. thinking in a strictly logical sense is something difficult and taxing for all humans. in that conservative mind attachment to one's paralogical thought processes becomes pathological and one becomes incapable of logically evaluating certain things, most notably the value and efficacy of those paralogical processes themselves. so it's utterly useless to try and reason with them, because they outright reject reason in certain specific domains.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 23:27 (six months ago) Permalink

think it's important to check yrself, esp in times (and threads) like these, so let's see. do i think democracy is a wicked and perverse institution? i do not. am i convinced that the problems in my life and my peers' lives have been inflicted upon me by an elite conspiracy designed to invert the rightful hierarchy i am also convinced my peers and i ought to be on permanent top of? nope. is my response to the notion of serious downward redistribution of wealth and power to use any means necessary to prevent it, including violence, including if some of that wealth and power is likely to be redistributed to me, because it would also be distributed to people i hate and fear? not rly. have i plotted, or had plotted for me, an elaborate story that explains the stresses and democratic instability that come from inequality as instead coming from a racialized moral impurity that infects huge swathes of the lower classes, is cooked up by treasonous snakes in the upper classes, and can only be purged by mass violence? nah. do i think history is nothing but zero-sum struggle between implacably opposed nations and tribes and that anyone who tells you any different should be killed? can't say that i do. is my idea of a beautiful public event one that is full of spectacular and intimidating demonstrations of mass solidarity, rage, and violent potency, but also tightly scripted down to the second by unquestioned authorities? def not. do i look good in black? no better than the next husky guy. do i suspect that much of what people think of as their moral principles are actually post-facto rationalizations for actions they take instinctively, explaining why so many people's principles are so conspicuously incoherent? yeah i kinda do-- ah fuck! just when i was doing so well.

― difficult listening hour

but do you like the PSB's "Do I Have To"?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 July 2018 00:32 (six months ago) Permalink

and what to do about october?

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 5 July 2018 00:56 (six months ago) Permalink

it's so bemusing

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 July 2018 01:32 (six months ago) Permalink

but it's worth asking at whose hands exactly it seems to you that you are inflicted with these obligations-- who it is exactly you feel expects you to care about what, and why exactly you'd prefer not to. imo there are likely to be clear material answers to these questions.


Those material factors are no less post-facto justifications as philosophical factors.

When we’ve consigned people to be agents of feeling, we should accept that their baser instincts will win. Reason keeps us in control, not wealth, though poverty may force us to abandon reason. Fascism emerges when feeling over reason is chosen freely. Rousseau and Fichte built the tracks to Auschwitz. Material conditions were just a reason to put trains on the tracks.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:22 (six months ago) Permalink

this is a v bertrand russell line yr taking here

ogmor, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:27 (six months ago) Permalink

I think free will as most conceive it today is bullshit nonsense but I also think being not-a-fascist is pretty easy living and you only need a mild helping of information to pull it off.

Sorry wrong thread

El Tomboto, Thursday, 5 July 2018 11:43 (six months ago) Permalink

Wall to wall carpet is kind of a nice change sometimes.

Yerac, Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:56 (six months ago) Permalink

euler on-topic, framing every argument in terms of the philosophical debates of 200 years ago is v. uncool conservative belief

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:06 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah respect

flopson, Thursday, 5 July 2018 14:55 (six months ago) Permalink

ha ha well that is what I get paid to do so

I generally consider myself one of the most conservative people here for that reason

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:11 (six months ago) Permalink

Standing athwart etc

devops mom (silby), Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:13 (six months ago) Permalink

yelling cessāte

El Tomboto, Thursday, 5 July 2018 15:29 (six months ago) Permalink

kids today listen to bad music

adam the (abanana), Friday, 6 July 2018 22:56 (six months ago) Permalink

Well, haven’t they always?

devops mom (silby), Friday, 6 July 2018 22:57 (six months ago) Permalink

kids today listen to bad music

― adam the (abanana)

if you're talking about greta van fleet i agree

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 7 July 2018 00:39 (six months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

“Enthusiastic consent” is an unworkable and silly framework. I get the purpose, but it lumps in mediocre consensual sex with people who are willfully blind to signs of implied lack of consent.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 23 July 2018 03:20 (six months ago) Permalink

Like “meh, ok” is not categorically similar to being drunk and scared.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 23 July 2018 03:20 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

IDK if this is exactly conservative, but sometimes I think American football culture is a good outlet for fascist impulses and we're better off leaving it alone than allowing those impulses to surge elsewhere.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 16 September 2018 20:47 (four months ago) Permalink

I don’t know if football is an outlet, I think it just is fascist.

faculty w1fe (silby), Sunday, 16 September 2018 21:33 (four months ago) Permalink

anyone who has been to a hs pep rally can immediately spot the action before thought ethos

where are my JUNIORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSS AT

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 16 September 2018 21:42 (four months ago) Permalink

*WILD SCREAMING*

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 16 September 2018 21:42 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah, but it seems like a kind of controlled, fishbowl fascism. I'm on the fence about whether it encourages and grows fascist impulses or contains them I guess. xp

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 16 September 2018 21:43 (four months ago) Permalink

Apart from war, what other forms of popular legalized violence are there? Participating and profiting off of people who beat their bodies into CTE ravage and dementia seems extremely fascist.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 16 September 2018 22:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Well there’s MMA and boxing of course. But ironically MMA may actually ravage the body much less than NFL.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 16 September 2018 23:22 (four months ago) Permalink

MMA >>> NFL >> boxing for CTE I'd say

esp since fighters don't generally take big hits to the dome while training, and definitely don't fighting 16 times a year

I'm putting boxing last just cuz the entire point is to win by KO

if you're a good BJJ guy in MMA you might avoid getting tagged hardly ever

gbx, Sunday, 16 September 2018 23:28 (four months ago) Permalink

fighting = fight 16x a year

gbx, Sunday, 16 September 2018 23:29 (four months ago) Permalink

I'm not convinced Wilbur Ross's trade policy is bad.

I'm also not convinced it's actually conservative.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:33 (four months ago) Permalink

by "Ross's trade policy" do you mean tariffs and trade wars, or something different?

i don't really know anything about trade policy, but the consensus seems to be that tariffs as a primary component of trade policy is an idea that was discredited around WWII. then again, those policies were gradually made obsolete by things like WTO and whatever system of international trade that's in place right now, which seems to lead to, among other things, terrible working conditions and environmental degradation in much of the world so that western people can buy cheaper electronic goods. but i'm not sure that means that going back to tariffs and the like is a good idea, either.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 23 September 2018 19:25 (four months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

i have a better take on "fishbowl fascism"

human sacrifice is an important part of maintaining the social order and we should bring it back

errang (rushomancy), Sunday, 6 January 2019 11:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

and by "better" i mean of course "more horrifying"

errang (rushomancy), Sunday, 6 January 2019 11:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I kinda think assassinating politicians is a bad thing. Apparently that's hopelessly centrist now.

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 January 2019 11:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

In other words, not conservative.

Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 13:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i roll my eyes a little when people say that twitter should ban a sitting US president from the platform

marcos, Friday, 18 January 2019 17:56 (six days ago) Permalink

tbh it would be less of an issue if it weren't because @jack is a literal nazi sympathizer

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 18 January 2019 17:57 (six days ago) Permalink


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