Mike Trout needs his own thread

http://metsmerizedonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/sports-illustrated-253x300.png

he is now at 9.4 rwar for the season. his closest competitor is robinson cano, who has played 21 more games, at 6.2. fwar is a bit more circumspect, but still gives him significant lead.

he leads the majors in stolen bases, runs scored and ops+

randal grichuk, whom the angels took one pick ahead of trout, is having a nice season in high-a ball.

this fucking guy.

he's probably not gonna top A-Rods ridiculous age 20 season but yeah this is getting stupid

He's only not going to top it cuz he missed a month (although to be fair to A-Rod he only played 146 games it looks like.)

Totally proves the draft is a complete crapshoot.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/10/mike-trout-is-first-player-to-reach-10-war-since-barry-bonds

TROUT

...and a triple to go with his homer after two AB. Geez, if he hits for the cycle, you'll have to disown him.

:p

prefer 2 more HRs

he really is pretty good
i mean, he is definitely probably one of the nice surprises this season, roy material

he's in the running for rookie of the year for sure

Ruth of the Year

does he have a nickname yet? we need to get on this. his last name is Trout for crissake, this should be low hanging fruit

Rainbow and Dizzy are taken

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutthroat_trout

too bad he couldn't have played in the same outfield as tim salmon.

or rogers smallmouth-bass

30th dinger

first 30/30 rookie

Top of the 6th, he's 4-4 with a double, triple, and 3 RBI--off Felix. Unbelievable.

MIKE TROUT	

Month	      AL WAR Rank
May	      1
June	      1
July	      1
August	      1
September     2

he's really fallen off

The Los Angeles Angels renewed the contract of AL Rookie of the Year Mike Trout for $510,000. The salary is $20,000 above the major league minimum.

seems a bit like leaving a $1 tip on a $100 check. there must be ways of saving money that don't involve insulting your best player

every player goes through this and they already gave him 1+ mil just to sign. he'll buy a few yachts once he hits arb.

but don't mind me i have trouble treating baseball contracts with the appropriate relativity

If B-R numbers are right, it doesn't look like recent Rookies of the Year have gotten massive bumps in their next season.

I don't know that throwing him an extra $500k this season buys any more loyalty when the time comes for his $200mn contract in a few seasons.

scratch that - http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/3/4/4062060/mike-trout-salary-los-angeles-angels

increases were quite a bit larger, just not in raw $$$

i'm sure he'll do v. well in arbitration and that he'll go wherever the money is when he's a free agent. if the angels had a policy of paying ppl the absolute minimum they had to, then fine. the extra $20k is weird tho.

it's obviously in trout's best interests to play hard and everything. it just seems like a bit more might be warranted in an effort to keep your best player happy and feeling valued.

http://www.billjamesonline.com/mike_trout_runs__games/

The record that Mike Trout could threaten is the post-WWII tally for runs scored: 152, collected by Jeff Bagwell in 2000. And Trout could be the first player to score more runs than games played since Rickey Henderson accomplished the feat in 1985.

My first bold prediction for 2013? That he does one or the other. Mike Trout with either score 152+ runs in 2013, or he’ll score more runs than games played.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20105

jeez, look at the way he rounds first in that second clip. amazing.

Bonifacio gif linked in the comments is actually an even crazier looking play.

will return to LF when Bourjos is activated

http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/5/31/4383614/mike-trout-center-field-left-field-mike-scioscia

i posted that in the angels thread the other day :(

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

B-R has him -9 runs in the field so far!

i meant to say OF in the previous post btw, he played left and center iirc

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:11 AM (6 days ago)

An attempt to break this down:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/36800/why-are-trouts-defensive-numbers-so-bad

Conclusion: don't expect it to last.

thanks, i was just about to ask if anything's been written about that!

75mph changeup = line-drive HR to left

four hits today

Noticed that he's almost exactly where he was last year in terms of basic slash stats:

2012 -- .326/.399/.564
2013 -- .320/.399/.560

His HR and SB are down a little, 2B and 3B way up.

why is there no youtube compilation of mike trout triples?

4-4 with 2 walks last night, up to .331/.412/.568 and leads fWAR by 0.4 wins

18 walks in his last 10 games

David Cameron @DCameronFG
Through age-21 season, by wRC+, Mike Trout is the best hitter of all time, edging out Foxx and Williams.

David Cameron @DCameronFG
That's just hitting. No baserunning, no fielding, just hitting. Trout has been better than Ted Williams at hitting.

seeing him play next week

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

...

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

Angels have to be trying to lock him up for like decade.

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fangraphs is much kinder, but even they have him as a neutral defender rather than a huge minus.

anyway OPS above 1.000 now - .333/.424/.580

just turned 22 yesterday btw

Since betts is still playing and trout is not yes mookie betts is the best player in baseball

*mike trout looks out*

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:45 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

CTRL-F "Morb" delivers.

"Every executive lauded Betts for his incredible talent, and while each one of them would be happy to have the Dodgers superstar patrolling right field for their club, the results were nearly unanimous: Eight executives chose Trout, one took Betts, while the other one called it a draw.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-mookie-betts-best-mlb-player-poll

The Posnanski article has some interesting points (before talking about the value of Betts having a WS ring) - I didn't realize Trout may be physically slowing down a touch. Just the rigors of playing center, or the foot surgery from a couple of seasons ago?

