Mike Trout needs his own thread

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he is now at 9.4 rwar for the season. his closest competitor is robinson cano, who has played 21 more games, at 6.2. fwar is a bit more circumspect, but still gives him significant lead.

he leads the majors in stolen bases, runs scored and ops+

randal grichuk, whom the angels took one pick ahead of trout, is having a nice season in high-a ball.

this fucking guy.

mookieproof, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:09 (eight years ago) link

he's probably not gonna top A-Rods ridiculous age 20 season but yeah this is getting stupid

frogbs, Monday, 3 September 2012 04:58 (eight years ago) link

He's only not going to top it cuz he missed a month (although to be fair to A-Rod he only played 146 games it looks like.)

Totally proves the draft is a complete crapshoot.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 September 2012 14:41 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

TROUT

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 00:11 (seven years ago) link

...and a triple to go with his homer after two AB. Geez, if he hits for the cycle, you'll have to disown him.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:11 (seven years ago) link

:p

prefer 2 more HRs

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:12 (seven years ago) link

he really is pretty good
i mean, he is definitely probably one of the nice surprises this season, roy material

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:23 (seven years ago) link

he's in the running for rookie of the year for sure

la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:25 (seven years ago) link

Ruth of the Year

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:27 (seven years ago) link

does he have a nickname yet? we need to get on this. his last name is Trout for crissake, this should be low hanging fruit

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:34 (seven years ago) link

Rainbow and Dizzy are taken

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:38 (seven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutthroat_trout

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:41 (seven years ago) link

too bad he couldn't have played in the same outfield as tim salmon.

omar little, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:24 (seven years ago) link

or rogers smallmouth-bass

zachylon (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 September 2012 04:17 (seven years ago) link

30th dinger

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:12 (seven years ago) link

first 30/30 rookie

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:13 (seven years ago) link

Top of the 6th, he's 4-4 with a double, triple, and 3 RBI--off Felix. Unbelievable.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 03:57 (seven years ago) link

MIKE TROUT

Month AL WAR Rank

May 1
June 1
July 1
August 1
September 2

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:41 (seven years ago) link

he's really fallen off

la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:42 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

The Los Angeles Angels renewed the contract of AL Rookie of the Year Mike Trout for $510,000. The salary is $20,000 above the major league minimum.

seems a bit like leaving a $1 tip on a $100 check. there must be ways of saving money that don't involve insulting your best player

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:35 (seven years ago) link

every player goes through this and they already gave him 1+ mil just to sign. he'll buy a few yachts once he hits arb.

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:40 (seven years ago) link

but don't mind me i have trouble treating baseball contracts with the appropriate relativity

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:41 (seven years ago) link

If B-R numbers are right, it doesn't look like recent Rookies of the Year have gotten massive bumps in their next season.

I don't know that throwing him an extra $500k this season buys any more loyalty when the time comes for his $200mn contract in a few seasons.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:31 (seven years ago) link

scratch that - http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/3/4/4062060/mike-trout-salary-los-angeles-angels

increases were quite a bit larger, just not in raw $$$

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:35 (seven years ago) link

i'm sure he'll do v. well in arbitration and that he'll go wherever the money is when he's a free agent. if the angels had a policy of paying ppl the absolute minimum they had to, then fine. the extra $20k is weird tho.

it's obviously in trout's best interests to play hard and everything. it just seems like a bit more might be warranted in an effort to keep your best player happy and feeling valued.

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2013 17:55 (seven years ago) link

http://www.billjamesonline.com/mike_trout_runs__games/

The record that Mike Trout could threaten is the post-WWII tally for runs scored: 152, collected by Jeff Bagwell in 2000. And Trout could be the first player to score more runs than games played since Rickey Henderson accomplished the feat in 1985.

My first bold prediction for 2013? That he does one or the other. Mike Trout with either score 152+ runs in 2013, or he’ll score more runs than games played.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2013 20:03 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

jeez, look at the way he rounds first in that second clip. amazing.

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:29 (seven years ago) link

Bonifacio gif linked in the comments is actually an even crazier looking play.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:37 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

i posted that in the angels thread the other day :(

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:11 (seven years ago) link

B-R has him -9 runs in the field so far!

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:01 (seven years ago) link

i meant to say OF in the previous post btw, he played left and center iirc

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:38 (seven years ago) link

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:11 AM (6 days ago)

An attempt to break this down:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/36800/why-are-trouts-defensive-numbers-so-bad

Conclusion: don't expect it to last.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 June 2013 10:53 (seven years ago) link

thanks, i was just about to ask if anything's been written about that!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:28 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

75mph changeup = line-drive HR to left

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:52 (seven years ago) link

four hits today

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:14 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Noticed that he's almost exactly where he was last year in terms of basic slash stats:

2012 -- .326/.399/.564
2013 -- .320/.399/.560

His HR and SB are down a little, 2B and 3B way up.

clemenza, Friday, 12 July 2013 13:23 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

why is there no youtube compilation of mike trout triples?

k3vin k., Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:28 (seven years ago) link

4-4 with 2 walks last night, up to .331/.412/.568 and leads fWAR by 0.4 wins

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 August 2013 10:44 (seven years ago) link

18 walks in his last 10 games

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 August 2013 07:39 (seven years ago) link

David Cameron @DCameronFG
Through age-21 season, by wRC+, Mike Trout is the best hitter of all time, edging out Foxx and Williams.

