Reveal Your Uncool Conservative Beliefs Here

take your shirts off and we'll see

Not crazy talk about DOA, flopson. I haven't read it. Alfred is crazy talking about the Neapolitan novels.

Don't think flopson is v conservative tbh. Mordy and darraghmac differently (complementarily?) conservative

my impression is flopson is pretty bullish on capitalism

Hi horseshoe obv

Mordy'a political alignment is roughly "stoner Commentary"

hi darraghmac!

i'm more religious than commentary

I'm more grumbly and arguey but I'm quite nice rly iirc

I do mean that i was sat there watching them do this while typing that post. I asked them not to fwiw

I am very lenient on criminal offenses against property unless they're against my property, and then I wish caning was allowed

i am sorry those kids broke your windows, darraghmac.

I'll try not to let it inform my views in the longer run :#

Someone else work up a fenestra/final straw joke, I'm indisposed

who is most conservative ilxor poster btwn me flopson + deems

You're not conservative, Mordy.

what about aesthetically?

lol. i enjoy this thread. sarahell is terrifying in it, though.

― horseshoe, Sunday, April 2, 2017 7:23 AM (five hours ago)

the first couple posts are examples based on the source of the image that starts the thread, not my personal beliefs

ok except for the one about there being too many lazy people, which I do sincerely believe.

who is most conservative ilxor poster btwn me flopson + deems

― Mordy, Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:02 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm not familiar with either of your political opinions but my impression was that neither of you were remotely conservative (although in d's case i am so rarely able to parse his posts)

my impression is flopson is pretty bullish on capitalism

― Mordy, Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:10 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk i'm a pretty plain vanilla lib(eral)/socdem. twitter made me hate Socialists more than i otherwise would and sometimes it is 'necessary' to 'defend' liberal democracy from the idiotic heights reached in the puritanical arms race by its most idealistic critics. i definitely draw a line somewhere far before Actual Communism (which a lot of leftists prefer to leave intentionally blurred until pressed), and moreover think marxism and other systematic analyses of capitalism or neoliberalism are often an evasive tactic or abdication of intellectual and political responsibility; a cynical way to adopt a lackadaisical position on the particulars of feasible/pragmatic (if imperfect) solutions to social problems by saying, ah, well to really solve that you'd need to take down Capitalism. Marx had some great bars but the labor theory of value and historical materialism are crap. i do kind of wish everyone would accept that we are quibbling over the details of the mixed economy (details which are hugely important!), preferably sometime before graduating from college, stop the grandstanding about Capitalism, and just say what they want

i'm not giving up on the Neapolitan series yet but there was nothing remotely approaching the fire and brimstone of Days of Abandonment in volume 1

...you know that scene in 30 Rock where Liz and Jenna are hashing out their issues in front of Jack Donaghy, and he's like "This is boring. I'm bored now"? I wonder if that phenomenon explains men being bored by the Neapolitan novels. sorry if that makes me an asshole to wonder; i do genuinely wonder it.

Dmac what u do w those thugs is u put them in some dirty/trashy/poor neighbourhood or somewhere where the murder rate is high and they do community service (pick up trash/sweep)

Second attempt and u incarcerate them

Third attempt and u give em the death penalty

Theyre already a burden to the tax system as it is, might as well make them work for the glorious prison food they so eagerly want

ouch! i wasn't bored by My Brilliant Friend, far from it. but DoA was one of the best reading experiences i've had; stayed up all night to read the final scene, felt it reverberate for days. never read anything so dripping with rage and frustration, i can only imagine what it's like in the original italian! so naturally that's the one i would recommend to Mordy (or anyone)

It was unfair of me to speculate. I don't doubt that Days of Abandonment is great! The neapolitan novels are the most remarkable recent fiction I have read. But female friendship is intrinsically fascinating to me.

who is most conservative ilxor poster btwn me flopson + deems

― Mordy, Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:02 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

deems > you > flopson

poll

Ya but who is most conservative

poll

― flopson, Sunday, April 2, 2017 1:50 PM (forty minutes ago)

^ classic neo-liberal response

the correct answer is "duel"

Markets will decide

The word "truel" was introduced in Martin Shubik's 1964 book Game Theory and Related Approaches to Social Behavior, page 43, and independently in Richard Epstein's 1967 book Theory of Gambling and Statistical Logic, page 343.

Disappointed that's not a cruel truth tbb

How does Game Theory and Related Approaches to Social Behavior compare to those Ferrante books?

Maybe this would be better for "controversial opinion" thread than here, but since we're talking fidelity/infidelity: I think people mostly don't cheat from healthy relationships.

Nobody "steals" anybody's man, or woman. If you got "stolen," it's because you were stealable. If you're monogamously minded and your relationship is working for you, you can generally resist temptation. If you're not monogamously minded, you probably shouldn't enter into monogamous situations.

idk. sometimes people lose sight of their priorities and do selfish things.

if you're in a committed relationship it's probably a good idea not to spend a lot of alone time w/ someone who shares your spouse's gender

sorry, this isn't the argue with uncool conservative beliefs thread

where do we keep that one

Literally every other thread iirc

Ha truthbomb

I'm sure there's been quite a bit of arguing above.

I didn't oppose Rudy Giuliani's Times Square "clean up," or, rather, I saw it as inevitability.

Watching Asghar Farhadi's The Salesman today made me think of Mordys claim about no good literature after 1945. Because once upon a time, Farhadi would be one of the worlds biggest writers, but people like him now work in cinema. And The Salesman could really have been a very good book, great plot, interesting characters, an intriguing meta-layer. And cinematically, it's ok as well, and a worthy Oscar-winner. It would have been a better book, though, of a kind that isn't there anymore.

Those books are there, just not being written in English for the most part

Well, my example is Iranian, so... :)

The difference between untreated ADHD and incompetence + stupidity is unimportant for practical purposes.

if I read you right that isn't far from my professional position

i have adhd and i agree with that

practical = success in school, especially in the workplace

It's impressive reading the symptoms of ADHD and how closely they align with symptoms of stupidity

this is why my work group switched to a task system we can check -- people request things, we have a window to respond, and any communication is captured there instead of emailing a single person, them saying "oh yeah I'll look at that" and then completely brushing it off

setting up shit like that is, to me, also proactively creating a way to work around ADHD-style lack of focus

I am phenomenally bad at using systems like this, and I know I've looked like an idiot in the past for doing that exact email thing and completely forgetting their request. On a personal level instead of institutional, there's an entire cult of "getting things done" tools and books and I swear, half of it is just forcing people who can't concentrate on shit to organize

can't these people just be eliminated from the workforce and given jobs that are the equivalent of cows grazing in a field?