Mike Trout needs his own thread

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he is now at 9.4 rwar for the season. his closest competitor is robinson cano, who has played 21 more games, at 6.2. fwar is a bit more circumspect, but still gives him significant lead.

he leads the majors in stolen bases, runs scored and ops+

randal grichuk, whom the angels took one pick ahead of trout, is having a nice season in high-a ball.

this fucking guy.

mookieproof, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:09 (six years ago) Permalink

he's probably not gonna top A-Rods ridiculous age 20 season but yeah this is getting stupid

frogbs, Monday, 3 September 2012 04:58 (six years ago) Permalink

He's only not going to top it cuz he missed a month (although to be fair to A-Rod he only played 146 games it looks like.)

Totally proves the draft is a complete crapshoot.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 September 2012 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

TROUT

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 00:11 (six years ago) Permalink

...and a triple to go with his homer after two AB. Geez, if he hits for the cycle, you'll have to disown him.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:11 (six years ago) Permalink

:p

prefer 2 more HRs

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:12 (six years ago) Permalink

he really is pretty good
i mean, he is definitely probably one of the nice surprises this season, roy material

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:23 (six years ago) Permalink

he's in the running for rookie of the year for sure

la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Ruth of the Year

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:27 (six years ago) Permalink

does he have a nickname yet? we need to get on this. his last name is Trout for crissake, this should be low hanging fruit

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Rainbow and Dizzy are taken

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:38 (six years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutthroat_trout

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:41 (six years ago) Permalink

too bad he couldn't have played in the same outfield as tim salmon.

omar little, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:24 (six years ago) Permalink

or rogers smallmouth-bass

zachylon (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 September 2012 04:17 (six years ago) Permalink

30th dinger

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:12 (six years ago) Permalink

first 30/30 rookie

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Top of the 6th, he's 4-4 with a double, triple, and 3 RBI--off Felix. Unbelievable.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 03:57 (six years ago) Permalink

MIKE TROUT

Month AL WAR Rank

May 1
June 1
July 1
August 1
September 2

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

he's really fallen off

la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:42 (six years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

The Los Angeles Angels renewed the contract of AL Rookie of the Year Mike Trout for $510,000. The salary is $20,000 above the major league minimum.

seems a bit like leaving a $1 tip on a $100 check. there must be ways of saving money that don't involve insulting your best player

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:35 (six years ago) Permalink

every player goes through this and they already gave him 1+ mil just to sign. he'll buy a few yachts once he hits arb.

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:40 (six years ago) Permalink

but don't mind me i have trouble treating baseball contracts with the appropriate relativity

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

If B-R numbers are right, it doesn't look like recent Rookies of the Year have gotten massive bumps in their next season.

I don't know that throwing him an extra $500k this season buys any more loyalty when the time comes for his $200mn contract in a few seasons.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:31 (six years ago) Permalink

scratch that - http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/3/4/4062060/mike-trout-salary-los-angeles-angels

increases were quite a bit larger, just not in raw $$$

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm sure he'll do v. well in arbitration and that he'll go wherever the money is when he's a free agent. if the angels had a policy of paying ppl the absolute minimum they had to, then fine. the extra $20k is weird tho.

it's obviously in trout's best interests to play hard and everything. it just seems like a bit more might be warranted in an effort to keep your best player happy and feeling valued.

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2013 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.billjamesonline.com/mike_trout_runs__games/

The record that Mike Trout could threaten is the post-WWII tally for runs scored: 152, collected by Jeff Bagwell in 2000. And Trout could be the first player to score more runs than games played since Rickey Henderson accomplished the feat in 1985.

My first bold prediction for 2013? That he does one or the other. Mike Trout with either score 152+ runs in 2013, or he’ll score more runs than games played.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2013 20:03 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

jeez, look at the way he rounds first in that second clip. amazing.

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Bonifacio gif linked in the comments is actually an even crazier looking play.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i posted that in the angels thread the other day :(

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

B-R has him -9 runs in the field so far!

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

i meant to say OF in the previous post btw, he played left and center iirc

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:11 AM (6 days ago)

An attempt to break this down:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/36800/why-are-trouts-defensive-numbers-so-bad

Conclusion: don't expect it to last.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 June 2013 10:53 (six years ago) Permalink

thanks, i was just about to ask if anything's been written about that!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:28 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

75mph changeup = line-drive HR to left

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink

four hits today

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:14 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Noticed that he's almost exactly where he was last year in terms of basic slash stats:

2012 -- .326/.399/.564
2013 -- .320/.399/.560

His HR and SB are down a little, 2B and 3B way up.

clemenza, Friday, 12 July 2013 13:23 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

why is there no youtube compilation of mike trout triples?

k3vin k., Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:28 (five years ago) Permalink

4-4 with 2 walks last night, up to .331/.412/.568 and leads fWAR by 0.4 wins

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 August 2013 10:44 (five years ago) Permalink

18 walks in his last 10 games

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 August 2013 07:39 (five years ago) Permalink

David Cameron @DCameronFG
Through age-21 season, by wRC+, Mike Trout is the best hitter of all time, edging out Foxx and Williams.

