Mike Trout needs his own thread

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he is now at 9.4 rwar for the season. his closest competitor is robinson cano, who has played 21 more games, at 6.2. fwar is a bit more circumspect, but still gives him significant lead.

he leads the majors in stolen bases, runs scored and ops+

randal grichuk, whom the angels took one pick ahead of trout, is having a nice season in high-a ball.

this fucking guy.

mookieproof, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

he's probably not gonna top A-Rods ridiculous age 20 season but yeah this is getting stupid

frogbs, Monday, 3 September 2012 04:58 (eleven years ago) link

He's only not going to top it cuz he missed a month (although to be fair to A-Rod he only played 146 games it looks like.)

Totally proves the draft is a complete crapshoot.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 September 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...


kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

...and a triple to go with his homer after two AB. Geez, if he hits for the cycle, you'll have to disown him.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link


prefer 2 more HRs

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

he really is pretty good
i mean, he is definitely probably one of the nice surprises this season, roy material

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

he's in the running for rookie of the year for sure

la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

Ruth of the Year

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

does he have a nickname yet? we need to get on this. his last name is Trout for crissake, this should be low hanging fruit

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

Rainbow and Dizzy are taken

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link


mookieproof, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

too bad he couldn't have played in the same outfield as tim salmon.

omar little, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

or rogers smallmouth-bass

zachylon (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 September 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link

30th dinger

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

first 30/30 rookie

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

Top of the 6th, he's 4-4 with a double, triple, and 3 RBI--off Felix. Unbelievable.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link


Month AL WAR Rank

May 1
June 1
July 1
August 1
September 2

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

he's really fallen off

la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

The Los Angeles Angels renewed the contract of AL Rookie of the Year Mike Trout for $510,000. The salary is $20,000 above the major league minimum.

seems a bit like leaving a $1 tip on a $100 check. there must be ways of saving money that don't involve insulting your best player

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

every player goes through this and they already gave him 1+ mil just to sign. he'll buy a few yachts once he hits arb.

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link

but don't mind me i have trouble treating baseball contracts with the appropriate relativity

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link

If B-R numbers are right, it doesn't look like recent Rookies of the Year have gotten massive bumps in their next season.

I don't know that throwing him an extra $500k this season buys any more loyalty when the time comes for his $200mn contract in a few seasons.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

scratch that - http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/3/4/4062060/mike-trout-salary-los-angeles-angels

increases were quite a bit larger, just not in raw $$$

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

i'm sure he'll do v. well in arbitration and that he'll go wherever the money is when he's a free agent. if the angels had a policy of paying ppl the absolute minimum they had to, then fine. the extra $20k is weird tho.

it's obviously in trout's best interests to play hard and everything. it just seems like a bit more might be warranted in an effort to keep your best player happy and feeling valued.

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link


The record that Mike Trout could threaten is the post-WWII tally for runs scored: 152, collected by Jeff Bagwell in 2000. And Trout could be the first player to score more runs than games played since Rickey Henderson accomplished the feat in 1985.

My first bold prediction for 2013? That he does one or the other. Mike Trout with either score 152+ runs in 2013, or he’ll score more runs than games played.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

jeez, look at the way he rounds first in that second clip. amazing.

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

Bonifacio gif linked in the comments is actually an even crazier looking play.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

i posted that in the angels thread the other day :(

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

B-R has him -9 runs in the field so far!

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

i meant to say OF in the previous post btw, he played left and center iirc

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:11 AM (6 days ago)

An attempt to break this down:


Conclusion: don't expect it to last.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 June 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link

thanks, i was just about to ask if anything's been written about that!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

75mph changeup = line-drive HR to left

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

four hits today

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Noticed that he's almost exactly where he was last year in terms of basic slash stats:

2012 -- .326/.399/.564
2013 -- .320/.399/.560

His HR and SB are down a little, 2B and 3B way up.

clemenza, Friday, 12 July 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

why is there no youtube compilation of mike trout triples?

k3vin k., Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:28 (ten years ago) link

4-4 with 2 walks last night, up to .331/.412/.568 and leads fWAR by 0.4 wins

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 August 2013 10:44 (ten years ago) link

18 walks in his last 10 games

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 August 2013 07:39 (ten years ago) link

David Cameron @DCameronFG
Through age-21 season, by wRC+, Mike Trout is the best hitter of all time, edging out Foxx and Williams.

