Bill James Bio?

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does anyone have the inside scoop on this? Any word out there on the SABR list or BP?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

First I've heard of it.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

The chapter in Moneyball was enough for me.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

The reason why I ask:

Scott Gray is a musician and nonfiction writer. He served as consulting editor on a series of nine sports titles for Ballantine and is the author of:

Chicks Rule: The Story of the Dixie Chicks
Heart Song: The Story of Jewel
On Her Way: The Shania Twain Story
Perfect Harmony: The Faith Hill and Tim McGraw Story.
Livin' On Country: The Alan Jackson Story

He was raised in Oklahoma and lives in New York City and Charlottesville, VA.

I think it's Yanc3y's pseudonym.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

this book should be RIVETING

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope there's lots more about his stint as the watchman in the pork-and-beans plant.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

this is hardly a bio nyah? more like a summary or collection of his writing & thoughts on baseball.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Gleeman on the book:

http://www.aarongleeman.com/2006_02_19_baseballblog_archive.html#114058442013189069


I can attest that Bill is not as svelte as the bobblehead (last I saw him).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

"I think that some people have the idea that we understand baseball and there are some gray areas we just have to tidy up. My notion is that baseball is an ocean and what we have figured out is about the size of a swimming pool. That's not just about baseball. It's about the world in general. What we have figured out is really insignificant compared to everything that's out there, but it doesn't diminish our ability to get it done."

--writer Bill James, on using baseball statistics to understand the game (Palm Beach Post)

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2006/04/02/sb2a_statguys_0402.html


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

he'll be appearing on The Simpsons this season

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

a harvard lampoon alum wrote him in no doubt

sanskrit, Friday, 6 August 2010 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Different book, but I bought and read this last year:

http://www.amazon.com/Bill-James-Changed-View-Baseball/dp/0879463171

Truthfully, it wasn't all that exciting. You had a number of contributors saying the same thing 14 different ways.

clemenza, Friday, 6 August 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure I overheard Bill telling a Noodles Hahn anecdote this morning

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 August 2010 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

bought the paperback historical baseball abstract for $1 @ a book sale and there was a $2 bill inside

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 July 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Hard not to read this thread title as akin to Ronny James Dio.

congratulations (n/a), Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

Has he (or anyone similar) ever written about team win/loss streaks... in season only, not the plexiglass principle.

queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

Probably the year after the Tigers' 35-5 start (meaning the '85 Abstract), James wrote a long thing on when a fast start starts to become significant; i.e., 5-0 doesn't mean much, 10-0 means a lot, etc. That's the only related thing I remember.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

A couple of you in the past have indicated that James may have lost something over the years, that he's now part of the same baseball establishment he once questioned at every turn. Most of the time I still love reading him, but sometimes he'll write things that do make me wonder. There were back-to-back "Ask Bill"s this morning that were puzzling.

1) One thing I still remember from an old Abstract is where he tried to systematically look at a player's IQ based on factors like strike-zone judgement, number of caught stealings, the ability to improve over time, etc. I remember he identified Alfredo Griffin as the dumbest player in baseball--he may have stopped short of using those exact words--and, I think, Lou Whitaker as the smartest. He got a question today complaining about Alfonso Soriano, and whether he still thinks baseball intelligence can be quantified.

"I don't think you can reliably infer intelligence from a player's baseball statistics, no. I do think we could do a better job of charting on-field mistakes, and perhaps in that way identifying players who just don't play the game very well."

2) Right before that, there was a question on whether or not to shut down Strasburg, which was basically the exact same question he fielded a month ago.

(July 13) "No, I wouldn't shut him down. I never understood the logic by which limiting the growth of innings pitched year to year could protect a pitcher, and I think most serious analysts agree that that was just sloppy research."

(today) "Well...I think (shutting him down) is reasonable, yes...Strasburg is coming back from Tommy John, and he is still very young. You're asking him to do A LOT for a pitcher one year away from Tommy John, and you're exposing a 23, 24-year-old pitcher to a full workload."

