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The other threads with "Expos" in the title are sad.

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Andy K, Monday, 19 October 2009 20:34 (nine years ago) link

http://a.espncdn.com/i/page2/photos/040929expos.jpg

Andy K, Monday, 19 October 2009 20:34 (nine years ago) link

I have a shirt I bought at the Big O on the last homestand.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 October 2009 20:36 (nine years ago) link

So glad I got to see them play in MTL. Weirdest color turf I've ever seen.

WmC, Monday, 19 October 2009 20:39 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2QuAO1xJu8

velko, Monday, 19 October 2009 20:39 (nine years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/2691703118_26eb63aefd_o.png

velko, Monday, 19 October 2009 20:42 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/sports/baseball/08expos.html

Andy K, Friday, 8 January 2010 13:40 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

I'd pick either Nick Johnson or Vlad, seeing as they should be productive DH's for several more years. If Vlad can have a few more good years and cinch his HOF status, it'd be nice to see him enter the hall as an Expo (~ 15 years after the team ceased to exist).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:41 (nine years ago) link

Either Lilly or someone totally random like Carroll or Harris or Downs.

I'd bet money on Vlad going into the HOF as an Angel.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:07 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

http://jonahkeri.com/2010/08/16/triumph-and-tragedy-94-expos/

This program left me in tears.

Andy K, Sunday, 22 August 2010 02:50 (nine years ago) link

That looks awesome. And Keri's article is great.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 22 August 2010 09:36 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-1994expos.html

Andy K, Thursday, 30 September 2010 13:14 (eight years ago) link

http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-2004expos.html

Andy K, Thursday, 30 September 2010 13:14 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ibLDHfdJhU

Andy K, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:20 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

Wezen-Ball
The Expos Invite You to the Montreal Symphony Orchestra

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=13839

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 8 May 2011 09:17 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...
one month passes...

https://twitter.com/#!/Montreal_Expos

Maltodextrin, Friday, 29 July 2011 03:31 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

happy birthday to le grand chat

mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 02:20 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

What do you experts think? Any chance of seeing MLB baseball in Montréal again?

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Jack+Todd+baseball+dream+reborn/8145572/story.html

Van Horn Street, Friday, 3 May 2013 18:44 (six years ago) link

no

mookieproof, Friday, 3 May 2013 20:20 (six years ago) link

ne pas.

able was i ere i saw 'elb'

ciderpress, Friday, 3 May 2013 20:49 (six years ago) link

So not gonna happen.

What makes a man start threads? (WilliamC), Friday, 3 May 2013 21:25 (six years ago) link

Some of the reasons in that article (e.g. social media, revenue sharing, TV money) would apply to any potential new baseball city, not just Montreal. Also this --

Right now I’d put the chances that Montreal will get another major-league team somewhere between bandicoot battery and the likelihood that the ex-Expos (a.k.a. the Washington Nationals — will win the World Series.

-- seems to show that the reporter hasn't actually watched baseball or the Nationals in past five years or so.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 3 May 2013 21:50 (six years ago) link

;_;

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 4 May 2013 09:43 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Keepin the rêve alive

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:46 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Jonah Keri @jonahkeri
600 people signed up so far for Expos fans reunion at TOR v TB, Rogers Centre July 20. To join, bluejays.com Sections 101/102/103.

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2013 15:29 (six years ago) link

able was i ere i saw 'elb', eh

Louie Althusser (Leee), Sunday, 21 July 2013 05:06 (six years ago) link

74-40 GODDAMNIT

Andy K, Sunday, 21 July 2013 23:47 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQh7inZ9mtc

Andy K, Saturday, 27 July 2013 01:03 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

not unless Youppi stays away.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:57 (five years ago) link

YES!

Now i'm anxious it won't draw.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 03:34 (five years ago) link

now featuring a reunion of the '94 expos

http://www.montrealbaseballproject.com/english/gala

mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:21 (five years ago) link

yes, by the time I get my new passport it could be March; let's go to Montreal.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 September 2013 16:48 (five years ago) link

I could do this.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 29 September 2013 21:24 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

btw those exhibition dates are March 28 & 29

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:00 (five years ago) link

Got my tickets to one of the games (I think Friday). Any ILXors going? Maybe grab an ILX pack? Are they even still available? Got mine so long ago...

