Does the wolf erotica have to be given away for free, even though you spent 500 hours writing and designing it and paid 5 people for consulting services: the wildlife biologist who advised on the sexual habits of actual wolves, the graphic artist to create 3-D models of sexy wolves, two dancers to perform physical wolf-like movements in an erotic manner to help with your visualization of the sex scenes, and a lawyer to make sure that your wolf erotica doesn't violate any laws?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
how about zero dollars of my taxes go to wolf erotica
― lumen (esby), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link
I'm Getting Furry!HoooooooooooooooooooooWWWoWooooWoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― conner Smedley (gsc660), Friday, January 31, 2003 3:27 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link
lawyer is also there to sue the other wolf erotica writers for infringing on the source material.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link
^^ Yerac gets it
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link
while you've all been arguing, my meat pies have gone bad and i have been forced to sell my stock at below cost to Purinai am now going to work in the data mines
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link
truly i have been liberated from the yoke of capitalism!
"let's say that product is wolf erotica.
― Yerac"
i have a friend who is trying to start a business doing that, any constructive suggestions welcome
"I hold fast to the uncool conservative belief that power corrupts -- so I am certainly not arguing against the posters here that are citing actual examples of small business owners being horrible people, because power tends to make people do bad things, and people with a tendency to garbage behavior are often attracted to power and obtain it more easily.
― sarahell"
i overanalyze and have, since i read it, been fascinated by robert caro's counterproposal that "power reveals". i suspect that to be broadly true, but what it reveals is broadly dependent on how we are changed by the process of obtaining power.
most of the ways of obtaining power, particularly as pertains to capital, do tend to fuck one up.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link
Okay -- let's make this a bit more challenging, in this hypothetical, we're gonna posit that there is no UBI to subsidize/capitalize the wolf erotica production -- how do we make the best of this less than ideal situation
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
i feel like the wolf erotica market may have peaked/become oversaturated. xpost
― Yerac, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
we are also going to posit that housing and food are obtained in exchange for money, and are not provided for free by the governing body.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link
Does the wolf erotica have to be given away for free, even though you spent 500 hours writing and designing it
Hmm. That sounds suspiciously like capitalism. The Marxist position is "from each according to their ability and to each according to their need."
So, "From each according to their ability to produce wolf erotica; to each according to their need to consume wolf erotica."
But here we're getting far afield from uncool conservative beliefs.
― LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
let's say there is a great need to consume wolf erotica, but the person/people who have the greatest ability to produce wolf erotica do not have the resources to produce as much wolf erotica as there is a desire for
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
so, we would either need to deprive some consumers of wolf erotica who really need it, or ... we need to provide additional resources to the producers of wolf erotica so that everyone who needs wolf erotica can have it
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link
or ... we determine who needs the wolf erotica the most and those who don't need it as much can have something else ... like walrus erotica
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link
and as a community we need to convince those who had to make do with the walrus erotica to be content with having the less desirable product and not engage in class warfare against those who were able to obtain the more desirable wolf erotica
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link
― sarahell
before you had those words out of your mouth chuck tingle had written five novels of walrus erotica
the deciding factor isn't wolf vs. walrus, but how deeply the erotica resonates with the consumer
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
and this is another issue with the community democratically deciding things -- and it gets into the identity politics stuff that a lot of leftists struggle with. ... let's say there are members of the community that would really like more diversity in the wolf erotica produced -- wolves that aren't white and grey, wolf erotica that isn't heteronormative or that is predominantly about wolfpenis being dominant ... well the majority of the community might be just fine with the current wolf erotica. And the current producers of the wolf erotica aren't that good at or comfortable with creating more diverse wolf erotica ... do we redistribute resources in order to produce more diverse wolf erotica and train queer-friendly wolf erotica producers in the art of wolf erotica production, even if that means a reduction in the quantity or quality of wolf erotica produced overall?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
and it is not unlikely at the community meetings that the more heteronormative wolfpenis dominant fans might use their privilege and numbers to make the marginalized wolf erotica fans be less assertive of their needs.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link
I didn't mean to start some all small business lives matter thing, I mean of course there are good and ethical small business ownersI didn't mean to suggest otherwise or suggest that any family members or friends anyone might have are unethical. I know personally good small business owners.but as a whole it's not all your cool friend who has a vintage store, it's more guys named Rick from Orlando who own lawn care service and just added a fourth F150 to their fleet and own a pontoon boat and pay their workers shit.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link
pretty sure mh is also familiar with Rick from Orlando ... and yeah ... there are a lot of Ricks from Orlando ... and the thing that Kate posted upthread about "power reveals" is really interesting to me. ... Part of where I'm coming from is working with small business owners trying to do the best with limited resources. ... Scarcity often makes people do bad things -- like what mh was saying about systemic problems and things like health insurance being tied to employment, when it would be easier if this was something provided by the government as basic welfare for its people as human beings.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link
I feel like someone has to keep the pontoon industry afloat so the occasional non-douche can own one
― solo scampito (mh), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link
also, Rick from Orlando is probably paying alimony to his ex-wife and has kids with substance abuse and mental health issues, partially derived from having shitty ass Rick from Orlando as a dad.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link
not all pontoon owners are douchebags, but many douchebags are pontoon owners
except my dad’s coworker Gary. Gary owns a cigarette boat that he uses in the Ozarks. mega-douchebag.
