Mike Trout needs his own thread

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he is now at 9.4 rwar for the season. his closest competitor is robinson cano, who has played 21 more games, at 6.2. fwar is a bit more circumspect, but still gives him significant lead.

he leads the majors in stolen bases, runs scored and ops+

randal grichuk, whom the angels took one pick ahead of trout, is having a nice season in high-a ball.

this fucking guy.

mookieproof, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:09 (six years ago) Permalink

he's probably not gonna top A-Rods ridiculous age 20 season but yeah this is getting stupid

frogbs, Monday, 3 September 2012 04:58 (six years ago) Permalink

He's only not going to top it cuz he missed a month (although to be fair to A-Rod he only played 146 games it looks like.)

Totally proves the draft is a complete crapshoot.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 September 2012 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

TROUT

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 00:11 (six years ago) Permalink

...and a triple to go with his homer after two AB. Geez, if he hits for the cycle, you'll have to disown him.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:11 (six years ago) Permalink

:p

prefer 2 more HRs

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:12 (six years ago) Permalink

he really is pretty good
i mean, he is definitely probably one of the nice surprises this season, roy material

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:23 (six years ago) Permalink

he's in the running for rookie of the year for sure

la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Ruth of the Year

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:27 (six years ago) Permalink

does he have a nickname yet? we need to get on this. his last name is Trout for crissake, this should be low hanging fruit

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Rainbow and Dizzy are taken

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:38 (six years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutthroat_trout

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:41 (six years ago) Permalink

too bad he couldn't have played in the same outfield as tim salmon.

omar little, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:24 (six years ago) Permalink

or rogers smallmouth-bass

zachylon (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 September 2012 04:17 (six years ago) Permalink

30th dinger

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:12 (six years ago) Permalink

first 30/30 rookie

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Top of the 6th, he's 4-4 with a double, triple, and 3 RBI--off Felix. Unbelievable.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 03:57 (six years ago) Permalink

MIKE TROUT

Month AL WAR Rank

May 1
June 1
July 1
August 1
September 2

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

he's really fallen off

la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:42 (six years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

The Los Angeles Angels renewed the contract of AL Rookie of the Year Mike Trout for $510,000. The salary is $20,000 above the major league minimum.

seems a bit like leaving a $1 tip on a $100 check. there must be ways of saving money that don't involve insulting your best player

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

every player goes through this and they already gave him 1+ mil just to sign. he'll buy a few yachts once he hits arb.

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:40 (five years ago) Permalink

but don't mind me i have trouble treating baseball contracts with the appropriate relativity

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:41 (five years ago) Permalink

If B-R numbers are right, it doesn't look like recent Rookies of the Year have gotten massive bumps in their next season.

I don't know that throwing him an extra $500k this season buys any more loyalty when the time comes for his $200mn contract in a few seasons.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:31 (five years ago) Permalink

scratch that - http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/3/4/4062060/mike-trout-salary-los-angeles-angels

increases were quite a bit larger, just not in raw $$$

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm sure he'll do v. well in arbitration and that he'll go wherever the money is when he's a free agent. if the angels had a policy of paying ppl the absolute minimum they had to, then fine. the extra $20k is weird tho.

it's obviously in trout's best interests to play hard and everything. it just seems like a bit more might be warranted in an effort to keep your best player happy and feeling valued.

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2013 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.billjamesonline.com/mike_trout_runs__games/

The record that Mike Trout could threaten is the post-WWII tally for runs scored: 152, collected by Jeff Bagwell in 2000. And Trout could be the first player to score more runs than games played since Rickey Henderson accomplished the feat in 1985.

My first bold prediction for 2013? That he does one or the other. Mike Trout with either score 152+ runs in 2013, or he’ll score more runs than games played.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2013 20:03 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

jeez, look at the way he rounds first in that second clip. amazing.

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Bonifacio gif linked in the comments is actually an even crazier looking play.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:37 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i posted that in the angels thread the other day :(

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:11 (five years ago) Permalink

B-R has him -9 runs in the field so far!