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:03 (five years ago) link

oh and re:

YES!

Now i'm anxious it won't draw.

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:34 (1 month ago)

"Over 50,000 have been sold for the games in March," the president of the Montreal Baseball Project told CJAD 800 News.

Cromartie said they've also sold about 28,000 tickets for next March's gala celebrating the 20th anniversary of the 1994 Expos.

http://www.cjad.com/CJADLocalNews/entry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10604899

I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:05 (five years ago) link

well I guess we should decide before (US) Thanksgiving, then

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:33 (five years ago) link

Yeah I'm glad it is such a success, but the anxiety was justified.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 19:13 (five years ago) link

what's the o roof situation these days?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 23:26 (five years ago) link

I want to know what a sandwich spécial is!

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 23:10 (four years ago) link

Ham, cheese, and little pieces of John Boccabella.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 23:13 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

I finally started reading "Up Up and Away" as a spring training present to myself (I bought it a few months ago and finally started reading it this week). I'm about sixty pages in and it's perfect pre-season reading, full of amusing stories and cool factoids (like the English to Quebecois French translation of baseball terms). No bitterness, just a "this was fun while it lasted" vibe throughout (maybe the bitterness comes later though).

I had no idea that MLB awarded a franchise to MTL before there was an ownership group in place! The business of baseball has really changed since the late 60's ...

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 08:18 (three years ago) link

this is one of my favorite pages in the internet: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/French_Baseball_Glossary

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:46 (three years ago) link

Got my tickets for Saturday @ the Big O, currently getting tickets for Friday as well. It was all sorts of fun last year.

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 19:27 (three years ago) link

Knuckleball - la balle papillon

Butterfly ball?

Andy K, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 19:41 (three years ago) link

that's my favourite one! i end up just reading that page idly a few times per season.

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:11 (three years ago) link

i'm picturing the Quebec language police coming down on the field and telling the players they have to communicate entirely en francais during the game.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:15 (three years ago) link

"La balle papillon" was Jonah Keri's favourite too, but his list wasn't as comprehensive as the B-R glossary. "Blown Save - le sabotage" gets my vote though.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 10 March 2016 09:12 (three years ago) link

a screwball is a corkscrew ball, because wine lol french lol etc
a forkball = a slingball
a bunt is like... a cushioning?
pop-up/line drive/grounder = candle/arrow/roller
a shutout = laundry!!!
pitch hitter = emergency hitter (but a pinch runner is just a substitute runner, lol)

and then there's the ones that are just fun to say... moyen du puissance! balle glissante!

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 15:48 (three years ago) link

fly ball is ballon, which is the name we give to bigger balls like a basketball or a soccer ball.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:57 (three years ago) link

I'm up to the chapter about 1994 (it gets its own chapter). I've been kind of dreading this part of the book, since it's nothing but a series of crushing disappointments from here until the end, but OTOH Keri's been keeping the negativity to a minimum so maybe I'm in for a surprise.

I'd almost forgotten how bad Expos ownership was in the pre-Loria days. Keri tries to be neutral on most things, and in many ways Charles Bronfman comes across as a visionary who helped bring the Expos to Montreal and led them through their late 70's/early '80's heyday. But to me he also comes across as a greedy asshole, even more so than your usual scummy baseball owner. He was arguably the most enthusiastic supporter of collusion in the 80's, and interviewees in the book say that he was personally crushed to discover that players wanted to be paid better and would sometimes sign with the highest bidder. He saw the Expos as a family business (where only he was allowed to make money of course) and couldn't understand why the ungrateful players didn't share in that loyalty, they just wanted more money.

The Expos also tried to squeeze the Jays out of their own markets in the 80's, which I hadn't heard about before. People partly blamed the Expos' downfall on the Jays, claiming that the Spos couldn't possibly survive unless they had nearly exclusive rights to broadcast anywhere in Canada, but particularly in Southern Ontario. Last I checked, the Canadiens do just fine despite the Leafs, and the population of Montreal is still larger than most MLB cities. And where exactly were the Jays supposed to broadcast their games??

