― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Scott Gray is a musician and nonfiction writer. He served as consulting editor on a series of nine sports titles for Ballantine and is the author of:
Chicks Rule: The Story of the Dixie ChicksHeart Song: The Story of JewelOn Her Way: The Shania Twain StoryPerfect Harmony: The Faith Hill and Tim McGraw Story.Livin' On Country: The Alan Jackson Story
He was raised in Oklahoma and lives in New York City and Charlottesville, VA.
I think it's Yanc3y's pseudonym.
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 27 October 2005 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:18 (fifteen years ago) link
― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I can attest that Bill is not as svelte as the bobblehead (last I saw him).
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
--writer Bill James, on using baseball statistics to understand the game (Palm Beach Post)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
he'll be appearing on The Simpsons this season
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:32 (ten years ago) link
a harvard lampoon alum wrote him in no doubt
― sanskrit, Friday, 6 August 2010 02:17 (ten years ago) link
Different book, but I bought and read this last year:
Truthfully, it wasn't all that exciting. You had a number of contributors saying the same thing 14 different ways.
― clemenza, Friday, 6 August 2010 18:44 (ten years ago) link
pretty sure I overheard Bill telling a Noodles Hahn anecdote this morning
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 August 2010 05:03 (ten years ago) link
bought the paperback historical baseball abstract for $1 @ a book sale and there was a $2 bill inside
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 July 2012 17:53 (eight years ago) link
Hard not to read this thread title as akin to Ronny James Dio.
― congratulations (n/a), Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link
Has he (or anyone similar) ever written about team win/loss streaks... in season only, not the plexiglass principle.
― queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:37 (eight years ago) link
Probably the year after the Tigers' 35-5 start (meaning the '85 Abstract), James wrote a long thing on when a fast start starts to become significant; i.e., 5-0 doesn't mean much, 10-0 means a lot, etc. That's the only related thing I remember.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:58 (eight years ago) link
A couple of you in the past have indicated that James may have lost something over the years, that he's now part of the same baseball establishment he once questioned at every turn. Most of the time I still love reading him, but sometimes he'll write things that do make me wonder. There were back-to-back "Ask Bill"s this morning that were puzzling.
1) One thing I still remember from an old Abstract is where he tried to systematically look at a player's IQ based on factors like strike-zone judgement, number of caught stealings, the ability to improve over time, etc. I remember he identified Alfredo Griffin as the dumbest player in baseball--he may have stopped short of using those exact words--and, I think, Lou Whitaker as the smartest. He got a question today complaining about Alfonso Soriano, and whether he still thinks baseball intelligence can be quantified.
"I don't think you can reliably infer intelligence from a player's baseball statistics, no. I do think we could do a better job of charting on-field mistakes, and perhaps in that way identifying players who just don't play the game very well."
2) Right before that, there was a question on whether or not to shut down Strasburg, which was basically the exact same question he fielded a month ago.
(July 13) "No, I wouldn't shut him down. I never understood the logic by which limiting the growth of innings pitched year to year could protect a pitcher, and I think most serious analysts agree that that was just sloppy research."
(today) "Well...I think (shutting him down) is reasonable, yes...Strasburg is coming back from Tommy John, and he is still very young. You're asking him to do A LOT for a pitcher one year away from Tommy John, and you're exposing a 23, 24-year-old pitcher to a full workload."
Not that I know the right answer myself, but there's quite a disconnect there.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:57 (eight years ago) link
The first problem seemed poorly stated to begin with. And what's so strange about him changing his mind 30 years later? I'm sure that plenty of things in the early Abstracts were written on a whim anyway.