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:01 (five years ago) Permalink

i meant to say OF in the previous post btw, he played left and center iirc

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:38 (five years ago) Permalink

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:11 AM (6 days ago)

An attempt to break this down:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/36800/why-are-trouts-defensive-numbers-so-bad

Conclusion: don't expect it to last.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 June 2013 10:53 (five years ago) Permalink

thanks, i was just about to ask if anything's been written about that!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:28 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

75mph changeup = line-drive HR to left

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink

four hits today

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:14 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Noticed that he's almost exactly where he was last year in terms of basic slash stats:

2012 -- .326/.399/.564
2013 -- .320/.399/.560

His HR and SB are down a little, 2B and 3B way up.

clemenza, Friday, 12 July 2013 13:23 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

why is there no youtube compilation of mike trout triples?

k3vin k., Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:28 (five years ago) Permalink

4-4 with 2 walks last night, up to .331/.412/.568 and leads fWAR by 0.4 wins

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 August 2013 10:44 (five years ago) Permalink

18 walks in his last 10 games

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 August 2013 07:39 (five years ago) Permalink

David Cameron @DCameronFG
Through age-21 season, by wRC+, Mike Trout is the best hitter of all time, edging out Foxx and Williams.

David Cameron @DCameronFG
That's just hitting. No baserunning, no fielding, just hitting. Trout has been better than Ted Williams at hitting.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:29 (five years ago) Permalink

seeing him play next week

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:45 (five years ago) Permalink

...

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Angels have to be trying to lock him up for like decade.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fangraphs is much kinder, but even they have him as a neutral defender rather than a huge minus.

anyway OPS above 1.000 now - .333/.424/.580

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:25 (five years ago) Permalink

just turned 22 yesterday btw

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:34 (five years ago) Permalink

the game just doesn't lend itself to that kind of thing. lebron's on the floor for 40 minutes a game; trout gets to bat once every 45 minutes

but yeah, it's baseball's responsibility, not his. and maybe if baseball hadn't spent the last 15 years promoting the yankees-red sox show, people would care about the angels*

*probably not, but still

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 18:49 (four months ago) Permalink

Today, the #Angels released the following statement on OF Mike Trout: pic.twitter.com/xFLURtZ4bT

— Angels (@Angels) July 18, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:34 (four months ago) Permalink

damn right imo, fuck being a workaholic esp for your bosses

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:37 (four months ago) Permalink

update btw
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/betts-ramirez-trout-and-the-blistering-pace/

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

Love that Angels statement, that's a real fuck-you to Manfred.

a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:43 (four months ago) Permalink

Weather enthusiast!

Andy K, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 23:04 (four months ago) Permalink

that statement rules. manfred seems like a complete ass.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 23:13 (four months ago) Permalink

The heck Mike Trout can do more really? More commercials? More twitter beefs? He's everything baseball fans ever wanted from a player, dude is the Ty Cobb of this century, that can't be insufficient.

The majors could do with a less 'unwritten rules' and pitching clock, sure but the voices that wish baseball was more like basketball are infuriating, I want baseball to be baseball (and basketball to be basketball).

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 19 July 2018 03:53 (four months ago) Permalink

this guy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dib6XDvWkAAXS8V.jpg:small

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:46 (four months ago) Permalink

let normies be normies imo

k3vin k., Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:58 (four months ago) Permalink

should have ended it with #FlyEaglesFly

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:20 (four months ago) Permalink

the game just doesn't lend itself to that kind of thing. lebron's on the floor for 40 minutes a game; trout gets to bat once every 45 minutes

otm. not only that but the difference between an average player and a superstar is what, 2 extra hits a week?

other thing is that the Angels have not yet made the postseason w/ Trout and aren't exactly an exciting team in any other aspect (the injured Ohtani aside). baseball's really the only sport where the best player in the league can fail to make the postseason year in and year out.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:21 (four months ago) Permalink

they lost a division series to KC in 2014

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:25 (four months ago) Permalink

Trout went 1-for-12 with a homer

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:26 (four months ago) Permalink

whoa I totally forgot about that

frogbs, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:31 (four months ago) Permalink

Most years the division series events are gone from my brain by December.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:32 (four months ago) Permalink

the angels roster is actually really fun imo. ohtani obviously. kole calhoun is having a horrendous year at the plate but is a really good defensive right fielder. maldonado and simmons and kinsler are elite defenders

k3vin k., Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:14 (four months ago) Permalink

my friend wanted to "pick a team" to get himself really into baseball this year and i recommended him this team, for all of their faults (and there are a lot of them!) there is a lot to enjoy as a fan. p much everything you said. thought it was the perfect team to get into mlb with -- a lot of fun with a LOOOOT of agony on the side.

challops trap house (Will M.), Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:28 (four months ago) Permalink

slugging .347 in july, ew

k3vin k., Saturday, 21 July 2018 19:33 (four months ago) Permalink

More on Trout-Manfred:

http://www.si.com/mlb/2018/07/24/mike-trout-marketing

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:36 (four months ago) Permalink

...of the 100 most followed athletes on Twitter just one is a baseball player: Tim Tebow

francisF, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 16:29 (four months ago) Permalink

My favorite line: "Forget ranking among LeBron James and J.J. Watt; Trout is supposedly just as recognizable as onetime NBA rebounding ace Kenneth Faried."

