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I really like Pete Buttigieg and think his rise in politics is a happy development,

Happy for who? His AI?

The Battle of Taylor Swift's "Evermore" (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

lol this was never gonna be THAT safe a space

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

the fact that it's become a liberal (in the left-liberal sense) thing to tout "a global economy defined by free trade" is deserving of ridicule and scorn. It's exactly what's wrong with Democrats today.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:55 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

im not "touting it "and am not a liberal. the issue is that you can't opt out from existing in the global economy, so the stance of "just don't take part in trade deals like everyone else" doesn't really hold water for me. the Lexit argument in the uk, which didn't have many adherents, was of this ilk. the argument goes something like"

opt out of the crony capitalist organization the EU
??????
socialism in the UK and better pay and standards of living for workers

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

i don’t have strong feelings about pete either way but the ire towards him on twitter is so overblown it makes me want to contraristan

flopson, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

non-service dogs should never be allowed in any business ever*

*pet grooming, veterinarian clinics etc excepted

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

i wanna weigh in on Sankaku man alive vs jim immigration debate but im submitting a paper tonight so it’ll have to wait a day or 2 but tl;dr jim is correct (although imo it’s way out of line to call them fascists). there’s actually virtually no evidence that immigration pushes down wages. it’s depressingly ironic to me that hurting and sampaku are using the same simplistic “demand and supply” arguments that i bang my head against the wall at conservative labor economists for using. however as per usual u are all way too up your own asses with the “no you’re the neoliberal” “actually we should abolish the nation state and have a
global communist order” “and yet you live within a nation state” circular oneupmanship to understand anything

flopson, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

I only called Sanpaku a fascist. I don't think man alive is a fascist. I do think Sanpaku is a fascist and it's not out of line.

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

this is the guy who likes to daydream about resource wars and nods approvingly at the Xi regime mind you

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

im saying this based on the post in question, not familiar with his posts in other threads

flopson, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

There is only #onethread

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

flopson otm as usual

the late great, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

i don’t have strong feelings about pete either way but the ire towards him on twitter is so overblown it makes me want to contraristan

― flopson, Wednesday, December 16, 2020 1:12 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is the first good thing about Twitter I have ever heard.

The Battle of Taylor Swift's "Evermore" (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

socialism is international or it's meaningless.

I think this is why there are a lot of "liberals" and "moderates" ... they have concluded that it is impossible to have international socialism and thus it is meaningless, and hence, we make do

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link

tlg otm as usual

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

We would like to remind you that the designation, "fascist" should be reserved for actual fascists such as Hitler.

Viele Dank

someone who cares about semantics, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

I am otm as usual.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

Feel no qualms about labeling Sanpaku a fascist, whatsoever.

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

Dear silby,

Please reconsider your qualms

Warmest Regards

Rhonda!, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

can we go back to eephus liking PB and flopson wanting to contraristan him for a sec? all i have to say to that bullshit is... gtfo of here with it

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

what's wrong with peanut butter?

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

that's what i asked your mom

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

*wipes brow after that sick burn* i'm j/k

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

tried to throw a dog hot take to distract from the clusterfuck, to no avail

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

oh i missed that one and have to say i agree

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

brb writing working on a hot dog take

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

Sorry ums, uncool but not really conservative imo

loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

dogs are given way too much leeway in public. people who have their dogs off-leash in any public area aside from strictly designated and fenced-in places like dog parks are savages imo.

cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

All the frozen dog piss I saw on my walk today did make me feel a little uncool

loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

I thought it was cool how people routinely bring their dog to the pub in the UK. It helps that they're better behaved than in any other country I've been to, like nary a bark.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

ARE Bri'ish dogs, best dogs in the world, mate

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

Pub dogs are not normal dogs though. Same with pub cats.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link

Holy shit they made it in before us and black ppl

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

I think schools should be way more open than they are, is that still a conservative belief?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

no I think it’s rather apolitical, just dumb

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:23 (three years ago) link

i know plenty of ppl who've moved to the suburbs, but you're the only one who regularly bumps this thread to troll against 'political correctness'

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link

suburban lawyers who used to be in a band: c/d

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

*with biblical names

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link

I think there is some theoretically possible but realistically fantasy world where the risk calculus could favor schools mostly being open, even with things being not that great overall, unfortunately we fucked up pretty much step along the way to making that happen

k3vin k., Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:33 (three years ago) link

nah, it favors them mostly being open today

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:46 (three years ago) link

yeah keeping schools closed has had really terrible effects on my students and i think it's had pretty bad effects on them everywhere.

i was going to put up some articles on the main covid thread - about the negative effects on students and about how the data doesn't really support it as a best practice - but decided not to

a lot of the research right now centers on "learning loss" and while the impacts are definitely real (and definitely worse for students who tend to do worse in school, i.e. poor students, students with learning differences and bipoc) i have to remind myself that i am already of the opinion that we rush kids through school much too fast and concern ourselves too much w/ narrow measures of achievement, so i was able to talk myself down from the panic and uneasiness i felt when looking at achievement data

there is less focus and less research afaict on students' social and emotional health, but the data there is pretty clear too. increased isolation, increased anxiety, increased depression, increased trauma, increased mental illness, increased abuse of all sorts etc etc etc

but hey the reality is - in california anyway - the state government can exert easy control over just a few things: public utilities, public transportation, public safety and last but not least, public education

so it's a lot easier for newsom to shut down the schools than it is to shut down the apple store, the restaurants or the strip clubs. and people are screaming "do something", so that's what he does. what he can do. and the kids pay the price. oh well!

the late great, Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:47 (three years ago) link

can we go back to eephus liking PB and flopson wanting to contraristan him for a sec? all i have to say to that bullshit is... gtfo of here with it

― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:52 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

idk he just doesn't raise my hackles the same way he does everybody else's

flopson, Thursday, 17 December 2020 08:13 (three years ago) link

if i don't share the same rage about bread prices in ontario grocery store chains in 2005, it's probably because i grew up in quebec, where bread was cheap and plentiful

flopson, Thursday, 17 December 2020 08:14 (three years ago) link

Viele Dank

It's vielen dank
xoxo,
someone who cares about language

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 17 December 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link

virtual teaching completely sucks and i saw this semester how completely it drained my colleagues as well as our students. nonetheless i am 100% thrilled that we were NOT open this semester and are NOT open next semester. the idea of being packed into sections every week with three different groups of 15 undergrads for 80 minutes each is a fucking epidemiological nightmare to me after the last nine months in NYC. i would be fucking pissed, on my behalf and theirs, if they made us come in in person. also some of the people on our teaching team are in their 70s and 80s. no fuckin way.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

otm

pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

2xp just to pedantically backtrack for a sec:

It's akshually 'vielen Dank', unless you're Stefan George.

pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

DC has it right. It sucks but we have to seal things up and muscle through this. Knowing that vaccine help is on the way should make this a little bit easier.

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

I saw covid hotspot map for my county the other day and it's just a solid red blob over the university (where I work) and the student neighborhoods close to it (where I live). No way I'm getting back into a classroom until widespread vaccine distribution has happened.

joygoat, Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link


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