Marquee match-ups

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Tried a few search terms and couldn't find a thread...People sometimes call attention to great pitching match-ups elsewhere; that's the purpose of this thread. For me, it should involve two starters who are either a) established stars pitching up to or close to their career norms, or b) a less than established star having a fantastic year (i.e., Lance Lynn this year). I don't know--I'm guessing most nights there's one, you don't often see two, and some nights there aren't any. Tonight: CC vs. David Price. I know CC's ERA is a little higher than normal right now, but his peripherals are good, and--thought-crime!--he's on target for 20 wins. Price continues to be one of the best starters in baseball.

clemenza, Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:39 (seven years ago) link

kind of a draw, in regards to pitching lines...
Price: 5 IP, 8k, 4BB, 3H, 1 ER
Sabatia: 7 IP, 12K, 1BB, 7H, 3ER (+2 unearned)

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 June 2012 02:33 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I noticed that Sabathia's line was actually pretty good, especially the K/BB. Higher game score?

clemenza, Friday, 8 June 2012 02:47 (seven years ago) link

If my calculations are right, Price = 61, Sabathia = 58. So: close, but no.

clemenza, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:00 (seven years ago) link

Tonight: Mets v. Nats. Dickey v. Wang.

wmlynch, Friday, 8 June 2012 03:49 (seven years ago) link

Good "traded for each other" game going on with Parker v. Cahill

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 June 2012 03:04 (seven years ago) link

hector noesi v jason marquis

see what i did there

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:37 (seven years ago) link

Price-Dickey tonight is p good

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:03 (seven years ago) link

price has fallen apart since the 4th inning

johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:46 (seven years ago) link

Second-guessing, but, based on this season, I should have flagged Lynn-Peavy tonight; Lynn won 1-0, with a game score of 81.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 June 2012 02:59 (seven years ago) link

Whoah--Dickey's GS was 96 tonight.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 June 2012 03:05 (seven years ago) link

sale v kershaw

johnny crunch, Saturday, 16 June 2012 00:40 (seven years ago) link

Missed Verlander-Lynn tonight. Verlander's got an early lead. (Two weeks ago, Dickey was a punchline on the Marquee match-ups thread.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 00:55 (seven years ago) link

1) David Price - Cole Hamels
2) overweight plodder - aging knuckleballer

clemenza, Sunday, 24 June 2012 13:15 (seven years ago) link

I'll take door #2, Monty.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:11 (seven years ago) link

assuming I get in from Iowa on time, J0rdan and I should be seeing Sale vs Oswalt on the South Side Tuesday night.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 June 2012 13:09 (seven years ago) link

Saw Volquez vs. Latos tonight - top notch.

timellison, Friday, 6 July 2012 06:24 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

will put on Yu v Sale now

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:04 (seven years ago) link

well 4-3 in the 2nd, so much for that

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:48 (seven years ago) link

Hamels v Sheets is close, but Cole's thrown more balls than strikes at this point.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:51 (seven years ago) link

trying to root for Philths this weekend, not easy

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:52 (seven years ago) link

:O

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:54 (seven years ago) link

Kershaw-Vogelsong should be good. I missed the obvious limitation of this thread when I opened it up: it's the same 12-15 names shuffled around.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:32 (seven years ago) link

Halladay-Hudson could go anywhere.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:06 (seven years ago) link

u forgot that the Philthies are in total punkass mode.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:39 (seven years ago) link

Which of the three words in "could go anywhere" didn't you read?

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Sunday, 29 July 2012 23:22 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hard to get a more statistically even match-up in the most basic columns than Bumgarner vs. Kershaw:

ERA -- 2.97 (B) / 2.90 (K)
IP -- 164 (B) / 171 (K)
H/9 -- 7.4 (B) / 6.9 (K)
K/BB -- 4.7 (B) / 3.9 (K)
W/L% -- .650 (B) / .647 (K)

And they have identical WHIPs of 1.014.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:19 (seven years ago) link

who wouldve thunk - david price vs.............luke hochevar

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 01:35 (seven years ago) link

... and the mighty Royals come out on top!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:07 (seven years ago) link

Cueto/Miley = Cy Young/ROY?

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 22:16 (seven years ago) link

It was a good matchup. Johnny Cueto pretty much did what he has done all year. Cueto is so much more efficient than he was in past years and seems to have another gear he can get into later in the game. He was filthy in his last inning which was the 7th.