There isn't necessarily a contradiction in the Strasburg stuff ... I would agree that it's reasonable to shut him down, but at the same time, I wouldn't do it.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:25 (eight years ago) link
I'm always quoting and defending James, so it's weird for me to take the other side. Changing or modifying your views over time, especially as it relates to the availability of more and better information, is a good thing--actually, James's vigilance against being boxed in by dogma is one of the greatest things about him. The reason the first one caught my eye is that it does seem to line up with the idea that he's more reluctant to pointedly criticize players since he joined the Red Sox. This makes sense--once you've had more direct contact with players on the inside, it stands to reason you're a little more guarded about doing things like trying to quantify their intelligence. (Not to mention that people generally soften with age anyway.) It's just something I noticed.
With Strasburg (I didn't quote either of his answers in full), more than the first issue, I do find the contrast strange. His first response was an emphatic no, there's no reason to shut him down (the rest of his answer: "I think they need to be careful with Strasburg, perhaps limit his pitches, be extra careful about looking for signs of fatigue. But drawing an innings limit and pretending that that's somehow going to protect him is perilously close to magical thinking"). The second could have come from the Nationals' GM himself.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:42 (eight years ago) link
did anyone read his true crime book
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 24 May 2013 17:18 (seven years ago) link
Yeah. He's kind of a nut nowadays, but I thought it was a fun read.
― Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 24 May 2013 18:50 (seven years ago) link
I read the crime book and--no bias here--liked it fine. Don't think I've read any true-crime books other than In Cold Blood, though, so that was a limitation of sorts.
― clemenza, Friday, 24 May 2013 19:32 (seven years ago) link
i heard it was kinda wackadoo
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 24 May 2013 19:40 (seven years ago) link
It is kinda, but that's almost part of its charm. He keeps coming up with formulas to calculate like "how sordid was this crime on a scale of 1-20" or whatever, it's pretty funny.
― Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 24 May 2013 19:50 (seven years ago) link
Bobby Valentine said he didn't hear from Bill once when he managed Boston, so if he's a nut he may be crazy like a fox.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 May 2013 22:48 (seven years ago) link
Won't be able to read this till later tonight. It's long, free for now, and surely has lots for everyone to hate.
― clemenza, Friday, 27 January 2017 23:08 (four years ago) link
mostly just clueless
― mookieproof, Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:04 (four years ago) link
"But it rather seems to me that you could and should have won this election by, oh, I don’t know, 538 to nothing or thereabouts" is a good place to start.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:45 (four years ago) link
This is not directed at you personally, mookie, but I don't really understand the ILX tendency to brush aside people like James, Marcus, and Christgau--older writers who don't necessarily have the visibility or the influence they once had; I suspect if Kael were still writing, especially somewhere other than the New Yorker, she'd get the same treatment--with curt dismissals. Your post reminds me of some of the reaction when I linked to Marcus explaining months ago why Trump might win. I don't agree with everything James writes, but there's a lot there, and I'd say at least half of it is spot-on. It's as good an election postmortem as just about anything I've read from people who write about politics for a living.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2017 14:48 (four years ago) link
haha i actually thought about going deeper last night but figured why bother. 'clueless' was the wrong adjective, tbf.
i haven't read a great deal of james, marcus or christgau. i have nothing at all against marcus. i think christgau is a prick and while i respect his sheer dedication to listening to literally everything, i've generally found his reviews to be useless. it's impressive that he turned being gnomic into a career, but whatever.
i respect james' grasp of statistics and willingness to challenge the received baseball wisdom of 30-40 years ago. he was a pioneer and his ideas have won the day in the game. i don't think any of that makes him a particularly insightful political commentator. among baseball writers alone, i suspect keith law and rany jazayerli and jonah keri have much more useful things to say about politics.
in this particular piece, i find his suggestions risible. these are not ideas on how the democrats can win kansas; they are ideas on how the democrats can win his (idiosyncratic) personal full support.
a package of severe inheritance taxes, intense business regulation, free college education, and massive support for inner cities doesn't really sound like a winner in kansas. nor do these interventionist policies square with his insistence that national health care be jettisoned.
