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there needs to be a word for the cycle of denial, anxiety, frustration and acceptance we go through when made aware of new inclusive/pc terminology lol

I'm pretty cool about accepting these and suspicious of people who habitually refuse given the minimal effort it takes but I do sometimes get the (possibly reactionary) sense that too much energy is being spent on inventing and policing terminology that isn't particularly different to the old terms. I'm thinking of the time I said on here that I didn't really use the phrase "person of colour" as I find it a bit silly and awkward (which I only brought up cause ppl were acting horrified that some dummy had used the term "person of ethnicity" which is an identical construction) and I was straight up scolded by a white woman about how actually it's the preferred term among activists, actually

Or again recently when someone told off a (poc) poster for using the terms "coloured" and "ethnic", presumably as opposed to the permitted acronyms poc and bme & it's like what the fuck do you think the c and e stand for genius?

I get that there's often other value than inclusivity here - provocation, cultural shibboleths, narc of sd - just not sure it's always worth it

i think in general there's a pretty poor understanding of digital privacy and its implications among the general public, particularly the idea that it's an absolute, either something is "private" or not. i'm super amazed that people will disclose information to advertisers they don't trust the government with.

lol my church youth group was quite small, all male, and any erotic energy was sublimated

― ogmor, Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:35 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they just weren't that into you

tbh I own books and save articles titled "dread exhibition" and "dread networks" and love music that embraces that feeling while treeship seems to be relatively cheerful, head-in-sand, sharing articles everyone can halfheartedly disdain while slowly shaking collective heads and ho-humming and bonding over how things ideally could be

― mh 😏, Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:57 AM (eighteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I conservatively wish that i actually embodied this caricature.

sometimes I wish I could still be religious. i was brought up in a Catholic school run by a Franciscan order and they were pretty cool, they were hardcore about compassion and social justice and lived it. i became an atheist at 13 cuz the whole subjective/community faith ≠ objective reality thing that i've never been able to resolve.

I think my personal quality of life would probably be better if I were religious and part of a progressive religious community, but I can't get past the belief thing.

Have u considered Judaism

cannot recommend the application process at this time

Are they not cross-training mohels on anesthesiology yet

Oh here's an uncool conservative belief, I'm glad my genitals were modified as part of a ritual symbolizing my family's religious beliefs.

well when you put it like that...

I suspect that pornography actually is psychically harmful, and I dislike the extremes to which sexuality has been commodified in our society (although the second part is more from a Marxist than conservative POV).

But then liberalism likes to pretend that everything not liberal is conservative.

The problem is that most of the anti-porn discourse out there is terrible and comes from the wrong place and puts you in league with gross people.

Marxism would prob have pornos imo

Pornography in the Soviet Union[edit]
Pornography in the Soviet Union was largely suppressed until the final years of the USSR. According to The Pornography and Erotica Debate: USSR, sex in general was viewed as "a wasteful consumer of energies better devoted to the building of Communism." Genrikh Yagoda, the third head of the NKVD, was accused during his trial (besides espionage and high treason) of storing a great number of pornographic films and pictures. Such accusations were also faced by Nikolai Yezhov, who followed Yagoda. More recently, possession could get up to 3 years in prison, or a 3000 ruble fine. The 1988 Soviet film Malenkaya Vera was the first to feature a sex scene. The resolution on Glasnost stated, "Glasnost must not be used...[to] disseminate pornography" but by September 1989, calendars of topless women for the year 1990 were being sold in Moscow.[1]

i agree w/gbx's post upthread

guys just literally dont ever do cocaine unless you are comfortable with the fact that ppl's heads got cut off in order for you to talk too loud at a party about your stupid ideas

― jason waterfalls (gbx)

yeah completely agree with that, don't see it as conservative though, more like bad/contradictory thinking from people who think they're left-leaning.

yeah i guess it's an instance where conservative schoolmarming and more leftish social concerns overlap on a venn diagram of anti-drug beliefs.

Otoh I bet the overlap between people politically serious enough to boycott companies with bad ethical
practices and cocaine users is small.

I str8 up h8 the dutch

While I understand the political calculations informing the use of "undocumented" and support nationalizing most of these immigrants, I still get irritated when "illegal" isn't used. They broke the law, albeit a misdemeanor by not having papers.

is the objection not that the person may have committed an illegal act but the term "illegal" is used, in perpetuum to describe their personhood?

there's no way to know

i was in the unfortunate case of dealing with us immigration and someone who could no longer reside in the country legally -- she gained entrance legally and the only reason her residential status switched to 'illegal' was because us immigration is the biggest piece of fucking shit i've ever encountered

'undocumented' is just giving people the benefit of the doubt that they may be here illegally for reasons out of their control. that's not to say a lot of people didn't immigrate to the us illegally, but it's just tricky using a blanket statement to describe what varies almost case by case

actually, undocumented doesn't sound like someone is judging the reason you are still in the country or how you gained entrance, which is fine by me