Wade Miley pitched a pretty good game. He works really fast and throws strikes. I don't know if it is his motion, but there is something about his motion that seems to confuse hitters on where the pitch is going to be located. He got quite few swings and misses for a guy that tops out around 91-92. Really just gave up some singles and lost one run on an error by the D-back shortstop. Chris Welsh was impressed stating he reminded him quite a bit of former Red left-hander Tom Browning.

earlnash, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 04:36 (seven years ago) link

Verlander-Sale, a game separating their teams at the top; best match-up since Dickey-Sabathia a couple of months ago.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:00 (seven years ago) link

If you were watching the ESPN broadcast, you caught an amazing statistic: other teams are hitting .131 against Verlander after he passes 100 pitches. (Not that small a sample, either, seeing as he's exceeded 100 every start this year.)

clemenza, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:24 (seven years ago) link

Hell of a dugout tantrum from Sale. He looked psychopathic after he gave up that HR to Delmon Young.

Andy K, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:40 (seven years ago) link

Verlander-Sale again

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:04 (seven years ago) link

Rained out

Andy K, Friday, 14 September 2012 01:40 (seven years ago) link

Verlander and Sale ended up crushing the Twins and Indians (no runs allowed by either) instead of facing each other ... too bad.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 15 September 2012 05:40 (seven years ago) link

Verlander/Anderson (on ESPN tonight) qualifies, right?

Andy K, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:45 (seven years ago) link

The best starter in the NL is going tonight, if anyone's interested. vs. Josh Johnson, but still.

The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:04 (seven years ago) link

I had to think for 30 seconds on who Anderson is.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:34 (seven years ago) link

"Mister Anderson"

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:11 (seven years ago) link

Darvish-Greinke in a few

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2012 16:52 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Scherzer-Harvey on TV today.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:27 (six years ago) link

Aargh--looking forward to Scherzer/Harvey/Cabrera all day, I've got the Red Sox-Dodgers instead. I guess the reasoning is that the Jays are actively pursuing the Red Sox for a divisional crown.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 August 2013 20:04 (six years ago) link

scherzer!

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 August 2013 20:33 (six years ago) link

through four:

harvey 8 H, 2 K
scherzer 1 H, 8 K

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 August 2013 21:22 (six years ago) link

two pretty good rookies about to get going, Fernandez vs. Teheran

cops on horse (WilliamC), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:32 (six years ago) link

Good call--lead story on cnnsi.com this morning.

http://mlb.si.com/2013/08/31/mariners-taijuan-walker-wins-debut/?sct=mlb_t11_a2

clemenza, Saturday, 31 August 2013 13:19 (six years ago) link

Didn't realize it was Scherzer-Sale tonight.

clemenza, Monday, 9 September 2013 23:39 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Cliff Lee vs. Kris Medlen right now is a real beauty. Scoreless, 3 hits total, 11 Ks for Lee and Medlen just gave up his first hit in the 6th.

cops on horse (WilliamC), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:05 (six years ago) link

Vin Scully needs to update his Broadway-star references from ...Rex Harrison.

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 02:21 (three years ago) link

vin's stumbled a couple more times than usual tonight

k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 02:49 (three years ago) link

just called kershaw "koufax", though he can be forgiven for that one

k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 June 2016 02:50 (three years ago) link

didn't realize we had thor-lester today, tho that was pretty one-sided

k3vin k., Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:14 (three years ago) link

seems like every ace has thrown up a stinker in the last week or so tho

k3vin k., Sunday, 3 July 2016 20:14 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Didn't realize Bumgarner and Tanaka were going at it right now.

clemenza, Friday, 22 July 2016 23:25 (three years ago) link

degrom/jose fernandez tmorrow

johnny crunch, Saturday, 23 July 2016 03:09 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Marquee match-ups 2012: Verlander/Felix. Still a good one, though.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 23:09 (three years ago) link

always a race btwn me & clem to see who revives their marquee thread

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:25 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Kershaw-Scherzer must rank up near the top of post-season match-ups historically.

clemenza, Friday, 7 October 2016 12:25 (three years ago) link

This is a rout again rofl

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 12:37 (three years ago) link

let's call it Bumgarner vs Naked Bum of Death

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 02:03 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Kershaw-Greinke for the first time ever. (That didn't seem right--thought they matched up at least once last year--but I checked and it is.)

clemenza, Friday, 14 April 2017 16:21 (two years ago) link

wacha
tanaka

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wachatanaka
takawanacha

mookieproof, Friday, 14 April 2017 21:04 (two years ago) link

ah missed the hypen in the title

k3vin k., Saturday, 15 April 2017 03:10 (two years ago) link

Verlander-Kluber today.

clemenza, Saturday, 15 April 2017 14:38 (two years ago) link

So much for that.