Well, it is every bit as despicable to call someone a racist who is not a racist as it is to actually be a racist; in fact, I would argue that it is more despicable to do this, since it both promotes racism and debases public discourse.
this is straight-up bullshit, as is his insistence that neither trump nor jeff sessions nor anyone involved is a *real* racist.
if bill james wants to talk about baseball i'd be happy to listen. he has no particular expertise elsewhere and his (horribly written) political tracts are no different than any other 67-year-old dude ranting on facebook.
― mookieproof, Sunday, 29 January 2017 01:56 (four years ago) link
Explanations help--much prefer that kind of response than the one-line dismissal.
I think he goes a little off the rails when he argues for the Nazi-in-all-of-us. I'm pretty self-critical, I think--have often written about my passive-aggressive vindictiveness--but I don't think I'm secretly harboring a Nazi inside.
I was surprised he went anywhere near race. He regularly ducks baseball questions that are too close to his job with the Red Sox, so why he thought that would be a good subject to take up, I don't know. I think some of what he says is good: "You’re letting David Duke out of his cage. If you call a million people racists, he’s just one of the millions, just another guy," and "you might as well put $20 in an envelope and mail it to Rush Limbaugh." The line you quoted above--the "more despicable" formulation--no.
I don't know if his prescriptions more accurately represent Kansas or him alone. He's been writing about Kansas regularly for almost 40 years, so I'm inclined to trust that he has some understanding of the subject, but I really don't know.
Other than choosing to write it as an open letter, a device I never like, couldn't disagree more with "horribly written." I think his influence as a writer may even outweigh his influence as a baseball analyst.
― clemenza, Sunday, 29 January 2017 05:54 (four years ago) link
Knowing almost nothing abt SABR/James apart from a skimread of Moneyball once, I gave his true crime bk a go a little while back and thought it was atrocious - ignorant, reactionary, bombastic and self-regarding. And yes, horribly written. I mean, I don't like Christgau, and have huge problems w/ Kael and Marcus, but all three of them can turn a sentence on occasion, whereas James really can't (I was just about to write that he reads like a typical pompous old git on Facebook until I saw mookieproof's final sentence!)
― Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 29 January 2017 11:11 (four years ago) link
I read very little true crime, but I liked James's book just fine (since then, I've read books about Paul Bernardo, Charles Whitman, Richard Speck, and Manson). We must have very different Facebook feeds--the people over 50 on mine aren't the problem.
Sensing there's not a great future for this discussion. But I do agree Kael can turn a sentence on occasion.
― clemenza, Sunday, 29 January 2017 14:36 (four years ago) link
That article was very James-ian, that's for sure. I agreed strongly with some parts, shook my head in frustration in other parts, and wondered why he took so long to get to the point for at least half of it. In other words, I had much the same reaction as I do with his baseball writing.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 30 January 2017 12:02 (four years ago) link
He just opened it up to reader comments last night--waited two days before doing so; good idea with contentious online material, I think, forces people to think about what they want to say, instead of just venting--and it looks like he'll be putting in some time defending parts of it. (The early focus seems to be the idea that Clinton is as corrupt as Trump.) I like the way one reader puts it:
"I think there's a split in the article, between (1) the basic message -- which I think is just about 100% right on (and yes, as was suggested in a 'Hey Bill' post, I hope it will be widely disseminated); and (2) the specific suggestions, which I think are problematic, no less so than the specific things that the Democratic Party was putting forth."
― clemenza, Monday, 30 January 2017 12:36 (four years ago) link
Blaming Republicans for Trump is like blaming Poland for Adolph. He invaded the party and took over. What were they supposed to do about it?— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) August 5, 2017
missed this bit of keen political insight
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:03 (three years ago) link
i'm gonna guess he still doesn't think trump and sessions are racists
― Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:27 (three years ago) link
I can read some of his political stuff; sometimes I just stop and head elsewhere. The worst thing is, when people write in to question him on something, he's at his most abrasive. (Aka, rudest.) I think he said he voted for Hillary, reluctantly.
― clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:43 (three years ago) link
was there any other way?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 September 2017 02:43 (three years ago) link
He's got a new book coming out next week. Not about Trump, so it should be safe. (Evidently co-written with his daughter.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:15 (three years ago) link
If the Orioles traded Manny Machado, I don't know if they would stay in competition this summer.— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) May 1, 2018
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 17:52 (two years ago) link
Sometimes I feel like a fatherless child.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:41 (two years ago) link
okay, this was funny
Did you know that Mike Trout has never in his career been credited with a Sacrifice Bunt? Complete player, my ass. . .— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) May 23, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:49 (two years ago) link
Giving money to political candidates is NOT helpful. What is helpful is NOT giving money to political candidates. If you have a Dumpster Fire on your left and a Dumpster Fire on your right, you don't put firewood in either dumpster. https://t.co/z8Gtbp9U0a— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) June 15, 2018
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 15 June 2018 21:43 (two years ago) link
Is he a libertarian?
Not a Pandora's Box worth opening...
― clemenza, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:47 (two years ago) link
you should never put firewood in any dumpster, regardless of whether it's on fire or not
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 June 2018 21:49 (two years ago) link
His Twitter feed is on the front page of his site now. He's got a poll question up there this morning: "If you could have Bryce Harper or Andrew Benintendi for the rest of his career, who would you want?"
Answer aside, I believe that's what's called sticking-it-to-you on Seinfeld.
― clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2018 13:11 (two years ago) link
There's a card of him this year you can also get as a poster.
― timellison, Saturday, 21 July 2018 22:10 (two years ago) link
I bought the big Win Shares book online a few years after it came out. Didn't get very far into it. The explanation of the methodology was pretty heavy going, but the bigger problem was that my copy, which was supposed to be "very good," had pages ready to fall out.
― clemenza, Friday, 9 November 2018 12:33 (two years ago) link
I think one also has to remember that James has been in baseball management for a decade and a half. He’s certainly starting to sound like somebody ready to go to war with the MLBPA, and I think Tony Clark (whose overall job performance is still pretty lousy) was right to issue his rebuke.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 November 2018 12:40 (two years ago) link
He was stepping lightly for a day, anyway. He has a Twitter poll up today:
Most Worthy of the Presidential Medal of Freedom
Babe RuthElvis PresleyOrin HatchAntonin Scalia
"Maybe twitter is...an even poorer medium for him than it is for everyone else."
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 November 2018 02:31 (two years ago) link
Bill James is still probably my fave baseball writer by peak value. Like my fave rapper, KRS-One, he passed his prime at least 25 years ago, now says dumb stuff, and i have no reason to believe i'd find the current work of either compelling.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 November 2018 03:55 (two years ago) link
bill james is a HOF lock by JAWS but needs to retire so he can gain eligibility
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 November 2018 03:57 (two years ago) link
bill james is pete rose if he kept going until 1989
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 November 2018 03:58 (two years ago) link
bill james productions, statistical minded
― mookieproof, Sunday, 11 November 2018 04:02 (two years ago) link
The Modern Game committee voted Harold Baines and Lee Smith into the HOF this weekend. Is it possible the Russians hacked THIS election, too?Asked by: ajmilner
Answered: 12/11/2018The Russians were exhausted from getting Vladimir elected last year.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:47 (two years ago) link
Referring to statements earlier today suggesting Football analysis is limited. . .Cris Collinsworth just said that "Hurries" in football predict sacks better than sacks do. Somebody's doing some pretty good analysis.— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) December 17, 2018
bill james being a cris collinsworth fan says a lot
― k3vin k., Monday, 17 December 2018 04:25 (two years ago) link
"Somehow we have developed this large contingent of know-it-all baseball fans who bay like wounded coyotes at any mention of wins, losses, RBI or batting average. I never know whether I should blame myself for this or not."