David Cameron @DCameronFG
That's just hitting. No baserunning, no fielding, just hitting. Trout has been better than Ted Williams at hitting.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

seeing him play next week

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!


Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link


mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link

Angels have to be trying to lock him up for like decade.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fangraphs is much kinder, but even they have him as a neutral defender rather than a huge minus.

anyway OPS above 1.000 now - .333/.424/.580

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:25 (ten years ago) link

just turned 22 yesterday btw

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:34 (ten years ago) link


, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link

nail in the coffin of the angels playoff hopes too

, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

will he still lead MLB in WAR y/n

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

Doubtful with Acuna and Guerrero playing the way they are...Just asking the question makes your point, though.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

At least Mickey Mantle was getting blowjobs under the bleachers when he was injured.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link

wait, what's that

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link

wow! the mick!

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 03:01 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

mike trout is looking forward to this snowstorm

Need models to shift a little west still..we still have time only Wednesday 💪🏻💪🏻

— Mike Trout (@MikeTrout) January 26, 2022

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link

dude loves weather

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:27 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Trout, 30, joined some elite company, as he became the third player in Major League history with at least 1,000 runs, 300 home runs and 200 stolen bases by an age-30 season, joining Willie Mays and Alex Rodriguez. And over the last 60 years, he became the fifth-fastest to 1,000 career runs by games played. It took Trout 1,325 games to reach the milestone and the only players who reached it in fewer games over the last 60 years were Rickey Henderson (1,252), Rodriguez (1,261), Kenny Lofton (1,305) and Albert Pujols (1,306).


clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

Trout, Henderson, Rodriguez, Lofton, Pujols

Lofton was an outstanding player and one of my favorites, growing up, but one of these players does not belong!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

I would agree, although highly underrated, and I think the VC will put him into the HOF one day. One of the players whose greatest season came in the strike year of '94.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

trout putting up that many runs for the Angels of 2012-2022 is pretty incredible on its own

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

I was poking around to see if I could find out how fast Raines got there and came across this:

"Ted Williams is the fastest recorded player in MLB history to score 1,000 runs; he scored his 1,000th run in his 1,097th game." So they seem to have chosen a convenient cut-off point of 60 years--Williams was a lot faster, and I'm guessing Ruth, Hornsby, and some others were too.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

"He became the first player in AL/NL history to hit four game-winning home runs in a single series, according to Stats by STATS."


clemenza, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

been thinking about reviving the old “this team fucking stinks” Mariners thread, pretty sure Trout produced more runs than the entire Mariners offense over the series.

JoeStork, Monday, 20 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

happy 31st

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 August 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Homered in his sixth straight game tonight; record is still eight (Griffey, Mattingly, and the ever-mysterious Dale Long).

clemenza, Sunday, 11 September 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

still the best player in the league

k3vin k., Sunday, 11 September 2022 05:27 (one year ago) link

Even with all the games he missed he's still having an awesome season. I was surprised to see that after yesterday's game, he's somehow up to 33 HR (in less than 100 GP).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 11 September 2022 07:11 (one year ago) link

Seven straight

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

Beat me to it...As great as Bichette has been, he just won player of the week and I'm not sure he should have; I'd have to compare them.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

And then, after almost getting his skull crushed in the 6th, Bichette wins it with a 2-run homer in the 8th.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

In case you were wondering (like they--whoever they is--spend more than seven seconds determining Player of the Week):

Bichette: .500/.529/1.156, 5 HR, 13 RBI
Trout: .450/.500/1.300, 5 HR, 8 RBI

Bichette had many more PA, 34 to 22.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 02:10 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

taking a look at his fangraphs page today...some pretty concerning things here

his walk rate has plummeted to about 10.5% over his last 700 PAs, after having hovered around 18% from 2016 through 2021. his swing rate is at an all-time high (44%), and actually has a below-career average O-swing% and his career highest Z-swing% by a lot (72%)...but he just can't hit the ball like he used to. his O-contact% has been steady at about 60% over the last 3 seasons, after having been about 70% every other year. and his Z-contact% has been about 80% over the last 3 seasons after being about 90% before that

also about an average baserunner over the past 4 seasons after being one of the 5 or so best before that