Andy K, Saturday, 15 April 2017 23:33 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

You got an old man match up tonight in Chicago with 40 year old Bronson Arroyo going for the Reds against 38 year old John Lackey against the Cubs. I'm sure Arroyo will be doing high kicks and Lackey will be complaining about strikes. Reds won the first match up in Cincy back in April between these two.

Couldn't find it, but that might have been the first time they faced off.

earlnash, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:15 (two years ago) link

kershaw/lynn tonight has been great

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2017 03:57 (two years ago) link

matt carpenter's year has been weirdly good

k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 May 2017 04:06 (two years ago) link

keuchel v darvish

johnny crunch, Friday, 2 June 2017 19:49 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

scherzer v arrieta, first matchup of previous two cy young winners since 2008

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:40 (two years ago) link

sure looks like Arrieta's days as an ace are numbered

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 01:09 (two years ago) link

Scherzer-Carlos Martinez.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 July 2017 17:22 (two years ago) link

lots of good pitchers going today

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 July 2017 18:00 (two years ago) link

including the are-they-still-good triumvirate of arrieta, verlander, and quintana

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 July 2017 18:00 (two years ago) link

arrieta was good today

na (NA), Sunday, 2 July 2017 19:38 (two years ago) link

yeah he looked solid, effective but not dominant

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 July 2017 19:40 (two years ago) link

verlander somewhat less so

mookieproof, Sunday, 2 July 2017 20:03 (two years ago) link

scherzer has 5 strikeouts through 6, and this cardinals lineup is due for a complete embarrassing implosion so i'd expect several more

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 July 2017 00:41 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Sale-Sabathia. More like a marquees-passing-in-the-night match-up. And they have the same initials. At least I think they do--I'm not sure.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 August 2017 15:33 (two years ago) link

I was looking at the Red Sox schedule to gauge if I'm going to see Sale, and it looks good; he's scheduled to go on Tuesday, Aug. 29, and I'm down there on the 28/29/30.

Also noticed how close a Sale/Kluber match-up this Thursday is; it would require a Cleveland rainout or, as a gift to the world, holding back Kluber an extra day.

clemenza, Sunday, 20 August 2017 14:34 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Greinke-Bumgarner...who still looks marquee to me, abbreviated season and terrible team aside.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 September 2017 14:00 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

Severino-Price? Price is having a pretty good year--probably not marquee-level anymore, though.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 July 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

Kluber/Seve--never mind.

clemenza, Friday, 13 July 2018 05:03 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

against all odds, scherzer/hamels is a good battle so far

na (NA), Monday, 13 August 2018 01:21 (one year ago) link

Kershaw-Bumgarner tonight (almost nostalgic)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:56 (one year ago) link

Need David Letterman: Noah, Nola; Nola, Noah.

clemenza, Friday, 17 August 2018 20:09 (one year ago) link

Scherzer-Nola tonight

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 14:11 (one year ago) link

scherzer with 83 pitches through four innings -- 24 of them fouled off

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

lol Neshek

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 02:12 (one year ago) link

lester and nola dueling rn

na (NA), Sunday, 2 September 2018 18:32 (one year ago) link

deGrom-Sale scheduled for Sunday at Fenway. (tho i guess Sale will go 2 innings)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

3-4 innings, Sox say

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:24 (one year ago) link

Besides the Sale-deGrom partial match-up, there's Verlander/Greinke.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 September 2018 15:00 (one year ago) link

Kershaw-Freeland.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:11 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

Scherzer-deGrom; definite Cy Young implications.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 23:59 (two months ago) link

Freeland? I should stick with actual marquee match-ups.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:00 (two months ago) link

Well played, Hyun-jin Ryu.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:49 (two months ago) link


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