― clemenza, Sunday, 27 January 2019 00:44 (two years ago) link
i only bay like a wounded coyote with wins and losses. i zone out at a mention of RBI, and batting average is fine
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 27 January 2019 00:47 (two years ago) link
but yes he should actually blame himself for that, at least partly
I waddle like a penguin whenever Ron Cey is mentioned.
― clemenza, Sunday, 27 January 2019 00:48 (two years ago) link
or Burgess Meredith
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 January 2019 05:31 (two years ago) link
This made me laugh.
James has been going over all the Cy Young winners and comparing the results to the B-Ref winner (by WAR), the Fangraphs winner, and his own winner by something called D-WAR (I think that's his winner--I can't locate the original explanation). Anyway, looking at the 2013 AL winner, he wrote this the other day: "Hisashi Iwakuma, really? Where is that one coming from? Can you find anyone who agrees with you about this?" ("You" meaning one of the other systems that arrived at Iwakuma.)
In the comments, a reader responded: "Well, win shares:
Iwakuma, 20.5 Scherzer, 19.9
Sort of the advanced metric of record on this site."
― clemenza, Saturday, 2 March 2019 20:19 (two years ago) link
Haven't listened, but an hour-long interview with James from a year-and-a-half ago.
― clemenza, Saturday, 1 June 2019 21:06 (one year ago) link
Does anyone besides me pay the $3/month for his site? It's his, so he gets to do what he wants, but he's spent the last three or four or thirty-nine months doing these political polls, and he's now ending them because he's decided people are flooding the results for certain candidates. They seemed like a waste of time right from the start. Meanwhile, his HOF polls continue, and some of those are interesting--the groupings are competitive maybe, I don't know, a quarter of the time--but way too many are like this one: Steve Garvey, Orel Hershiser, Clayton Kershaw, Maury Wills. Do you really need to poll that?
I wish he'd just go back to answering reader questions and posting the occasional baseball piece.
― clemenza, Saturday, 24 August 2019 04:27 (one year ago) link
maury wills 100%, he's up there with harold baines
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 August 2019 05:13 (one year ago) link
i do, however, really appreciate maury wills as an example of what billy hamilton would be if he could hit a little bit
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 August 2019 05:14 (one year ago) link
Wills could get by with his OBP in an offense-depressed era
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 24 August 2019 11:52 (one year ago) link
He had a dryly sarcastic tweet up last night aimed at the Red Sox starters. Gone today.
― clemenza, Sunday, 20 October 2019 19:02 (one year ago) link
Via his website, Bill James announced his departure from the Red Sox after 17 seasons on “the best possible terms.”— Pete Abraham (@PeteAbe) October 24, 2019
― mookieproof, Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:53 (one year ago) link
now he can get down to his true passion: the 2020 election
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:56 (one year ago) link
― timellison, Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:28 (one year ago) link
Obviously it's not any one thing that triggered this, but I'm sure his tweet the other night--the one that mildly mocked Boston's starters and was removed within a day--didn't help. Just in general, he never should have started on Twitter.
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:43 (one year ago) link
This is what he tweeted, by the way (still comes up in a Google search): "Yankees gave up three in the first. Hey; I thought we had a patent on that strategy."
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 October 2019 18:47 (one year ago) link
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 October 2019 21:15 (one year ago) link
I haven't cared about his opinion on anything in... decades? ... but is he a Trumpist or an anti-lefty grouser?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 October 2019 21:39 (one year ago) link
My vague sense is mostly the latter, but with enough grouse for everyone.
― Galangal Baker (WmC), Thursday, 24 October 2019 21:55 (one year ago) link
I liked the recent piece on Norm Cash.
― timellison, Friday, 25 October 2019 00:25 (one year ago) link
I mean, the guy is a genius, come on. He hasn't had anything interesting to say about baseball in decades?