David Cameron @DCameronFG
That's just hitting. No baserunning, no fielding, just hitting. Trout has been better than Ted Williams at hitting.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:29 (seven years ago) link

seeing him play next week

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:59 (seven years ago) link

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:45 (seven years ago) link

...

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:30 (seven years ago) link

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:35 (seven years ago) link

Angels have to be trying to lock him up for like decade.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:55 (seven years ago) link

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fangraphs is much kinder, but even they have him as a neutral defender rather than a huge minus.

anyway OPS above 1.000 now - .333/.424/.580

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:25 (seven years ago) link

just turned 22 yesterday btw

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:34 (seven years ago) link

Mike Trout is now tied with Derek Jeter in career WAR via both FanGraphs and Baseball Reference. pic.twitter.com/OC6vat7vQY

— Lindsey Adler (@lindseyadler) August 18, 2019

mookieproof, Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:52 (one year ago) link

Mike Trout just hit a baseball so far that Fox Sports West had the home run graphic up before the ball even landed. pic.twitter.com/dgSw1xALT6

— Fabian Ardaya (@FabianArdaya) September 4, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:24 (one year ago) link

.@MikeTrout, BIG FLY. 😱 pic.twitter.com/aWex1Ximr5

— MLB (@MLB) September 5, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 September 2019 20:24 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

semi-doppelganger MIKE FISH, discussed on EW podcast yesterday

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=fish--000mic

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:55 (ten months ago) link

me: i want mike trout
mom: we have mike trout at home
at home:

I'm a board man. Board man gets paid (Will M.), Friday, 15 November 2019 02:36 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

Trevor Bauer tells me Mike Trout has an exemption from the league for therapeutic HGH for thyroid issue, and that players know this and generally don't care-- says there's a whole complicated process to qualify for such an exemption from MLB.

— Daniel Roberts (@readDanwrite) January 17, 2020


can't handle everything going on this offseason

fwiw he tweeted yesterday that he hadn't heard anything about trout specifically
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOgrTA4XsAIZkZd.jpg

℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Friday, 17 January 2020 20:54 (eight months ago) link

it'll be annoying if this ends up being a thing that follows trout everywhere

i know he had a thyroid issue before his rookie year that needed treatment, so if his exemption goes that far back i imagine it's legit and not "MLB protecting its best player"

℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Friday, 17 January 2020 20:57 (eight months ago) link

this really brings out the whole pro sports dumpster igniters

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 January 2020 21:06 (eight months ago) link

Yikes. This is a chicken/egg slippery slope as PED abuse is aligned with thyroid issues, see Jason Giambi circa 2004.

Also reminscent of theories of Lance Armstrong's early career testicular cancer being a byproduct of his first doping programs and his numerous subsequent TUEs allowed as he was a survivor.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 January 2020 21:10 (eight months ago) link

:(

stop it, world

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 January 2020 22:12 (eight months ago) link

can’t think of a reason someone would need growth hormone for a thyroid issue...??

k3vin k., Saturday, 18 January 2020 00:24 (eight months ago) link

will carroll tweeted that thyroid issues aren't even covered by TUEs

bauer's friend tweeted this and then deleted both tweets:

Update: Bauer now, through his P.R. people, tells us that he said or meant to say that "IF" Trout has this exemption, he has a league-approved medical exemption. Bauer clarifies that he doesn't know whether Trout has one or not.

and then:

MLB and the MLBPA jointly released the following statement saying no player has ever received an exception for HGH under the current program.

Basically, statements about Mike Trout using HGH and having an exemption for it are false. pic.twitter.com/EaND5zfC1n

— Kyle Glaser (@KyleAGlaser) January 17, 2020

℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Saturday, 18 January 2020 01:24 (eight months ago) link

Lol I think he was maybe just repeating something that Scott Brosius’ kid tweeted yesterday.

omar little, Saturday, 18 January 2020 01:33 (eight months ago) link

dang, didn't baseball twitter just get sonned by someone claiming to be beltran's niece, like yesterday?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 18 January 2020 01:46 (eight months ago) link

yo is it true baseball twitter got sonned by a alleged burner account after a mlb beef??????

Andy K, Saturday, 18 January 2020 02:47 (eight months ago) link

beltran's niece actually turned out to be the burner of annoying twitter person IncarceratedBob

do keep up everyone, this is all very important

℺☽⋠⏎ (✖), Saturday, 18 January 2020 03:48 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

One of the cooler things Mike Trout does every year: instead of having his Millville HS number retired, he comes back and gives it to the new captains every year. https://t.co/iNbhQOqIMA

— Fabian Ardaya (@FabianArdaya) February 6, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:59 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Mike Trout hitting rockets isn’t exclusive to the baseball field. pic.twitter.com/tuEyIzxqQ5

— Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) March 2, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 2 March 2020 15:26 (six months ago) link

absolute liftoff

k3vin k., Monday, 2 March 2020 22:55 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

does anyone want to know what Trout's standout skill is?