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 17:02 (four months ago) Permalink

trout this year became the second player with 5 20/20 seasons before the age of 27, darryl strawberry (!) the other

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 July 2018 02:53 (four months ago) Permalink

darryl could play, you punk kids

mookieproof, Saturday, 28 July 2018 03:03 (four months ago) Permalink

oh I know, but I definitely had to check bbref to make sure mays wasn't missing from that list. crazy!

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 July 2018 03:04 (four months ago) Permalink

had to check bbref to make sure mays wasn't missing from that list.

As a 22 year old, Mays took a year off (would have been his 3rd MLB season) to serve his country, but more importantly didn't start stealing bases until he was 24.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 28 July 2018 03:41 (four months ago) Permalink

sadly no mention of sidney crosby, whose birthday is also today

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:18 (four months ago) Permalink

I saw one!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:19 (four months ago) Permalink

sadly no mention of my mom, whose birthday is also today

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 23:10 (four months ago) Permalink

jaymcbday.xlsx

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 00:51 (four months ago) Permalink

a lot of shaky arguments in that essay but yeah, trout is the shit

k3vin k., Wednesday, 8 August 2018 02:46 (four months ago) Permalink

pretty much

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 02:48 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah that's kind of silly

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 02:50 (four months ago) Permalink

I've been assuming the past month or so that Trout would again finish second for MVP behind Betts. But it's starting to look like Martinez, even as a DH, will take enough votes from Betts (Ramirez, too) that Trout will win. Usual disclaimer: just handicapping here, not advocating/opining.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:32 (four months ago) Permalink

It’s gonna be an interesting decision, for sure.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:44 (four months ago) Permalink

hoping there are enough "best player, period" voters and the fact that Boston may win the East by more than the WAR of any of their players

Jose Ramirez, too

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:08 (four months ago) Permalink

I don’t think the best player should necessarily win the MVP. trout, betts, and ramirez are all equally deserving this year imo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:01 (four months ago) Permalink

it's an individual award. it should go to the best individual.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:06 (four months ago) Permalink

no it goes to the player who had the best season

k3vin k., Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:55 (four months ago) Permalink

assuming these numbers hold I'd be surprised if Trout got it. his team is almost certainly going to miss the playoffs, while the other two practically have it clinched, with Betts being a part of what may be the greatest Boston Red Sox team ever. plus Trout is always in the conversation (plus he's won it twice), and they generally like to get fresh faces in there (remember the "he'll have plenty of chances to win one in the future" argument used to justify giving it to Miggy?). I know voters like to say this stuff doesn't affect their choice but I'm sure it does, for some of them at least. Enough to tilt it away from him.

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 21:03 (four months ago) Permalink

If Martinez wins a Triple Crown--and he's pretty damn close right now--that would really scramble things up. I don't think Martinez would win--DH is a huge mountain to climb right now, more even than 10 years ago, when Ortiz had a 4th/2nd/3rd/4th run--but that would have a big effect on the results. And again, I think he'd take votes away from Betts, opening up room for Trout or Ramirez.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 21:12 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Playing the hits: There are now only eight position players in MLB history with at least three seasons of 10+ WAR. They are: Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Willie Mays, Rogers Hornsby, Ted Williams, Ty Cobb, Mickey Mantle, and Mike Trout. Mike Trout remains 27 years old.

— Ted Berg (@OGTedBerg) September 27, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Mike Trout remains 27 years old.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 September 2018 16:07 (two months ago) Permalink

jesus christ

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 September 2018 16:44 (two months ago) Permalink

did you mean to post that on the politics thred tracer

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 27 September 2018 16:45 (two months ago) Permalink

i was thinking "hey maybe there's a chance Trout will wind up with the most 10-plus WAR seasons..." then saw Hornsby and Mays had 6 apiece, and Ruth had 9. So probably not.

omar little, Thursday, 27 September 2018 16:48 (two months ago) Permalink

He'll probably tie Mays for the most 10+ seasons that don't win him an MVP.

clemenza, Thursday, 27 September 2018 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

(Can't realistically compare MVP-related things to anyone from the '30s or before--different system.)

clemenza, Thursday, 27 September 2018 17:24 (two months ago) Permalink


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