Not that I know the right answer myself, but there's quite a disconnect there.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

The first problem seemed poorly stated to begin with. And what's so strange about him changing his mind 30 years later? I'm sure that plenty of things in the early Abstracts were written on a whim anyway.

There isn't necessarily a contradiction in the Strasburg stuff ... I would agree that it's reasonable to shut him down, but at the same time, I wouldn't do it.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

I'm always quoting and defending James, so it's weird for me to take the other side. Changing or modifying your views over time, especially as it relates to the availability of more and better information, is a good thing--actually, James's vigilance against being boxed in by dogma is one of the greatest things about him. The reason the first one caught my eye is that it does seem to line up with the idea that he's more reluctant to pointedly criticize players since he joined the Red Sox. This makes sense--once you've had more direct contact with players on the inside, it stands to reason you're a little more guarded about doing things like trying to quantify their intelligence. (Not to mention that people generally soften with age anyway.) It's just something I noticed.

With Strasburg (I didn't quote either of his answers in full), more than the first issue, I do find the contrast strange. His first response was an emphatic no, there's no reason to shut him down (the rest of his answer: "I think they need to be careful with Strasburg, perhaps limit his pitches, be extra careful about looking for signs of fatigue. But drawing an innings limit and pretending that that's somehow going to protect him is perilously close to magical thinking"). The second could have come from the Nationals' GM himself.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

did anyone read his true crime book

turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 24 May 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah. He's kind of a nut nowadays, but I thought it was a fun read.

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 24 May 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

I read the crime book and--no bias here--liked it fine. Don't think I've read any true-crime books other than In Cold Blood, though, so that was a limitation of sorts.

clemenza, Friday, 24 May 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

i heard it was kinda wackadoo

turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 24 May 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

It is kinda, but that's almost part of its charm. He keeps coming up with formulas to calculate like "how sordid was this crime on a scale of 1-20" or whatever, it's pretty funny.

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 24 May 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Bobby Valentine said he didn't hear from Bill once when he managed Boston, so if he's a nut he may be crazy like a fox.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 May 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

Won't be able to read this till later tonight. It's long, free for now, and surely has lots for everyone to hate.

http://www.billjamesonline.com/how_the_democrats_can_win_kansas/

clemenza, Friday, 27 January 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

mostly just clueless

mookieproof, Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:04 (seven years ago) link

"But it rather seems to me that you could and should have won this election by, oh, I don’t know, 538 to nothing or thereabouts" is a good place to start.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:45 (seven years ago) link

This is not directed at you personally, mookie, but I don't really understand the ILX tendency to brush aside people like James, Marcus, and Christgau--older writers who don't necessarily have the visibility or the influence they once had; I suspect if Kael were still writing, especially somewhere other than the New Yorker, she'd get the same treatment--with curt dismissals. Your post reminds me of some of the reaction when I linked to Marcus explaining months ago why Trump might win. I don't agree with everything James writes, but there's a lot there, and I'd say at least half of it is spot-on. It's as good an election postmortem as just about anything I've read from people who write about politics for a living.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link

haha i actually thought about going deeper last night but figured why bother. 'clueless' was the wrong adjective, tbf.

i haven't read a great deal of james, marcus or christgau. i have nothing at all against marcus. i think christgau is a prick and while i respect his sheer dedication to listening to literally everything, i've generally found his reviews to be useless. it's impressive that he turned being gnomic into a career, but whatever.

i respect james' grasp of statistics and willingness to challenge the received baseball wisdom of 30-40 years ago. he was a pioneer and his ideas have won the day in the game. i don't think any of that makes him a particularly insightful political commentator. among baseball writers alone, i suspect keith law and rany jazayerli and jonah keri have much more useful things to say about politics.

in this particular piece, i find his suggestions risible. these are not ideas on how the democrats can win kansas; they are ideas on how the democrats can win his (idiosyncratic) personal full support.

a package of severe inheritance taxes, intense business regulation, free college education, and massive support for inner cities doesn't really sound like a winner in kansas. nor do these interventionist policies square with his insistence that national health care be jettisoned.