If someone wants to know what Trout’s standout skill is, then, all you have to do is tell them he is more than twice as good at hitting pitches that are in the shadow of the strike zone as any other hitter in baseball. Tell them about how tough it is for hitters to hit pitches in the shadow of the zone, and how most of them cost their team piles of runs in those situations over the course of a season, and that Trout adds more value in what are supposed to be his least-advantageous situations than most hitters do in any situation, period. Maybe tell them about run expectancy, and how we’re not necessarily measuring Trout’s value in actual runs, but in perceived runs added in a context-neural, all-things-equal situation.

well, i think my job here is done.

Wait, that’s way too clunky. How many times are you gonna use the word “situation,” buddy? Sheesh. Instead, say Trout’s standout skill is dread. Say that there is a cliché that athletes and coaches often use about how if you come up with the right game plan and execute it, then you’ll be successful, only Trout is impervious to game plans. He succeeds against the types of pitches hitters are expected to succeed at, but he also succeeds where hitters are supposed to fail, and does so to an extent that is not replicated by anyone. Because of that, pitchers have nowhere to turn. Baseball is a zero-sum game; if Trout is never at a disadvantage, then the pitcher always is.

alright then, that does clarify things, so i'll just be-

Or you can just say he’s the best player in baseball. That stands out pretty well, too.

...

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/where-mike-trout-stands-out-most/

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 04:23 (five months ago) link

those stats are really cool. I have to find sortable tables for all those zone stats

k3vin k., Friday, 24 April 2020 05:36 (five months ago) link

i like them too. now i'm curious who wins the Vladimir Guerrero Sr award for best waste pitch hitter

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 05:40 (five months ago) link

the world demands to know. looks like they’re sourced from baseball savant but I can’t figure out how to find them

k3vin k., Friday, 24 April 2020 05:57 (five months ago) link

i couldn't find it on their website either, but found it through google:

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/visuals/swing-take?playerId=545361&year=2019

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:11 (five months ago) link

as usual at baseballsavant, they don't make it easy to sort or customize their data, and they bury interesting features. for example, you can switch the filter to pitchers, and i think that gives you a look at how different pitchers do in different areas of the strike zone, which is interesting in a different way

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:16 (five months ago) link

yeah, i think that's right. because it shows gerrit cole as having a -58 run value, with most of the surplus (or deficit i guess) coming from pitches in and on the edge of the zone, which makes sense for him

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:19 (five months ago) link

lol, i guess all pitchers do pretty well on the edge of the zone, duh.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:20 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

Mike Trout Is Now Fully Qualified for the Hall of Fame

so at least we have that

mookieproof, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:13 (one month ago) link

on paternity leave

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:12 (one month ago) link

Beckham Aaron Trout. B.A.T. BAT

— Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) August 1, 2020

Andy K, Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:10 (one month ago) link

is that for Aaron #44?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:18 (one month ago) link

homer 1st ab back from paternity leave, natch

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 02:19 (one month ago) link

29 today. he can beat the age curve, right?

right?

mookieproof, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:30 (one month ago) link

gonna suck when we inevitably have the "how many records would he have broken if not for the abridged 2020 season" convo

frogbs, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:38 (one month ago) link

most of those will be for counting stats, so ptui!

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2020 18:07 (one month ago) link

the record is six

Mike Trout has now homered on his 21st, 22nd, 24th, 26th and 29th birthdays.

Homer in 5 of 7 career birthday games.

— Christopher Kamka (@ckamka) August 8, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 19:49 (one month ago) link

whose record?

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:00 (one month ago) link

too obvious guess: Bonds?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:14 (one month ago) link

A-Rod, tied w/ a lesser light

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:17 (one month ago) link

Mark Reynolds

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:24 (one month ago) link

8 homers and a baby

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 21:10 (one month ago) link

And a valuable baseball card.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/mike-trout-rookie-baseball-card-top-1-million-auction

clemenza, Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:24 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hit his 300th tonight.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 September 2020 03:37 (two weeks ago) link

Which might make him the 10th youngest--not sure based on this.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-giancarlo-stanton-becomes-the-fifth-fastest-player-to-300-home-runs-in-mlb-history/

(Trout turned 29 on August 7.)

clemenza, Sunday, 6 September 2020 03:54 (two weeks ago) link

Trout catches Salmon

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 September 2020 15:38 (two weeks ago) link

That's great!

http://fishingbooker.com/blog/trout-vs-salmon/

clemenza, Sunday, 6 September 2020 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

haha

*a doff of the cap at Tracer*

*giggles nervously*

*flounces off*

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 6 September 2020 17:16 (two weeks ago) link


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