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the fact that it's become a liberal (in the left-liberal sense) thing to tout "a global economy defined by free trade" is deserving of ridicule and scorn. It's exactly what's wrong with Democrats today.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:55 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

im not "touting it "and am not a liberal. the issue is that you can't opt out from existing in the global economy, so the stance of "just don't take part in trade deals like everyone else" doesn't really hold water for me. the Lexit argument in the uk, which didn't have many adherents, was of this ilk. the argument goes something like"

opt out of the crony capitalist organization the EU
??????
socialism in the UK and better pay and standards of living for workers

i don’t have strong feelings about pete either way but the ire towards him on twitter is so overblown it makes me want to contraristan

non-service dogs should never be allowed in any business ever*

*pet grooming, veterinarian clinics etc excepted

i wanna weigh in on Sankaku man alive vs jim immigration debate but im submitting a paper tonight so it’ll have to wait a day or 2 but tl;dr jim is correct (although imo it’s way out of line to call them fascists). there’s actually virtually no evidence that immigration pushes down wages. it’s depressingly ironic to me that hurting and sampaku are using the same simplistic “demand and supply” arguments that i bang my head against the wall at conservative labor economists for using. however as per usual u are all way too up your own asses with the “no you’re the neoliberal” “actually we should abolish the nation state and have a
global communist order” “and yet you live within a nation state” circular oneupmanship to understand anything

I only called Sanpaku a fascist. I don't think man alive is a fascist. I do think Sanpaku is a fascist and it's not out of line.

this is the guy who likes to daydream about resource wars and nods approvingly at the Xi regime mind you

im saying this based on the post in question, not familiar with his posts in other threads

There is only #onethread

flopson otm as usual

i don’t have strong feelings about pete either way but the ire towards him on twitter is so overblown it makes me want to contraristan

― flopson, Wednesday, December 16, 2020 1:12 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is the first good thing about Twitter I have ever heard.

socialism is international or it's meaningless.

I think this is why there are a lot of "liberals" and "moderates" ... they have concluded that it is impossible to have international socialism and thus it is meaningless, and hence, we make do

tlg otm as usual

We would like to remind you that the designation, "fascist" should be reserved for actual fascists such as Hitler.

Viele Dank

I am otm as usual.

Feel no qualms about labeling Sanpaku a fascist, whatsoever.

Dear silby,

Please reconsider your qualms

Warmest Regards

can we go back to eephus liking PB and flopson wanting to contraristan him for a sec? all i have to say to that bullshit is... gtfo of here with it

what's wrong with peanut butter?

that's what i asked your mom

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

*wipes brow after that sick burn* i'm j/k

tried to throw a dog hot take to distract from the clusterfuck, to no avail

oh i missed that one and have to say i agree

brb writing working on a hot dog take

Sorry ums, uncool but not really conservative imo

dogs are given way too much leeway in public. people who have their dogs off-leash in any public area aside from strictly designated and fenced-in places like dog parks are savages imo.

All the frozen dog piss I saw on my walk today did make me feel a little uncool

I thought it was cool how people routinely bring their dog to the pub in the UK. It helps that they're better behaved than in any other country I've been to, like nary a bark.

ARE Bri'ish dogs, best dogs in the world, mate

Pub dogs are not normal dogs though. Same with pub cats.

Holy shit they made it in before us and black ppl

the only british dogs i want in my pub

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6a/The_British_Bulldogs.png/220px-The_British_Bulldogs.png

I think schools should be way more open than they are, is that still a conservative belief?

no I think it’s rather apolitical, just dumb

i know plenty of ppl who've moved to the suburbs, but you're the only one who regularly bumps this thread to troll against 'political correctness'

suburban lawyers who used to be in a band: c/d

*with biblical names

I think there is some theoretically possible but realistically fantasy world where the risk calculus could favor schools mostly being open, even with things being not that great overall, unfortunately we fucked up pretty much step along the way to making that happen

nah, it favors them mostly being open today

yeah keeping schools closed has had really terrible effects on my students and i think it's had pretty bad effects on them everywhere.

i was going to put up some articles on the main covid thread - about the negative effects on students and about how the data doesn't really support it as a best practice - but decided not to

a lot of the research right now centers on "learning loss" and while the impacts are definitely real (and definitely worse for students who tend to do worse in school, i.e. poor students, students with learning differences and bipoc) i have to remind myself that i am already of the opinion that we rush kids through school much too fast and concern ourselves too much w/ narrow measures of achievement, so i was able to talk myself down from the panic and uneasiness i felt when looking at achievement data

there is less focus and less research afaict on students' social and emotional health, but the data there is pretty clear too. increased isolation, increased anxiety, increased depression, increased trauma, increased mental illness, increased abuse of all sorts etc etc etc

but hey the reality is - in california anyway - the state government can exert easy control over just a few things: public utilities, public transportation, public safety and last but not least, public education

so it's a lot easier for newsom to shut down the schools than it is to shut down the apple store, the restaurants or the strip clubs. and people are screaming "do something", so that's what he does. what he can do. and the kids pay the price. oh well!

can we go back to eephus liking PB and flopson wanting to contraristan him for a sec? all i have to say to that bullshit is... gtfo of here with it

― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:52 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

idk he just doesn't raise my hackles the same way he does everybody else's

if i don't share the same rage about bread prices in ontario grocery store chains in 2005, it's probably because i grew up in quebec, where bread was cheap and plentiful

Viele Dank

It's vielen dank
xoxo,
someone who cares about language

virtual teaching completely sucks and i saw this semester how completely it drained my colleagues as well as our students. nonetheless i am 100% thrilled that we were NOT open this semester and are NOT open next semester. the idea of being packed into sections every week with three different groups of 15 undergrads for 80 minutes each is a fucking epidemiological nightmare to me after the last nine months in NYC. i would be fucking pissed, on my behalf and theirs, if they made us come in in person. also some of the people on our teaching team are in their 70s and 80s. no fuckin way.

otm

2xp just to pedantically backtrack for a sec:

It's akshually 'vielen Dank', unless you're Stefan George.

DC has it right. It sucks but we have to seal things up and muscle through this. Knowing that vaccine help is on the way should make this a little bit easier.

I saw covid hotspot map for my county the other day and it's just a solid red blob over the university (where I work) and the student neighborhoods close to it (where I live). No way I'm getting back into a classroom until widespread vaccine distribution has happened.

that's cool but FYI the impacts get significantly worse as the kids get younger

and the risk gets much lower as the kids get younger. I don't think universities need to be full in person at all fwiw, I think they can be all remote or hybrid.