names have been changed to protect the man-Karen
― mh, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link
🎶but I do knowwwww man-Karen🎶
― we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link
College shouldn't be free.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
(I don't know if this is really a conservative opinion because I think public college tuition should be a third of what it is now and that state government support should make up most of the difference)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
(It's definitely uncool though)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
You’re right, free Universities are where it’s at.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
i saw Ted Cruz called a Karen online because of his need to criticize the 1619 Project.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link
I feel like I missed something there, Andrew Sullivan was throwing a shit fit about it, but I couldn't really understand
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link
some people think america is good but actually, it is bad
― silby, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:57 (four years ago) link
"don't call attention to the genocidal ravages of colonialism and chattel slavery! america's good"
― silby, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link
hmm, why would a right-wing piece of shit not like writing regarding the legacy of slavery
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link
Any argument against the 1619 Project should be met with fire.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link
“Karen” was a term created *specifically by Black women* to talk about white women’s interpersonal + state violence against us and our communities: calling the police on us for getting coffee, threatening to have us fired, talking down to us at work (where we’re now “essential”).— alicia sanchez gill. (@aliciasanchez) April 5, 2020
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 07:45 (four years ago) link
Per Luvvie Ajayi, the progression is Becky > Karen > Susan.
https://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/2020/04/caucasity-karen-becky-susan.html
― Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 11:27 (four years ago) link
it's interesting that treesh identifies this as a conservative opinion bc it treats gen x liberal centrist feminism as conservative, which for rhetorical/dialectical purposes it often is, and then i saw this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXVlEMdVcAETEiB?format=jpg&name=900x900
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 13:25 (four years ago) link
tbf noone is ever mean to posh men
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link
most men (esp. cis-het white men) are over-sensitive to criticism and need to "man up" -- if they received the same privilege push-back as white women do on the reg, they would either cry, try to cancel the internet, or else shoot a bunch of people
― sarahell, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
otm
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link
a challenger approaches
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXW_wrpU0AAEV1e?format=png&name=240x240
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
is she a jogger y or n?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link
I have seen evidence that "Karen" has already made the jump from woke Twitterites to broke Facebook whites.― 🔫 (peace, man), Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:00 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
― 🔫 (peace, man), Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:00 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
"Karen" definitely means the person who narced on you for not wearing a mask and standing too close to people out in public now.
― peace, man, Monday, 25 May 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link
according to who? you mean on facebook?
― Evan, Monday, 25 May 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link
Pretty sure it now means absolutely nothing coherent
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 25 May 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
What is this "Karen" thing?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
I mean of course xp
― silby, Monday, 25 May 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
the life cycle of slang:
black trans women invent a slang term to mean something specific
white gays co-opt it, bringing it into the mainstream while diluting its original meaning
white people in general exhaust all signification of the term completely in the course of two weeks
the Charmin twitter says "bae" or whatever
― silby, Monday, 25 May 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link
I pretty much now will not use any slang I heard recently at all because this process doesn't need my participation
― silby, Monday, 25 May 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
uncool conservative belief: white people shouldn't use slang terms they just heard b/c it's either misused appropriated black queer/trans slang (bae, woke, Karen, slay, yass) or it's been invented by online white supremacist reactionaries (incel, cuck, simp, SJW)
― silby, Monday, 25 May 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
that belief isn't uncool, it's poggers
― imago, Monday, 25 May 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link
"white people shouldn't say "woke" or "SJW"' is anything but a conservative belief. There is no conservative belief about what white people should say except "Any suggestion that white people shouldn't say just what they like is the real racism."
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 25 May 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link
My uncool conservative belief is that there is probably very little public health benefit to wearing masks outdoors unless you are going to be in an unusually crowded setting for a long period of time.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 25 May 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
mask wearing is a signal that you are taking this seriously and are unlikely to get in someone else's face, thus contributing to general social order.
as to the science behind my face bandana, i'm guessing "better than nothing" is likely accurate but - given the available options - the former is likely more important than the latter just now.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link
I don't live in the kind of metropolis where I'm going to bump into six or ten or twenty-five people on sidewalks, yet our county requires us to wear masks in enclosed public spaces.
Wearing the mask outdoors signifies that you care about the social compact.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
I guess my uncool conservative belief is that I'm skeptical about the whole Karen origin on black twitter thing. I've not heard that anywhere but here. Light research suggests that it came from a reddit user that was complaining about his ex who was literally named Karen and the meme stemmed from that. Maybe a coincidence?
― Evan, Monday, 25 May 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link
― Evan, Monday, May 25, 2020 8:30 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Yes. Every time a post pops up criticizing the general public for not social distancing, there rises a chorus of "Karen!"
― peace, man, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:54 (four years ago) link
I get the social signalling aspect and think it has real value, but where I live, I feel like this is taken care of by the fact that mask-wearing indoors (at least at the grocery store, which is the only place I've been indoors) is universal, even though not mandated by the state.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link
my uncool conservative belief is that ppl shouldn’t buy into misogynist stereotypes like “Karen” in the first place
― trapped out the barndo (crĂĽt), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link
white feminist is a slur
― no (Left), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link
10^9 is a milliard. 10^12 is a billion.
― imago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link
ok grandpa
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:02 (four years ago) link
1 x duck is a mallard. 1 x chicken broth is a bullion.
― I bless Claire Danes down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link
I'm skeptical about the whole Karen origin on black twitter thing
can someone give some more info on the queer/poc origins of karen? i feel like i've been seeing this meme slowly evolve for the past decade on places like r3dd1t
― diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link
my understanding was that it was just an evolution of the "can i speak to the manager haircut" meme
― diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link
― imago, Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:37 PM (two hours ago)
imago start saying "crore" imo
― silby, Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link
lol maybe
― imago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link
I just need to say this somewhere without derailing a good thread - I hate the lofty, self-righteous, self-serious rhetorical tone that every single fucking person adopts on twitter and facebook when they talk about BLM. I hate how every single fucking person feels like they need to make a big dramatic speech on it. I guess the "performativeness" is part of what I hate, and that's not even a conservative critique, I just find it really grating when people do that soaring speechifying thing.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
this is THIS
THAT IS THAT
LISTEN
LEARN
PRAY
WALK
THINK
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
fwiw social media posts scolding people for not wearing masks are pretty performative, seldom seem interested in persuading people so much as wallowing in their own righteousness. I wear a mask and they still rankle. Tho this might be an US/UK thing, less people obnoxiously proud of not wearing them here.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 5 June 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
yeah I find that irritating too - "I WAS JUST AT X PARK AND SO MANY PEOPLE WERE NOT WEARING MASKS!" as if just to say "humanity is doomed by its stupidity and I am above it."
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
look, i dunno. people are freaked out and frightened and i don't blame anybody for reaching for whatever tools they feel they need even if they're super sanctimonious. better that than nothing.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link