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 March 2016 10:14 (three years ago) link

I agree with Kerri, reading between the lines I think he admits that Montrealers don't care about baseball. You have some niches groups here and there, enough to get the O filled up for those two meaningless spring training games, but if you ask random montrealers they would struggle to name all 30 MLB teams. I keep asking about Mike Trout and 9 times out of ten they have no idea. It gets worse outside of the city, although Quebec City has a solid core of baseball fanatics for whatever reason. I don't have numbers to back that claim but I'm certain soccer and football are way more popular, and way more part of the collective consciousness. Jays and Jays' ownership were within their rights to solidify their own markets, it's just that it exposed the ugly truth that Montreal does not care about baseball like say lots of american cities do. Also, comparatively to other NA markets, Montreal was financially poor and struggling up until quite recently.

Also, Habs have fans all across Canada and are tied to a nationalist sentiment unlike any other club in the major leagues, I don't think you can compare both situations.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 20 March 2016 16:35 (three years ago) link

I mean, you have one of the most beloved players of his generation reaching the eternal 3000 hits plateau and the attendance was of 13,540.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 20 March 2016 16:40 (three years ago) link

You could say a lot of the same things about Jays fans though. Baseball always comes second to hockey. Both Torontonians and Montrealers will support a winning baseball team, but when the team is playing badly that support collapsed. With the hockey teams, fan support is much more constant, particularly in Toronto (that's not necessarily a compliment -- Toronto hockey fans will tolerate way too much mediocrity, whereas Montreal fans are smart enough not to tolerate that shit).

At the time (late '90's) I thought a new stadium in Montreal wasn't the solution, but now I'm not so sure after seeing what it's done for other teams in recent years after moving from suburban multipurpose stadiums into downtown baseball only parks (e.g. Pittsburgh, SF).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 21 March 2016 09:08 (three years ago) link

Finished it ... it was about what I expected -- an easy read that brought back a lot of memories. It feels like he barely scratched the surface on a lot of things, he interviewed about one hundred people and could probably fill up another book just with stories and oral histories if he wanted.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 11:38 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClpmHHLXIAASM57.jpg

Andy K, Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:00 (three years ago) link

this makes me sad.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:31 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

allo

Now, just because a group of investors have met MLB’s conditions, it does not mean baseball’s return to Montreal is imminent. Hardly. Commissioner Rob Manfred has said he wants the Rays and Athletics to get new ballparks before considering expansion, plus MLB would surely open up the bidding to multiple cities.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/investors-have-reportedly-met-mlbs-conditions-to-bring-a-team-back-to-montreal/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:45 (two years ago) link

Bleh, we already have enough taxes and debt like it is, and no way a stadium is built without some government funding. I love baseball, of course, and would welcome an expansion team, but that scam has been going for too long.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 31 March 2017 01:08 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8RqHFPXUAE9QhE.jpg

makeshift bullpens at the O

mookieproof, Friday, 31 March 2017 21:17 (two years ago) link

Such a brutal stadium.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 31 March 2017 21:51 (two years ago) link

i agree, it is a masterpiece of brutalism

Van Horn Street, Friday, 31 March 2017 22:10 (two years ago) link

i don't think it's really any worse than the other 70s stadiums like three rivers/riverfront/the vet. which admittedly isn't saying much

mookieproof, Friday, 31 March 2017 23:26 (two years ago) link

Now, just because a group of investors have met MLB’s conditions, it does not mean baseball’s return to Montreal is imminent.

no, it means manfred has a francophone stick with which to beat the local oakland and tampa governments

mookieproof, Friday, 31 March 2017 23:31 (two years ago) link

un baton.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 April 2017 02:50 (two years ago) link

le bâton

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 April 2017 02:53 (two years ago) link

lol

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 1 April 2017 03:13 (two years ago) link

French government has been trying to reform that accent out of existence since 2008. You could say it is a bit like the Expos.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 April 2017 03:59 (two years ago) link

id say i liked the view from my cheap seats better than i ever enjoyed the view from the cheap seats at the skydome.

