Mike Trout needs his own thread

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he is now at 9.4 rwar for the season. his closest competitor is robinson cano, who has played 21 more games, at 6.2. fwar is a bit more circumspect, but still gives him significant lead.

he leads the majors in stolen bases, runs scored and ops+

randal grichuk, whom the angels took one pick ahead of trout, is having a nice season in high-a ball.

this fucking guy.

mookieproof, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:09 (nine years ago) link

he's probably not gonna top A-Rods ridiculous age 20 season but yeah this is getting stupid

frogbs, Monday, 3 September 2012 04:58 (nine years ago) link

He's only not going to top it cuz he missed a month (although to be fair to A-Rod he only played 146 games it looks like.)

Totally proves the draft is a complete crapshoot.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 September 2012 14:41 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

TROUT

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 00:11 (nine years ago) link

...and a triple to go with his homer after two AB. Geez, if he hits for the cycle, you'll have to disown him.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:11 (nine years ago) link

:p

prefer 2 more HRs

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:12 (nine years ago) link

he really is pretty good
i mean, he is definitely probably one of the nice surprises this season, roy material

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:23 (nine years ago) link

he's in the running for rookie of the year for sure

la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:25 (nine years ago) link

Ruth of the Year

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:27 (nine years ago) link

does he have a nickname yet? we need to get on this. his last name is Trout for crissake, this should be low hanging fruit

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:34 (nine years ago) link

Rainbow and Dizzy are taken

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:38 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutthroat_trout

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:41 (nine years ago) link

too bad he couldn't have played in the same outfield as tim salmon.

omar little, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:24 (nine years ago) link

or rogers smallmouth-bass

zachylon (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 September 2012 04:17 (nine years ago) link

30th dinger

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:12 (nine years ago) link

first 30/30 rookie

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 19:13 (nine years ago) link

Top of the 6th, he's 4-4 with a double, triple, and 3 RBI--off Felix. Unbelievable.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 03:57 (nine years ago) link

MIKE TROUT

Month AL WAR Rank

May 1
June 1
July 1
August 1
September 2

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:41 (nine years ago) link

he's really fallen off

la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:42 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

The Los Angeles Angels renewed the contract of AL Rookie of the Year Mike Trout for $510,000. The salary is $20,000 above the major league minimum.

seems a bit like leaving a $1 tip on a $100 check. there must be ways of saving money that don't involve insulting your best player

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:35 (nine years ago) link

every player goes through this and they already gave him 1+ mil just to sign. he'll buy a few yachts once he hits arb.

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:40 (nine years ago) link

but don't mind me i have trouble treating baseball contracts with the appropriate relativity

This is called money bags. (zachlyon), Saturday, 2 March 2013 22:41 (nine years ago) link

If B-R numbers are right, it doesn't look like recent Rookies of the Year have gotten massive bumps in their next season.

I don't know that throwing him an extra $500k this season buys any more loyalty when the time comes for his $200mn contract in a few seasons.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:31 (nine years ago) link

scratch that - http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/3/4/4062060/mike-trout-salary-los-angeles-angels

increases were quite a bit larger, just not in raw $$$

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 March 2013 17:35 (nine years ago) link

i'm sure he'll do v. well in arbitration and that he'll go wherever the money is when he's a free agent. if the angels had a policy of paying ppl the absolute minimum they had to, then fine. the extra $20k is weird tho.

it's obviously in trout's best interests to play hard and everything. it just seems like a bit more might be warranted in an effort to keep your best player happy and feeling valued.

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2013 17:55 (nine years ago) link

http://www.billjamesonline.com/mike_trout_runs__games/

The record that Mike Trout could threaten is the post-WWII tally for runs scored: 152, collected by Jeff Bagwell in 2000. And Trout could be the first player to score more runs than games played since Rickey Henderson accomplished the feat in 1985.

My first bold prediction for 2013? That he does one or the other. Mike Trout with either score 152+ runs in 2013, or he’ll score more runs than games played.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2013 20:03 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

jeez, look at the way he rounds first in that second clip. amazing.

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:29 (nine years ago) link

Bonifacio gif linked in the comments is actually an even crazier looking play.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:37 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

i posted that in the angels thread the other day :(

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:11 (nine years ago) link

B-R has him -9 runs in the field so far!