― solo scampito (mh), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link
where did Neanderthal go ... he probably has met the actual Rick from Orlando!
Most Orlando business owners are named Deke and will probably be cancelled by next week.
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
my dad’s name is Rick and he is a small business owner
― solo scampito (mh), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
Orlando actually has a ton of shitty Trump gun humping dickflap owners running the bars here. Except for the downtown Irish pub
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
xp - is he never gonna give you up?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
One of whom took over a struggling bar that my friend had karaoke DJed at for 20+ years and they fired her so they could hire some young people with illegal bootleg karaoke files that would accept less money
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link
I’m still relatively glad my friend didn’t buy a small town bar last year, for so, so many reasons
― solo scampito (mh), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link
a friend of mine is a member of a worker-owned co-op restaurant and bar ... it has drama and problems
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
but nowhere near as bad as the one a few blocks up that was owned by a pedophile who fled Minnesota for here and then fled the country ... that place finally closed
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
but my friend's place hosted events for a leftist magazine which subsequently shut down after one of the editors was called out as a rapist
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
the magazine not the bar ... but they got called out for being/having been aligned with the magazine and the rapist
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
wait weren't we talking about wolf erotica?
― DJI, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link
i feel like the ultimate uncool conservative belief is that Rick from Orlando is actually a great guy ... but we can go back to wolf erotica if you want
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
sarahell at 5:26 8 Jul 20but nowhere near as bad as the one a few blocks up that was owned by a pedophile who fled Minnesota for here and then fled the country ... that place finally closedgod, literal fucking demon that guy
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link
I have a lot of Rick's from my small town that I grew up in, some are good and some are bad
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
i still can't believe he had the audacity, as a convicted pedophile, to name his bar "Small Wonder" -- like ... whoa dude.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link
I know a Rick that pumped a lot of money into restoring an old abandoned gridiron so that it could host a youth flag football tournament last May that was looking for a new home.
they adorned it Rick's Spring Field
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link
ooooooooooooh!!!!!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link
didn't know that Small Wonder detail, jfc
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link
personally offended by yerac's choice of hypothetical
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
I take no position on wolf erotica but I assume most people come by their hate and distrust of small business owners as a class (if not necessarily all of them as individuals) honestly, such as by working for a bunch of them. I know I did!
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link
A friend who I’ve not seen in years is a real anarchist on IG yet also says he will ruin any business if he finds out that they don’t have Narcan on site. He also believes that he deserves the health insurance that public school teachers receive now that he has to home school his kid. Am I out of my mind?
― Yelploaf, Thursday, 9 July 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link
Not sure how you being out of your mind has anything to do with your acquaintance’s pretty normal opinions.
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 9 July 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link
In the context of revealing my uncool conservative beliefs I think he’s completely wrong.
― Yelploaf, Thursday, 9 July 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link
nobody is “homeschooling”. what parents are doing could be charitably described as “holding on for dear life”. that said, everyone deserves good health insurance.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 July 2020 07:53 (three years ago) link
Everyone deserves good health insurance
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link