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Saturday, 1 April 2017 18:44 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

I guess it's not universally accepted that manfred's just yapping to get Oakland and TB their taxpayer parks

qualx, Friday, 14 July 2017 22:15 (two years ago) link

i'm sure that's part of it, but . . . the rockies paid a $95m expansion fee in 1992. the new las vegas team in the nhl just paid $500m. a new baseball team would be $1b at least, i would think, of straight-up free money? even split 30 ways that's a lot

mookieproof, Friday, 14 July 2017 23:27 (two years ago) link

i don't think it'll happen before those two teams get their parks though. really, they need to be relocated before anyone even thinks about expansion, but that isn't coming from a $$ standpoint.

i agree with AGon though, if the goal of mexico expansion is to open up the entire country's market and/or diplomatic baseball reasons, it doesn't need to be a logistical nightmare like mexico city. monterrey is at least a hell of a lot closer to the rest of the league and shorter than denver by several thousand feet.

qualx, Saturday, 15 July 2017 00:06 (two years ago) link

Jered Weaver in a brutalist bullpen would think his fastball is roughly 110 mph.

Andy K, Saturday, 15 July 2017 02:07 (two years ago) link

Montreal can't afford a new ballpark/billionaire's scam. Montreal can't afford a new ballpark/billionaire's scam. Montreal can't afford a new ballpark/billionaire's scam.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 15 July 2017 02:41 (two years ago) link

otm. isn't carey price enough?

mookieproof, Saturday, 15 July 2017 03:35 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://phildellio.tripod.com/raines.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:29 (two years ago) link

Oh man.

Andy K, Sunday, 30 July 2017 02:42 (two years ago) link

<3

mookieproof, Sunday, 30 July 2017 05:23 (two years ago) link

Posnanski pointed out the other day how incredibly close they were during their Expos years:

Games played in Montreal:

Tim Raines: 1,452
Andre Dawson: 1,443

WAR in Montreal:

Tim Raines: 48.5
Andre Dawson: 48.1

clemenza, Sunday, 30 July 2017 13:49 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

This video is worth checking out. Stick around until the end, the last throw they show is unbelievable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQwfvNtAFyk

earlnash, Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:00 (eleven months ago) link

I remember when Ellis Valentine got hit in the face with a pitch and wore this helmet. Always thought this was a pretty cool card.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IBmZyF9wrGA/TVjWUNxAV1I/AAAAAAAAQUU/0YwpFu8NaXo/s1600/ellis_card.jpg

Lot of big name players in that Valentine clip. I believe that is Dale Murphy in that one against the Braves.

earlnash, Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:02 (eleven months ago) link

five months pass...

jacksonville expos cap circa 1985-90. nice

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyVrJQzXQAAzY7j.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 1 February 2019 18:11 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-0cveIWsAEYs6D.jpg

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 July 2019 21:25 (one month ago) link

Pitching another monster game through 5 (59 strikes, 19 balls!).

Somewhat related: going to the Canadian HOF for the first time on Wednesday. I hope there's more than a Fergie Jenkins jersey and a couple of Joey Votto's bats...

clemenza, Saturday, 6 July 2019 21:49 (one month ago) link

For a long time I just assumed Tim Raines was canadian because he got inducted there.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 July 2019 16:00 (one month ago) link

Would love to learn why LB Pearson is inducted if you can report for me.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 July 2019 16:03 (one month ago) link

My guess would be he had a hand in getting Montreal a team--he was PM up till '68? I think there are a bunch of non-Canadian Jays and Expos in there.

clemenza, Sunday, 7 July 2019 17:25 (one month ago) link

"Canada’s 14th Prime Minister, Lester B. Pearson, was a fine all-around athlete who participated in a variety of sports, including hockey, football, rugby, basketball and lacrosse. But baseball was Pearson’s true passion. He suited up alongside his brother, Vaughan, with the Guelph Maple Leafs of the Ontario Intercounty Baseball League and attended games at Toronto’s famed Hanlan’s Point stadium as a youngster.

Later in life, the Nobel Peace Prize winner served as an honorary board member with the Montreal Expos. After his death, the Pearson Cup, named in his honour, was presented to the winner of an annual exhibition game between the Toronto Blue Jays and Montreal Expos from 1978 to 1986."

So...he liked baseball seems to be the reason.

clemenza, Sunday, 7 July 2019 17:27 (one month ago) link


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