Well, it is every bit as despicable to call someone a racist who is not a racist as it is to actually be a racist; in fact, I would argue that it is more despicable to do this, since it both promotes racism and debases public discourse.

this is straight-up bullshit, as is his insistence that neither trump nor jeff sessions nor anyone involved is a *real* racist.

if bill james wants to talk about baseball i'd be happy to listen. he has no particular expertise elsewhere and his (horribly written) political tracts are no different than any other 67-year-old dude ranting on facebook.

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 January 2017 01:56 (seven years ago) link

Explanations help--much prefer that kind of response than the one-line dismissal.

I think he goes a little off the rails when he argues for the Nazi-in-all-of-us. I'm pretty self-critical, I think--have often written about my passive-aggressive vindictiveness--but I don't think I'm secretly harboring a Nazi inside.

I was surprised he went anywhere near race. He regularly ducks baseball questions that are too close to his job with the Red Sox, so why he thought that would be a good subject to take up, I don't know. I think some of what he says is good: "You’re letting David Duke out of his cage. If you call a million people racists, he’s just one of the millions, just another guy," and "you might as well put $20 in an envelope and mail it to Rush Limbaugh." The line you quoted above--the "more despicable" formulation--no.

I don't know if his prescriptions more accurately represent Kansas or him alone. He's been writing about Kansas regularly for almost 40 years, so I'm inclined to trust that he has some understanding of the subject, but I really don't know.

Other than choosing to write it as an open letter, a device I never like, couldn't disagree more with "horribly written." I think his influence as a writer may even outweigh his influence as a baseball analyst.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 January 2017 05:54 (seven years ago) link

Knowing almost nothing abt SABR/James apart from a skimread of Moneyball once, I gave his true crime bk a go a little while back and thought it was atrocious - ignorant, reactionary, bombastic and self-regarding. And yes, horribly written. I mean, I don't like Christgau, and have huge problems w/ Kael and Marcus, but all three of them can turn a sentence on occasion, whereas James really can't (I was just about to write that he reads like a typical pompous old git on Facebook until I saw mookieproof's final sentence!)

Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 29 January 2017 11:11 (seven years ago) link

I read very little true crime, but I liked James's book just fine (since then, I've read books about Paul Bernardo, Charles Whitman, Richard Speck, and Manson). We must have very different Facebook feeds--the people over 50 on mine aren't the problem.

Sensing there's not a great future for this discussion. But I do agree Kael can turn a sentence on occasion.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 January 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link

That article was very James-ian, that's for sure. I agreed strongly with some parts, shook my head in frustration in other parts, and wondered why he took so long to get to the point for at least half of it. In other words, I had much the same reaction as I do with his baseball writing.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 30 January 2017 12:02 (seven years ago) link

He just opened it up to reader comments last night--waited two days before doing so; good idea with contentious online material, I think, forces people to think about what they want to say, instead of just venting--and it looks like he'll be putting in some time defending parts of it. (The early focus seems to be the idea that Clinton is as corrupt as Trump.) I like the way one reader puts it:

"I think there's a split in the article, between (1) the basic message -- which I think is just about 100% right on (and yes, as was suggested in a 'Hey Bill' post, I hope it will be widely disseminated); and (2) the specific suggestions, which I think are problematic, no less so than the specific things that the Democratic Party was putting forth."

clemenza, Monday, 30 January 2017 12:36 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Blaming Republicans for Trump is like blaming Poland for Adolph. He invaded the party and took over. What were they supposed to do about it?