David Cameron @DCameronFG
That's just hitting. No baserunning, no fielding, just hitting. Trout has been better than Ted Williams at hitting.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:29 (five years ago) Permalink

seeing him play next week

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:45 (five years ago) Permalink

...

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Angels have to be trying to lock him up for like decade.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fangraphs is much kinder, but even they have him as a neutral defender rather than a huge minus.

anyway OPS above 1.000 now - .333/.424/.580

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:25 (five years ago) Permalink

just turned 22 yesterday btw

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's the contract valuation for Mike Trout's 12-year, $430 million extension with the Angels. If he's worth more than 44.5 WAR from 2021 to 2032, this contract is a win for Los Angeles. You have to believe that he will easily reach that total. pic.twitter.com/wM1QDVI44R

— Devan Fink (@DevanFink) March 19, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:53 (two months ago) Permalink

Smart guy, I'd say--happy where's he playing, big payday but not obsessed with the market. Compared to the three big recent signings, he could have held out for a lot more, I'm sure, either in fewer years or more money.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:13 (two months ago) Permalink

all that's true, but i'm sure the angels are very happy that he's a smart guy

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Definitely. And if they ever get out from under the Pujols contract, they can go get him some help.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:01 (two months ago) Permalink

that WAR above seems very conservative...am I missing something? A decline in age 30 season to 4.1? His avg seasonal WAR (discounting 40 gm rookie season) is 9.1

GIven this projection (and assuming he maintains current avg in 2019/20) he would end the contract 12th in WAR btw Musial and Hornsby

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Or I guess this is just what he would minimally need to do in order to justify the $?

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:50 (two months ago) Permalink

I’m more interested in what his surplus value is w that contract

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Or I guess this is just what he would minimally need to do in order to justify the $?

― heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

correct

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:04 (two months ago) Permalink

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mike-trout-is-a-430-million-bargain/

The title is, if things go as expected, absolutely true, but it made me laugh anyway because every 538 title is constructed the same way, sports and politics both. They had that title ready to go no matter what he signed for.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 22:56 (two months ago) Permalink

trout's contract compared to others, with everything converted to 2019 dollars:

https://i.imgur.com/mbm4u8M.png
"I’ve included two Trout contracts below. The first is the $426.5 million figure representing the total value of the money owed to Trout; the second is Trout’s extension, assuming 5% inflation in the following two seasons."

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mike-trout-leaves-money-on-the-table-again/

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 01:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Those who call Mke Trout “boring” think the Karkrasians are celebrities. Trout cares about being the best, 3.9 or 4.0 to first, winning, being a great teammate, person, without need for celebrity or entourage.

— Peter Gammons (@pgammo) March 20, 2019

Andy K, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 13:42 (two months ago) Permalink

lolll

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:05 (two months ago) Permalink

How exactly is the $10M/WAR number calculated? I always see these kinds of numbers but am never completely sure where they come from. Two win players are definitely not getting $20M/yr on the open market now. I'm assuming they look at every current player who signed via free agency and are calculating the average WAR they've put up over the length of their contract.

For example, take Albert Pujols' contract, he's making $24M/yr and he's averaged about 1.5 WAR/yr (I'm estimating) over the seven years of his contract, so that's $16M per win per year. Factor in all free agents in the same way, and you get to $10M/WAR.

If this is how it's done, I'm not sure I buy it. Is inflation taken into account? What about players who sign extensions that buy out their free agent years? Fewer big stars even reach free agency, and you could argue that the lesser players that do are increasingly overpaid, which makes WAR more expensive on the open market. etc.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:40 (two months ago) Permalink

holy cow I missed that massive contract he signed, goof on him

frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2019 13:43 (two months ago) Permalink

"I got a good raspberry," he said with a laugh

michael

"But it's all good now. I'm fine. Other than that, I got a strawberry. That's it."

MICHAEL

WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING IT DIFFERENT BERRIES

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:05 (two months ago) Permalink

a raspberry is a Bronx cheer, he should know that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:53 (two months ago) Permalink

Trout just had one of the best series by anyone, ever. He was 6-for-11 with five HRs and six walks -- contributing to a 2.631 OPS, the third-highest by anyone in a four-game series in MLB history (min. 15 PA).