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:01 (nine years ago) link

i meant to say OF in the previous post btw, he played left and center iirc

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:38 (nine years ago) link

it is strange how the advanced metrics have him as a minus fielder so far this year after being a stellar LF last year

― k3vin k., Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:11 AM (6 days ago)

An attempt to break this down:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/36800/why-are-trouts-defensive-numbers-so-bad

Conclusion: don't expect it to last.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 June 2013 10:53 (nine years ago) link

thanks, i was just about to ask if anything's been written about that!

k3vin k., Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:28 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

75mph changeup = line-drive HR to left

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 23:52 (nine years ago) link

four hits today

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:14 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Noticed that he's almost exactly where he was last year in terms of basic slash stats:

2012 -- .326/.399/.564
2013 -- .320/.399/.560

His HR and SB are down a little, 2B and 3B way up.

clemenza, Friday, 12 July 2013 13:23 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

why is there no youtube compilation of mike trout triples?

k3vin k., Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:28 (nine years ago) link

4-4 with 2 walks last night, up to .331/.412/.568 and leads fWAR by 0.4 wins

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 August 2013 10:44 (nine years ago) link

18 walks in his last 10 games

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 August 2013 07:39 (nine years ago) link

David Cameron @DCameronFG
Through age-21 season, by wRC+, Mike Trout is the best hitter of all time, edging out Foxx and Williams.

David Cameron @DCameronFG
That's just hitting. No baserunning, no fielding, just hitting. Trout has been better than Ted Williams at hitting.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:29 (nine years ago) link

seeing him play next week

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:59 (nine years ago) link

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:45 (nine years ago) link

...

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:30 (nine years ago) link

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:35 (nine years ago) link

Angels have to be trying to lock him up for like decade.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:55 (nine years ago) link

Two-run homer first time up tonight. If it weren't for that (still weird) -1.4 defensive number, he'd probably be on his way to about a 12.0 WAR for the year.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fangraphs is much kinder, but even they have him as a neutral defender rather than a huge minus.

anyway OPS above 1.000 now - .333/.424/.580

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:25 (nine years ago) link

just turned 22 yesterday btw

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 08:34 (nine years ago) link

Which might make him the 10th youngest--not sure based on this.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-giancarlo-stanton-becomes-the-fifth-fastest-player-to-300-home-runs-in-mlb-history/

(Trout turned 29 on August 7.)

clemenza, Sunday, 6 September 2020 03:54 (one year ago) link

Trout catches Salmon

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 September 2020 15:38 (one year ago) link

That's great!

http://fishingbooker.com/blog/trout-vs-salmon/

clemenza, Sunday, 6 September 2020 15:41 (one year ago) link

haha

*a doff of the cap at Tracer*

*giggles nervously*

*flounces off*

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 6 September 2020 17:16 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Trout vs. Betts:

https://www.mlb.com/news/debate-mookie-betts-mike-trout-best-player-mlb

clemenza, Friday, 23 October 2020 15:10 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/RalzN3C.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 23 October 2020 15:53 (one year ago) link

Since betts is still playing and trout is not yes mookie betts is the best player in baseball

*mike trout looks out*

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 October 2020 21:12 (one year ago) link

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:45 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

CTRL-F "Morb" delivers.

Andy K, Saturday, 24 October 2020 00:43 (one year ago) link

"Every executive lauded Betts for his incredible talent, and while each one of them would be happy to have the Dodgers superstar patrolling right field for their club, the results were nearly unanimous: Eight executives chose Trout, one took Betts, while the other one called it a draw.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-mookie-betts-best-mlb-player-poll

clemenza, Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:16 (one year ago) link

The Posnanski article has some interesting points (before talking about the value of Betts having a WS ring) - I didn't realize Trout may be physically slowing down a touch. Just the rigors of playing center, or the foot surgery from a couple of seasons ago?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:29 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

9 G, .414/.564/.828, 271 wRC+, 1.0 fWAR

ffs

mookieproof, Monday, 12 April 2021 04:26 (one year ago) link

lol he has rendon hitting behind him and is still being walked 25% of the time

mookieproof, Monday, 12 April 2021 04:30 (one year ago) link

meanwhile albert is managing a sturdy -0.2fWAR in 6 games

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 April 2021 04:35 (one year ago) link

this trout guy does seem to be good though

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 April 2021 04:36 (one year ago) link

just hit his sixth homer, leads the league with 267 wRC+ now. I think it’s funny how every year there’s an article about the people who are going to surpass trout and nope, he’s the best and it’s not close

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:25 (one year ago) link

tbf acuña is making a case

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:37 (one year ago) link

trout has a .500+ OBP rn

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:31 (one year ago) link

yeah his BABIP is over .500

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:50 (one year ago) link

Seems like every year there’s also an article saying “...and he finally has a decent team behind him!”