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) August 5, 2017

missed this bit of keen political insight

mookieproof, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link

hahaha

wow

i'm gonna guess he still doesn't think trump and sessions are racists

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

I can read some of his political stuff; sometimes I just stop and head elsewhere. The worst thing is, when people write in to question him on something, he's at his most abrasive. (Aka, rudest.) I think he said he voted for Hillary, reluctantly.

clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link

was there any other way?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 September 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

He's got a new book coming out next week. Not about Trump, so it should be safe. (Evidently co-written with his daughter.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

If the Orioles traded Manny Machado, I don't know if they would stay in competition this summer.

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) May 1, 2018

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

Sometimes I feel like a fatherless child.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

okay, this was funny

Did you know that Mike Trout has never in his career been credited with a Sacrifice Bunt? Complete player, my ass. . .

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) May 23, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Giving money to political candidates is NOT helpful. What is helpful is NOT giving money to political candidates. If you have a Dumpster Fire on your left and a Dumpster Fire on your right, you don't put firewood in either dumpster. https://t.co/z8Gtbp9U0a

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) June 15, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 15 June 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

Is he a libertarian?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 15 June 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

Not a Pandora's Box worth opening...

clemenza, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

you should never put firewood in any dumpster, regardless of whether it's on fire or not

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

His Twitter feed is on the front page of his site now. He's got a poll question up there this morning: "If you could have Bryce Harper or Andrew Benintendi for the rest of his career, who would you want?"

Answer aside, I believe that's what's called sticking-it-to-you on Seinfeld.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link

There's a card of him this year you can also get as a poster.

https://www.topps.com/2018-topps-allen-and-ginter-bill-james-base-poster-d-to-99.html

timellison, Saturday, 21 July 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link

lol

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

you should absolutely demand that he list the first 25 tho

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

He's also oblivious to the film's history. "It's an almost unwatchable movie much admired by pretentious twits who base their opinions on what the critics tell them." The Searchers would have been totally ignored by whatever pretentious twits walked the earth in 1956--that's not the path it took to its present-day stature.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:00 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Not behind the paywall, I don't think.

https://www.billjamesonline.com/the_great_player_of_year_x/

clemenza, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

How to save yourself the cost of hiring someone to poll your demographics:

The first player you clearly remember seeing (live or on TV) was a contemporary of:

(If you're too young to remember any, please choose 4th group. Thank you.)

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) January 17, 2023

clemenza, Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:38 (one year ago) link

No votes for Old Hoss Radbourn.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Twitter poll I find funny:

Who do you want to bring back to television?

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) April 25, 2023

clemenza, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

Tweet the other day: "If the Yankee fans somehow get Munson into the Hall of Fame, then we DEFINITELY should get Varitek in." (Followed later by "I'm signing off Twitter for the day. Those of you who wish to contribute to the barrage of personal insults following the Thurman Munson jokes will have to wait until tomorrow until I can block you.")

He has this weird hate-on for Munson. I looked at the two of them, Munson and Varitek--if he wasn't joking, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't, I don't see the comparison. They had almost the same number of career PA, and it's hard to find anywhere where Munson wasn't clearly superior, even with the shortened career. Admittedly, he was starting to decline the year of the plane crash, so his career rate stats almost certainly would have been less impressive had he played to 39 like Varitek, but what happened happened.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 May 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link

Wonder how he feels about Posey

omar little, Thursday, 25 May 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link

I know he was running a Twitter poll the other day on Posey vs. Mauer, and he made some comment about them both being great players. There was a lot of commentary about the numerous Posey/Munson similarities when Posey retired, so, to my mind, there's some inconsistency there (i.e., of course agree with him about Posey, but don't see why he doesn't grant the same to Munson).

clemenza, Thursday, 25 May 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

Thought this bump was going to be about this.

The only thing I will concede about Thurman Munson is that he was probably a better baseball player than he was a pilot.

Note that I said "probably".