The highest ever was 3.111 by Babe Ruth in June of 1921 against the Tigers. He was 8-for-12 with six HRs and six walks in that series at the Polo Grounds. He also started and won a game on the mound in that series, striking out Ty Cobb.

The second-highest OPS ever was 2.850 by Mickey Mantle in July of 1962 against the A's, as he launched five HRs and walked six times.

mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 13:06 (two months ago) Permalink

christ

k3vin k., Monday, 8 April 2019 13:32 (two months ago) Permalink

i watched most of the 2-HR game the other night, and like mookieproof i have no idea why anyone pitches to him given that lineup

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:53 (two months ago) Permalink

AL player of the week for the first time since july 2015 (?!?)

mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:49 (two months ago) Permalink

that does not seem possible

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:50 (two months ago) Permalink

TIE for #91, i repeat, TIE for #91

https://i.imgur.com/sA61B56.jpg
(tie) 91. Captain Beefheart - Frownland (1:39)
0.3672 points
5 votes

https://i.imgur.com/YqsqlKS.jpg
(tie) 91. Napalm Death - You Suffer (0:02)
0.3672 points
8 votes

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:56 (two months ago) Permalink

the beefheart song is the first song on the countdown that i officially do not like

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:57 (two months ago) Permalink

i have been getting into earlier beefheart recently, actually. but i do not understand what people are hearing in frownland

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:57 (two months ago) Permalink

but beefheart wouldn't be beefheart if there weren't a bunch of people on the side going "i don't know what people are hearing in this", so i'm just playing the role

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:58 (two months ago) Permalink

um

i am sorry

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:00 (two months ago) Permalink

btw you all should check out this poll over here, it's great

Top 120 Songs Under 120 Seconds (ILM Poll #95)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

I thought it was maybe a “trout” mask replica thing

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Trout, Mike - replica jersey

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:10 (two months ago) Permalink

he's so hot right now that he literally opened a wormhole in this thread

frogbs, Monday, 8 April 2019 19:11 (two months ago) Permalink

trout mask replica was my keeper league team name for a while, but nobody got it. i changed it to mike 'ehrman' trout.

to halve and half not (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:12 (two months ago) Permalink

this is my punishment for never getting around to voting

mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 19:13 (two months ago) Permalink

:-(

2019 injury roll/discussion

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 04:32 (two months ago) Permalink

seems like it’s minor, thankfully

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:22 (two months ago) Permalink

WAR is live on our site and (no surprise) Mike Trout leads the majors

His 1.8 WAR in 12 games would pro-rate to 24.3 WAR in the course of a full 162-game season pic.twitter.com/b2DrrKI6l4

— Baseball Reference (@baseball_ref) April 10, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 16:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Trout Neck Replica

Andy K, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Mike Trout Walk Rate by season since 2014:
2019 - 26.5%
2018 - 20.1%
2017 - 18.5%
2016 - 17.0%
2015 - 13.5%
2014 - 11.8%

Teams are getting smarter apparently.

— Daren Willman (@darenw) April 11, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 April 2019 16:08 (two months ago) Permalink

at this rate his 2030 season will feature four at-bats

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:57 (two months ago) Permalink

As with Bonds, though, is there not a threshold where you're now walking the player too often?

clemenza, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:55 (two months ago) Permalink

well he's slugging .938 so far, so it doesn't quite make sense to walk him . . . but it's pretty close

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

if there's RISP i imagine a .938 looks very walkable!

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:06 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

This is the setup Mike Trout gets on a 3-0 count in a tie game pic.twitter.com/xj91tTRCj1

— David Adler (@_dadler) April 25, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 26 April 2019 20:48 (one month ago) Permalink

Is Trout's drastically reduced strikeout rate--31 games, 16 K (against 31 BB)--an early-season fluke or a conscious change in his approach?

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:23 (one month ago) Permalink

...or a conscious change in opposing pitchers' approach? He's on track to log 33 IBB's this season (previous high 25).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Is Trout's drastically reduced strikeout rate--31 games, 16 K (against 31 BB)--an early-season fluke or a conscious change in his approach?

― clemenza, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 8:23 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

honestly haven’t watched much of him this year but he struck out like twice in his first dozen or so games, so I’d bet he’s regressing back to near his normal mean

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:01 (one month ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

attack trout on the outside outside outside corner, it’s the only way

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 16:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it’s cool that he makes contact with 100% of the pitches thrown at his face

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

great article btw, don’t think I recognize the writer

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 June 2019 18:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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