― timellison, Friday, 25 October 2019 00:27 (one year ago) link
I didn't say that. I said I don't care. He was pretty fascinating to me from '87 thru maybe late '90s. Others built on his work.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 October 2019 00:36 (one year ago) link
He still posts good stuff on baseball, although he sometimes seems oblivious to the fact that he's rehashing old research. (Which, if you invented the field, you're entitled to do, but he'll throw in a minor tweak and treat something like it's brand new.)
My biggest complaint against him the past two or three years is summed up by a tweet from a couple of days ago:
As long as I have been writing, people have been telling me to stick to baseball. On Twitter I just automatically block anybody who says that, but the people who wrote me letters to tell me that 40 years ago, I always wonder if they are still reading or not.— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) October 23, 2019
"I just automatically block anybody..."
I understand that endless arguments are wearing. But his skin gets thinner and thinner all the time. I don't follow Twitter, so I don't know what people have been tweeting at him, but I know I was exasperated by his political polls too, especially as someone who was paying for his site. So I'm guessing that some of those people who were blocked weren't saying don't write about non-baseball things (which the Abstracts were full of--if you're a James fan, that was one of the great things about the Abstracts), they were saying just stop writing about this one particular thing. And if you block everybody who's not telling you how great you are, you're left with nothing but people telling you how great you are.
― clemenza, Friday, 25 October 2019 00:42 (one year ago) link
pure clemenza bait
Yeah. . .to be honest, I don't really get why people think The French Connection is a great movie. Can somebody explain that to me in Twitter-Space?— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) January 30, 2020
― mookieproof, Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:13 (one year ago) link
That he's often terrible on movies is one thing you can get me to agree with (he went on some rant about Boyhood a few years ago that I found ridiculous, or at least that he was applying certain complaints to that particular film), but in this case, I'm pretty much on the same page; not a film I've ever been big on.
― clemenza, Friday, 31 January 2020 01:21 (one year ago) link
love a false binary
Do you agree that it is SO unfair that JT Realmuto has to play this season for just $10 million?— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) February 21, 2020
― mookieproof, Friday, 21 February 2020 18:13 (one year ago) link
is bill james' all-time favorite pro baseball player dick pole
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:19 (one year ago) link
I've been off James's site for weeks, but this made me laugh just now: "I realized that I was stumbling into a Twitter argument, which is the modern equivalent of interrupting elephants during mating, so I exited the situation as gracefully as I could..."
― clemenza, Monday, 16 March 2020 05:17 (eleven months ago) link
by that measure, elephant bill has tried to sleep with half the savanna
― Karl Malone, Monday, 16 March 2020 14:58 (eleven months ago) link
I'm not on Twitter, but I figured as much. He often complains about rudeness, too, seemingly oblivious to his own (and acronyms, ditto). I still like the line.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 13:23 (eleven months ago) link
Novel twist on the-game-was-better-when-we-played: nostalgia for pandemic names.
I still say "Covid-19" is a crappy name for a plague. I mean, Bubonic Plague, Black Death, Red Death, Polio, Consumption, Tyhpoid, Yellow Fever,. . . these are NAMES. Covid-19 sounds like you died of an entry on a tax form.— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) April 3, 2020
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:26 (ten months ago) link
otm. see also names for military operations
― mookieproof, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:46 (ten months ago) link
He is decidedly not my favourite film critic.
If one person told me that Citizen Kane was the greatest movie ever, 200 did...it's not that good of a movie. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is a MUCH better movie. Cool Hand Luke is a better movie.
― clemenza, Friday, 4 September 2020 01:31 (five months ago) link
I have a project I have worked on off and on for at least seven years called "My 501 Favorite Movies", which might be subtitled a "a biography through film." It’s about my favorite movies, but also about why I liked them, why this movie worked for me, where I was in my life at the time that I saw this movie, etc. I don’t know whether I am ever going to finish that project and get it published, but in any case, because of the discussion going on in "Hey, Bill", I decided to take my comments about a couple of movies and make a little Bill James Online article out of them. I had ranked "The Magnificent Ambersons" as my 212th favorite movie ever, and "The Third Man" as my 4th favorite ever. Just for the hell of it I will throw in my comments about the 1970s movie "I Walk the Line." Thanks for reading.