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:23 (eight months ago) link

sort of surprised there's not more talk about this

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:25 (eight months ago) link

I hope he's able to adjust, he's not having a bad season or anything but obviously it's not up to his usual standards. I really hope he doesn't fall off a cliff like pujols.

omar little, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:42 (eight months ago) link

Possible that he aggravated his back condition in the outfield & is playing through pain? Though haven’t watched the Angels enough to see how he’s been going out there. I guess on any other team they might think about having him DH if it was a serious concern besides the obvious issue with this team.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:56 (eight months ago) link

On July 12, 2022 he had a T5 costovertebral dysfunction (dislocated a rib?). Was kinda brushed off by Angels docs but seems significant... eg, rotational trunk torque. Seems like he's still Mike Trout just at 85-90% of peak.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:59 (eight months ago) link

(xpost) I don't expect him to fall off a cliff; I would guess his aging pattern might be more like maybe Aaron's, where he becomes more of a HR hitter and less of that across-the-board greatest-ever guy. I could see him having more seasons like Aaron's '72-74 (40 HR in 392 AB in '73).

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:03 (eight months ago) link

xp yeah think it’s otm, even a small decline in his abilities & age/mileage etc might show up more given conjunction of those two things

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:07 (eight months ago) link

I see he just tied DiMaggio on the career HR list at 361. 600 would seem to be a very good bet if healthy...if.


clemenza, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:09 (eight months ago) link

he’s going to be an above average player for a while still, but it’s not looking like he’s going to maintain that mays trajectory. which of course was a tough standard to begin with

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:45 (eight months ago) link

if he merely ends up next to mantle, rodriguez, and henderson on the leaderboards, that’s not too bad

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:47 (eight months ago) link

Yeah. Amazingly enough (amaysingly...rimshot), Mays peaked between 31 and 35: bWARS of 10.5, 10.6, 11.0, 11.2, and 9.0. Very atypical; Trout's curve would seem to be more normal--like Mantle's, who slows down around 31.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:31 (eight months ago) link

DiMaggio now in the rear-view mirror.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 May 2023 04:09 (eight months ago) link

Genuinely a great guy.

Trout said players deal with mental issues more than people realize, but now some players have become more comfortable talking about it. That includes A’s reliever Trevor May, who was placed on the injured list with anxiety earlier this season and candidly spoke about his struggles with mental health. Trout’s former teammates Andrelton Simmons and Andrew Heaney have also opened up about mental health struggles in the past.

“You really don't see it when the guys are out there just playing, especially on a baseball field playing the game we love,” Trout said. “You don't know what's happening at home. You don't know what other guys are going through. It’s just about being able to just reach out and talk to people. I think it makes you feel comfortable. And to be able to get help is a big thing.”

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:05 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Angels announce that Mike Trout is going on the IL with a left hamate fracture.

That’s a massive blow for the Angels, who are already dealing with many injuries.

Jo Adell has been called up.

— Sam Blum (@SamBlum3) July 4, 2023


k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 July 2023 19:09 (seven months ago) link

Not much of a bright spot, but that would at least explain the year he's having (as opposed to the start of a sharp decline).

If you type too fast and Google "make trout," here's what you get:


clemenza, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 19:15 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

happy 32nd

mookieproof, Monday, 7 August 2023 20:53 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

here we go

Report: Angels open to trading Mike Trout if he wants out

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 September 2023 20:04 (five months ago) link

Like a guy who's wrongly convicted and gets released on DNA evidence 30 years later. (Absurd hyperbole, obviously--he's been well compensated.)

clemenza, Sunday, 10 September 2023 20:10 (five months ago) link

I mean, I don’t know if I’d want to trade for his contract at this point

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 September 2023 23:10 (five months ago) link

I’d take him

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 11 September 2023 03:40 (five months ago) link

Steve Cohen has entered the chat

buzza, Monday, 11 September 2023 04:51 (five months ago) link

The Angels' incompetence is truly breathtaking.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 11 September 2023 09:11 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

this is great

Over several years I spent ~40 hours at Angels games watching Mike Trout and nothing else. Here's what I learned: https://t.co/Rx2hwsBnbE

— Sam Miller (@SamMillerBB) January 31, 2024

mookieproof, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 17:13 (three weeks ago) link

thx for that

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 20:59 (three weeks ago) link

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