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) May 23, 2023



Fucked up thing to say.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

Terrible, I agree. I defend him about lots, and he'll always be one of the key influences on me, but that's indefensible--I think he was really taken to task for it, and, as per his follow-up, got really defensive and snippy--and his inability to see how good a player Munson was is perplexing.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Damn:

https://www.billjamesonline.com/a_sunset_over_the_hill/

I complain lots about the way he conducts himself with readers--he recently shot down a Manoah-related question I sent in (not too pointedly, actually)--but knowing I could send in a question any time and count on most of them being answered, that was great. And I liked his right-hand guy, Dave Fleming, a lot.

If a couple of good books come out of this, that'll at least be something.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link

I found gyac's home/road thing with the Rays really interesting, so--possibly the last time I'll ever do this--I sent in a "Hey Bill."

Bill -- I will miss this...Someone on a message board today noticed the Rays' extreme home/road split, wondering if that was unusual. So I looked into it: it would seem so for teams this good. All post-war teams that have won 108 games or more, with their home/road winning percentages:

(same data as above)

I guess the question is, is this just a meaningless blip, or does it suggest some flukiness to the Rays that will catch up to them?
Asked by: Phil Dellio

Answered: 6/15/2023
There is not space left in the season that you would PREDICT it would catch up with them. Odds are it will flatten out a little bit.

Not 100% sure, but I take his answer to mean that he also thinks their home/road record will converge a bit as the season goes on.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 June 2023 12:16 (one year ago) link

Posnanski wrote about James pulling the plug the other day--paywall, so I put it on a Google Doc if you're interested.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GrfQNWNZm8OiGb3-iu-lwBL-0N7slYCSuTJyasxTsiM/edit?usp=sharing

clemenza, Saturday, 17 June 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

You may argue for Lou Whitaker for the Hall of Fame, but you have to admit that Robinson Cano...
Asked by: JackKeefe

Answered: 6/30/2023
I think we're done here.

(... = I'm cutting the rest of what you say)

Will miss "Hey Bill" a lot. I won't miss that.

clemenza, Saturday, 1 July 2023 07:01 (one year ago) link

If Justin Verlander wins 300 games, how long will it be before someone says that no one else will ever do it?

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) July 3, 2023

Based on past history, that's funny. But 1) I'd give Verlander about a 1% chance of winning 300, and 2) they'd probably be right this time anyway (barring drastic and unforeseen changes in the game, which, in fairness, is implicit in James's tweet--he's always writing that it's a mistake to assume that what's true now will continue to be true down the road).

clemenza, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Quite likely my last "Hey Bill" (site shuts down next month):

Bill - Thanks for answering my many questions over the years (117 by my count--I went through and saved them). One more before you go.

What I am I missing with Rougned Odor--meaning, how does he keep a job? His batting averages the last five seasons (working backwards) have been .203, .207, .202, .167, .205. In fairness, the first of those seasons he hit 30 HR, and he was in double figures the next three seasons (but probably not this year). He doesn't appear to be an outstanding fielder, he strikes out a lot and doesn't walk much, and he doesn't steal bases anymore. Does he have a reputation as the greatest clubhouse guy in the world?

I may be a little biased here as a Jays fan who remembers his dust-up with Bautista.
Asked by: Phil Dellio

Answered: 8/21/2023
Juan Samuel syndrome. Juan Samuel was kind of a sensation when he first came up, very young, a second baseman, extremely fast. He was perceived as a potential superstar in the building.

He struck out a lot, couldn't actually play second base (or any other position) very well, and he didn't get better. His weaknesses kind of swallowed him up, but it took a long time for the league to come to grips with what had happened to him. He was still a "great athlete," still had star potential. It took a long time for EVERYBODY to accept that this is just what he is. No matter where you put him, there is some reason that it doesn't work.