I don't know if the proposed title is an allusion to Kael's 5001 Nights at the Movies. (I asked him about Kael in a "Hey Bill" once; he didn't seem to know who she was, but maybe he looked into her.) You can put Butch Cassidy and Cool Hand Luke on the list too. And 496 more.
― clemenza, Monday, 7 September 2020 00:42 (five months ago) link
― francisF, Monday, 7 September 2020 06:15 (five months ago) link
It's an obvious reference to frequent On Cinema guest Gregg Turkington's heroic Guinness World Record feat to watch 501 movies in 501 dayshttps://i.imgur.com/OhMH53G.png
― francisF, Monday, 7 September 2020 06:21 (five months ago) link
Buried in a long post today on players who had more WAR than their league's MVP:
"WAR just ignores that, and thus implicitly assumes that the Giants are a better team than the Reds. My opinion is that this is Dumb, but then, nobody asked me. But when you apply it to individuals, Mays winds up with more WAR (8.7 to 7.7), while Robinson winds up with more Win Shares, 41 to 38. I feel strongly that my conclusion is right, Win Shares is right, and theirs is wrong. And I still expect to win the argument eventually, in history, simply because I am right and they are wrong."
No timeline on eventually.
― clemenza, Saturday, 31 October 2020 03:44 (four months ago) link
I was looking for a different thread where I could post this...some thread on "intangibles" or "leadership" or "old baseball players/writers never die." I think there's one like that somewhere, but I can't remember the title.
Anyway, James on the famous 1979 NL MVP race, which he thinks should have gone to Schmidt or Winfield. However:
But also, let's acknowledge OUR blindness. Willie Stargell had real leadership value. Dave Parker told this story...I'm sure he has probably told this story a thousand times, but I happened to hear it directly from him, so it made an impact on me. The Pirates flew in to Montreal for a critical late-season series (almost certainly 9-16-1979). Montreal was technically in first place, 87-57, .604, the Pirates at 88-58, .603. It was Sunday night; they got into Montreal pretty late. The bus driver who picked them up at the airport "got lost" and drove them all over Montreal for 2 hours before he took them to their hotel, and the guys on the bus were angry about it, shouting stuff at the bus driver. Finally Pops (Stargell) stood up and said, "Guys, don't worry about it. You just remember this when we take the field tomorrow." They beat the Expos two in a row. Leadership is a real thing. You win games because of it. David Ortiz and Willie Stargell have a lot of things in common, a lot of things. David just has a natural leadership. He knows how to stand up and say something, when to stand up and say something. We won a lot of games because of it. It's hard to put it on a balance sheet, but it's there.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 04:15 (five hours ago) link
totally told this story before, but
in march of 1977, when i was 5.5 years old, we went to visit my grandmother in florida. (iirc she lived in boca raton, which was well away from bradenton, so maybe my dad was all like fuck that, we're going to bradenton!)
anyway we went to a pirates spring training game, which was a bit less formal 45 years ago, and i was encouraged to go down to the railing to get autographs, which i did, until willie stargell looked at me and said . . . now what do you say? and like a year later i blurted out 'thank you?'
anyway willie stargell by no means deserved the 1979 NL MVP but he was my hero (and i suspect david ortiz may have had a similar impact, which is why i have no qualms whatsoever supporting him for the HoF)
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 04:56 (five hours ago) link
I had never seen his post-2016 thing and wow
This is just... aggressively ahistorical.
If you want a catalogue of your failures along this line perhaps we will do that another time. (Prohibition, Lyndon Johnson’s great society, Bill Clinton’s trade policies, the Warren Court’s willy-nilly extension of legal rights, triggering a massive increase in crime, Obama’s health care initiative.)
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 06:12 (three hours ago) link