9 G, .414/.564/.828, 271 wRC+, 1.0 fWAR

ffs

lol he has rendon hitting behind him and is still being walked 25% of the time

meanwhile albert is managing a sturdy -0.2fWAR in 6 games

this trout guy does seem to be good though

just hit his sixth homer, leads the league with 267 wRC+ now. I think it’s funny how every year there’s an article about the people who are going to surpass trout and nope, he’s the best and it’s not close

tbf acuña is making a case

trout has a .500+ OBP rn

yeah his BABIP is over .500

Seems like every year there’s also an article saying “...and he finally has a decent team behind him!”

I wonder if he and Connor McDavid ever talk. I don’t know if either of them are household names in the U.S.

he’s the best and it’s not close

If he keeps going like this all season, no question, still the best. But I don't agree with the "not close"--Betts, Acuna, Tatis (if he keeps going), and Soto (weaker in the field) are all close; if Trout were to go back to the level he played at last season, I think he'd be surpassed. I'd hold off on this question right now.

trout  .393/.507/.804, 6 HR, .533 BABIP, 29% K%
acuña  .419/.486/.887, 7 HR, .413 BABIP, 14% K%
buxton .432/.479/.977, 6 HR, .464 BABIP, 21% K%

they're all even in WAR. trout/acuña have played 16 games, buxton only 12

this sort of offense is new for buxton, but if he can maintain even a portion of it, his god-like defense will carry him a long way. (acuña is being dinged for defense thus far)

anyway none of them are likely to carry on like this, but nevertheless i wouldn't say trout is miles ahead

I think the best piece of evidence for how close this is is that, going back to 2016, Betts is tied with Trout for bWAR, 38.2 each. I think most of you prefer Fangraphs: it's Trout 38.7, Betts 34.1 there. But that's still pretty close.

and even that is with trout playing 50 fewer games. the basis of most of the articles I read is the projections which not unfairly assume trout will play less than full seasons, but when he’s suited up he’s still the goat

wild how he’s still in the top 15 in sprint speed, and also how he doesn’t try to steal bases anymore!

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sprint_speed_leaderboard

poor albert

3-3 tonight, welcome back

You'll like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnCJixeLI8

mr injured is injured again ;_;

6-8 weeks, fuck

ugh

nail in the coffin of the angels playoff hopes too

will he still lead MLB in WAR y/n

Doubtful with Acuna and Guerrero playing the way they are...Just asking the question makes your point, though.

At least Mickey Mantle was getting blowjobs under the bleachers when he was injured.

wait, what's that

https://chumley.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/24/Screen-Shot-2018-06-24-at-3.25.06-PM.png

wow! the mick!

mike trout is looking forward to this snowstorm

Need models to shift a little west still..we still have time only Wednesday 💪🏻💪🏻

— Mike Trout (@MikeTrout) January 26, 2022

dude loves weather

Trout, 30, joined some elite company, as he became the third player in Major League history with at least 1,000 runs, 300 home runs and 200 stolen bases by an age-30 season, joining Willie Mays and Alex Rodriguez. And over the last 60 years, he became the fifth-fastest to 1,000 career runs by games played. It took Trout 1,325 games to reach the milestone and the only players who reached it in fewer games over the last 60 years were Rickey Henderson (1,252), Rodriguez (1,261), Kenny Lofton (1,305) and Albert Pujols (1,306).

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-scores-1-000th-career-run

Trout, Henderson, Rodriguez, Lofton, Pujols

Lofton was an outstanding player and one of my favorites, growing up, but one of these players does not belong!

I would agree, although highly underrated, and I think the VC will put him into the HOF one day. One of the players whose greatest season came in the strike year of '94.

trout putting up that many runs for the Angels of 2012-2022 is pretty incredible on its own

I was poking around to see if I could find out how fast Raines got there and came across this:

"Ted Williams is the fastest recorded player in MLB history to score 1,000 runs; he scored his 1,000th run in his 1,097th game." So they seem to have chosen a convenient cut-off point of 60 years--Williams was a lot faster, and I'm guessing Ruth, Hornsby, and some others were too.

"He became the first player in AL/NL history to hit four game-winning home runs in a single series, according to Stats by STATS."

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-homers-5-times-in-series-vs-mariners

been thinking about reviving the old “this team fucking stinks” Mariners thread, pretty sure Trout produced more runs than the entire Mariners offense over the series.

happy 31st

Homered in his sixth straight game tonight; record is still eight (Griffey, Mattingly, and the ever-mysterious Dale Long).

still the best player in the league

Even with all the games he missed he's still having an awesome season. I was surprised to see that after yesterday's game, he's somehow up to 33 HR (in less than 100 GP).

Seven straight

Beat me to it...As great as Bichette has been, he just won player of the week and I'm not sure he should have; I'd have to compare them.

And then, after almost getting his skull crushed in the 6th, Bichette wins it with a 2-run homer in the 8th.

In case you were wondering (like they--whoever they is--spend more than seven seconds determining Player of the Week):

Bichette: .500/.529/1.156, 5 HR, 13 RBI
Trout: .450/.500/1.300, 5 HR, 8 RBI

Bichette had many more PA, 34 to 22.