Assume that was supposed to be "budding," not "building." Anyway, signing off on the Juan Samuel Rule. (Weirdly, I think James once wrote about Juan Samuel in one of the Abstracts in terms of what he called the Walter Matthau Rule--as in, "For everything he brings to a team, what exactly do you do with him?" That was early in Samuel's career, when he was still piling up some impressive bulk numbers.

clemenza, Monday, 21 August 2023 18:52 (eleven months ago) link

Juan Samuel was definitely an exciting player, and it's hard to dismiss a young guy who puts up 30+ doubles, mid to high teens in terms of triples, and the same for HRs. Not to mention 40-70 SBs. His rookie year was truly eye-popping, even w/the lack of walks. It was good enough that he actually landed a single first place ROY vote in a year when the runaway winner with all the other top votes was Dwight Gooden. I also recall some favorable comps to NL MVP Ryne Sandberg; i think that mostly boiled down to the impressive fact they tied for the league lead with 19 triples.

After his 1987 season, it looked like he was going to break through into superstar level, but he never improved and only had a couple more full-time seasons. from '84-'87 i would say he was definitely valuable at the plate, but he was vv memorable as a disappointment thereafter.

omar little, Monday, 21 August 2023 19:21 (eleven months ago) link

Great answer from Bill. Jay Bruce also comes to mind. He was good for many years (but not the superstar that everyone thought he would be) but still got chances from several teams even though he declined rapidly in his 30's.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 21 August 2023 20:35 (eleven months ago) link

Early Juan Samuel: a potential superstar in the building
After six or seven seasons: Juan Samuel has left the building

clemenza, Monday, 21 August 2023 21:24 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

I'd like to nominate Angel Hernandez to be the next Speaker of the House. Just anything to get him off the baseball field. . . .

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) October 4, 2023

clemenza, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:25 (nine months ago) link

Bill James, despite his faults, does pop out some all time tweets

H.P, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:26 (nine months ago) link

Now that his site's closing down, I'll probably have to do something I've never done before, follow somebody on Twitter.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:28 (nine months ago) link

Noooo, it's a trap!

WmC, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:35 (nine months ago) link

I was thinking that Angel Hernandez must be the most unifying force in baseball.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:00 (nine months ago) link

There’s several Jomboy videos about him, there’s one with Kyle Schwarber absolutely losing it at him and getting (deservedly) tossed, and then the Phillies manager is out there trying to put a diplomatic face on it. Incredible guy.

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:18 (nine months ago) link

lol I'd take Ángel Hernández over Jim Jordan or Steve Scalise as Speaker any day

felicity, Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:56 (nine months ago) link

Win-win, as the saying goes.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:30 (nine months ago) link

four weeks pass...

The site is lingering longer than it was supposed to, but nothing new has been posted for a while. The starting pitcher rankings seem to have been updated, though, right through to the end of the World Series going by Merrill Kelly's placement. Last one ever, then:

http://www.billjamesonline.com/polls_ratings/starting_pitcher_rankings/

1. Gerrit Cole
2. Zack Wheeler
3. Blake Snell
4. Corbin Burnes
5. Merrill Kelly
6. Zac Gallen
7. Spencer Strider
8. Shohei Ohtani
9. Justin Verlander
10. Logan Webb

clemenza, Saturday, 4 November 2023 20:02 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

First I've heard about this:

About a week ago I suffered a stroke. I am more or less OK. I am not in ANY pain. I can walk normally and take care of myself, but my right hand is messed up and interferes with my ability to do things like tweet. Thank you all for your support.

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) January 26, 2024

clemenza, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:39 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

Regarding Bauer, there is loud contingent shouting "There is only ONE acceptable opinion here, you HAVE to agree with us or you're a terrible person." Whenever one side of the argument sounds like that, I take a more careful look at the other side.