Part of the objection to "illegal immigrant" is that it modifies the person rather than the act. It sounds like it's supposed to imply "bad person." Of course, you could make the same argument about "criminal" as a noun.

eloquently said!

thanks, y'all

I str8 up h8 the dutch

― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, September 2, 2016 9:42 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thats not what you whispered in my ear last night iirc

This is not why I have you the WiFi code

What kind of belief is "bring back conscription" if it includes public service jobs in addition to military duty? Is that conservative and uncool?

i think it sounds collectivist and great. would have been way better than how i spent the years between 18 and 22, that is, learning to become a narcissist at liberal arts college

Man, fuck conscription. I spent four months underpaid at a tv station, had to wait a whole year before I could go to college. But that's not the worst of it, the worst was the final year of high school, where everyone was making plans for what they wanted to afterwards, and I couldn't plan anything because I 1) am a man and 2) started highschool quite young, only turned 18 in third year, so went to the draft in the spring, during exams, while most of the men in my class went in second grade.

Fuck conscription. It's bullshit and it fucks up young people's life in so many ways.

Oh, no, you know what's the fucking worst about conscription? In Denmark, education is free, and most people take a long time finishing it. It's not that unusual to finish college in your thirties. So the government floated the idea to give people a bonus if they got done with college six years after finishing highschool. And I wouldn't have qualified BECAUSE I WAS FUCKING DRAFTED!!!

I mean, they didn't do it, and who cares. But fuck conscription, seriously. Fucking fuck conscription.

I don't know any vegans who use cocaine but then again I don't live in California

A tv station

people that railed against that Wells Fargo ad ("Yesterday - Actor, today - botanist") were overreacting cos acting is a crappy way to make a living and half the 'actor' friends of mine who were upset about it have corporate careers.

and Rent is about selfish Bohemians who think everybody owes them something.

re: conscription, hard to imagine a bigger voluntary waste of welfare and liberty than arbitrarily imposing that young adults not do whatever the f they want

If I had been conscripted instead of enlisting I would have come out with half of my college education already completed, assuming I chose to matriculate in a degree program similar to what I had trained for. This doesn't work for all military jobs, of course, or for all majors. As it was I went in with 2+ years of credits completed and finished the rest while I was in; got my B.A. the month before my enlistment ended.

I really appreciate Fred's perspective. I think maybe my truly uncool conservative belief here is that young people and their parents need to have a more open mind about military service, like, people who are not from families with a service history should all strongly consider signing on to be a perfectly good and worthwhile thing to do and not some dumb risky shit that's only for poor kids and ne'er do wells. I would really like it if military time was commonplace enough that people would stop being all ostentatiously fucking grateful about it. Sorry not sorry, that shit gets on my last nerve.

there's a left-wing argument for conscription - gives middle + upper class families more of a stake in questions of war

I would really like it if military time was commonplace enough that people would stop being all ostentatiously fucking grateful about it.

there were Vets outside the Def Leppard show I just went to asking for courtesy tickets to the show for vets and kept saying "you're welcome" with a sneer to people who walked by them, it was a bit offputting

i don't feel too bad tbh i don't remember asking anybody to fuck up the middle east for me

i'm glad i didn't get conscripted i guess but no conscription is a keystone of endless ambient war, shrug

Denmark only has peacetime conscription. No conscripts went to Iraq, only professional soldiers. It's meant to be defensive, but of course, last time we were invaded, we were defeated in six hours anyway.

people spend way too much energy on getting laid

variation on that: hook-up culture is bad.

copyright rules should be more standardized and enforceable.

This is not so much conservative as straight up racist, but sometimes I think that people with passports from certain countries should not be allowed to open American bank accounts. Particularly Nigerians and to a lesser extent Iranian and Armenian nationals. Individuals from these groups generate a disturbingly high proportion of alerts for unusual transaction activity and are almost never cleared of wrongdoing in the subsequent investigations (e.g. every time their activity gets referred, they are in fact ultimately determined to be doing something fraudulent/illegal).

Their schemes are ALWAYS incredibly complicated, involving numerous relatives, associates, and domestic/foreign shell companies, so the investigations invariably take days to complete. At the end of your 20 hour investigation you will typically find the source of funds is... in order of frequency of occurrence... 1. scammed American elderly people(lottery/romance/whatever); 2. victims of tax fraud ("You owe the IRS $10,000 and must pay us now!"); 3. suspected drug money; 4. money being laundered out of Nigeria (oil/government corruption) and moved everywhere on earth imaginable before being parked in real estate or in an offshore account.

In conclusion, my uncool conservative belief/fantasy/death wish is that Nigerian nationals should not be banked in America. Thank you and good night.

thank you and enjoy your FPs

does that have to do anything with that iranian millionaire living in ohio who was on welfare?

oh did these ripoff artists park their money with Wells Fargo?