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:11 (one year ago) link

I wonder if he and Connor McDavid ever talk. I don’t know if either of them are household names in the U.S.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:15 (one year ago) link

he’s the best and it’s not close

If he keeps going like this all season, no question, still the best. But I don't agree with the "not close"--Betts, Acuna, Tatis (if he keeps going), and Soto (weaker in the field) are all close; if Trout were to go back to the level he played at last season, I think he'd be surpassed. I'd hold off on this question right now.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:05 (one year ago) link

trout  .393/.507/.804, 6 HR, .533 BABIP, 29% K%
acuña .419/.486/.887, 7 HR, .413 BABIP, 14% K%
buxton .432/.479/.977, 6 HR, .464 BABIP, 21% K%

they're all even in WAR. trout/acuña have played 16 games, buxton only 12

this sort of offense is new for buxton, but if he can maintain even a portion of it, his god-like defense will carry him a long way. (acuña is being dinged for defense thus far)

anyway none of them are likely to carry on like this, but nevertheless i wouldn't say trout is miles ahead

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:35 (one year ago) link

I think the best piece of evidence for how close this is is that, going back to 2016, Betts is tied with Trout for bWAR, 38.2 each. I think most of you prefer Fangraphs: it's Trout 38.7, Betts 34.1 there. But that's still pretty close.

clemenza, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:14 (one year ago) link

and even that is with trout playing 50 fewer games. the basis of most of the articles I read is the projections which not unfairly assume trout will play less than full seasons, but when he’s suited up he’s still the goat

k3vin k., Friday, 23 April 2021 04:05 (one year ago) link

wild how he’s still in the top 15 in sprint speed, and also how he doesn’t try to steal bases anymore!

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sprint_speed_leaderboard

k3vin k., Monday, 26 April 2021 20:58 (one year ago) link

poor albert

mookieproof, Monday, 26 April 2021 21:05 (one year ago) link

3-3 tonight, welcome back

k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 April 2021 01:27 (one year ago) link

You'll like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnCJixeLI8

clemenza, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 01:41 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

mr injured is injured again ;_;

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:06 (one year ago) link

6-8 weeks, fuck

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 May 2021 22:57 (one year ago) link

ugh

, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:09 (one year ago) link

nail in the coffin of the angels playoff hopes too

, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:10 (one year ago) link

will he still lead MLB in WAR y/n

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:30 (one year ago) link

Doubtful with Acuna and Guerrero playing the way they are...Just asking the question makes your point, though.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 00:01 (one year ago) link

At least Mickey Mantle was getting blowjobs under the bleachers when he was injured.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:00 (one year ago) link

wait, what's that

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:08 (one year ago) link

wow! the mick!

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 03:01 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

mike trout is looking forward to this snowstorm

Need models to shift a little west still..we still have time only Wednesday 💪🏻💪🏻

— Mike Trout (@MikeTrout) January 26, 2022

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 20:57 (six months ago) link

dude loves weather

auld gang syne (k3vin k.), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:27 (six months ago) link

three months pass...

Trout, 30, joined some elite company, as he became the third player in Major League history with at least 1,000 runs, 300 home runs and 200 stolen bases by an age-30 season, joining Willie Mays and Alex Rodriguez. And over the last 60 years, he became the fifth-fastest to 1,000 career runs by games played. It took Trout 1,325 games to reach the milestone and the only players who reached it in fewer games over the last 60 years were Rickey Henderson (1,252), Rodriguez (1,261), Kenny Lofton (1,305) and Albert Pujols (1,306).

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-scores-1-000th-career-run

clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:24 (two months ago) link

Trout, Henderson, Rodriguez, Lofton, Pujols

Lofton was an outstanding player and one of my favorites, growing up, but one of these players does not belong!

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:26 (two months ago) link

I would agree, although highly underrated, and I think the VC will put him into the HOF one day. One of the players whose greatest season came in the strike year of '94.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:36 (two months ago) link

trout putting up that many runs for the Angels of 2012-2022 is pretty incredible on its own

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 May 2022 17:43 (two months ago) link

I was poking around to see if I could find out how fast Raines got there and came across this:

"Ted Williams is the fastest recorded player in MLB history to score 1,000 runs; he scored his 1,000th run in his 1,097th game." So they seem to have chosen a convenient cut-off point of 60 years--Williams was a lot faster, and I'm guessing Ruth, Hornsby, and some others were too.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:34 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

"He became the first player in AL/NL history to hit four game-winning home runs in a single series, according to Stats by STATS."

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-homers-5-times-in-series-vs-mariners

clemenza, Monday, 20 June 2022 14:41 (one month ago) link

been thinking about reviving the old “this team fucking stinks” Mariners thread, pretty sure Trout produced more runs than the entire Mariners offense over the series.

JoeStork, Monday, 20 June 2022 19:30 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

happy 31st

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 August 2022 20:11 (one week ago) link


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