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) March 26, 2024

here’s our lovable brain damaged legend

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:32 (three months ago) link

Funny, cos I’m sure Bill is more empirical about things like “four separate accusers”, “once harassed a teenage girl by sending her dozens of tweets because she said she didn’t like him” and so on. Honestly beyond me that someone didn’t delete his account for his own good years ago.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:34 (three months ago) link

Saw this come up again in light of his recent comments:

Was explaining to my wife and our friends about the time I got into a Twitter spat with Bill James that directly led to the MLBPA rebuking him and the Boston Red Sox distancing themselves from him, a real Twitter highlight for me https://t.co/z8H7mPcTEB

— Chris Towers is the Riley Greene Preservation Soc (@CTowersCBS) July 20, 2022

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:38 (three months ago) link

bill has been brain damaged for years now. sad but just is what it is

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 00:08 (three months ago) link

from his daughter on bluesky:

any time you think "wow i'd like to be a nepotism baby" i encourage you to think about what your dad might post were he in the position to give out said nepotism

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 19:46 (three months ago) link

lol, sympathy acquired

H.P, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:05 (three months ago) link

his latest tweet is praising Joe Lieberman as "the only Democrat who would stand up for Rush Limbaugh's right to speak" (???)

jaymc, Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:04 (three months ago) link

mods, please change the title of this thread to "Bill James RIP".

signed,

OP

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:06 (three months ago) link

Philosophical Q. Suppose your dog has been taught not to do something and usually doesn't, but has a breakdown and does it, and gives you that guilty look. Is that the same as knowing right from wrong, for a human & in a legal sense? Or is knowing right from Wr a broader concept?

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) March 28, 2024

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:40 (three months ago) link

i prefer not to speak.gif

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:02 (three months ago) link

Wait Bill's dogposting now? Refollowed

H.P, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:18 (three months ago) link

Is Bill working up to a confession here or

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:44 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

trevor bauer's sad plight continues to weigh on bill james, employment law expert

https://i.imgur.com/cQ9beBs.jpeg

mookieproof, Friday, 21 June 2024 03:11 (one month ago) link

A billion dollars!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 21 June 2024 07:36 (one month ago) link

he seems very concerned about MLB's finances, big of him

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 21 June 2024 10:43 (one month ago) link

james's daughter wrote (and deleted) on bluesky today that (i am paraphrasing):

having been told he was wrong (about baseball analytics) for decades and ultimately being proved correct gave bill the conviction that a) he is right about everything, and b) he grows even *more* convinced when people tell him that he's wrong. even when those people are his own family

sounds like a bad scene

mookieproof, Friday, 21 June 2024 23:48 (one month ago) link

The biggest problem with James right now is how arrogant he’s become. He was ornery and stubborn when he wrote the Abstracts, but 1) that’s not as annoying when you’re a voice in the wilderness rather than (more or less) a well-paid, establishment guy, and 2) his arrogance has grown a hundred fold since then. And he always excuses this the same way: I was right about how important walks were, and I was right about how overrated stealing and bunting were, and I was right about Bobby Grich and Darrell Evans and the Pythagorean Theorem and just about everything else I proposed 40 years ago, so I’m also right about everything I say now. Very few people realized that then, and very few people realize that now--eventually, everybody will.

― clemenza, Thursday, November 8, 2018

clemenza, Friday, 21 June 2024 23:59 (one month ago) link

(Just to clarify, I am not his daughter.)

clemenza, Saturday, 22 June 2024 00:00 (one month ago) link

I am unsadly blocked by Bill James on Twitter, which gives me joy knowing that he saw something I said to him and it annoyed him, and bro, WHAT

Listen to this clip, and think about what Dick Allen went through. And then, think about how Bill James wrote how much of a terrible person Allen was; helped keep him out of the HOF. If you think James is reflective today, he's talking about giving Trevor Bauer a 2nd chance. https://t.co/yoI28VPmkk

— Steamboat Philly (@YoshkeZoidberg) June 21, 2024



Like actually?

I found Bill James own scoring system for his Fantasy Baseball league and scored all players with 1000 games between 1960-1980
Guess who ranked 2nd (behind only Aaron) in points per game?https://t.co/KCbJaHAoa2

— Drew Davis (@drewdavis71) June 21, 2024



Tl;dr

bill james deciding it was time to cape for trevor bauer on the day mlb was honoring willie mays and the negro leagues at rickwood was sure a choice

— Brian Floyd (@BrianMFloyd) June 21, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 22 June 2024 09:07 (one month ago) link


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