It is now time to fall in love with the King, Felix Hernandez

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Last night I got excited about Mariners baseball for the first time since Ichiro got hit #162 last year. Felix dominated the Twins over 8 innings, changing speeds from 97 (even 98 four times!) to 82, flummoxing Twins hitters, and playing great defense. I don't think I've ever seen a teenager pitch like he did last night, with so much control (no walks), so much poise.

Felix's line last night against the Twins:

F. Hernandez (W, 1-1) 8.0 5 0 0 0 6 0 0.69

jerginsk (jergins), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


More bits and pieces:

A far better sportswriter than I (first post):

http://ussmariner.com/?p=2860#comments

pictures:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28128023@N00/sets/729755/

A fascinating breakdown of what Felix threw, from a Twins blogger:

http://www.sethspeaks.net/

jerginsk (jergins), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

He's looked good against the Twins/Tigers (a combined 18.5 games out of the ALWC). Actually he didn't look that impressive against the Tigers, only after he settled down did he find his groove.

Assuming he's pitching every 5th day, he has the following teams to look forward to:
Angels
Twins
Rangers (in Arlington)
Yankees
Angels
Oakland
etc.

Does anybody care about Zach Duke anymore?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 21:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Seth seems to think his audience is special-ed.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 21:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I have Zach Duke and Felix in all of my fantasy leagues.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 21:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I still love you, Zach!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

gygax, yr last line there gives you away. you've picked the wrong rookie to man-crush on and felix & i both know you know it.

bring it on.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

haha, i doubted Zach Duke too! Take those first 2 starts away and he goes from great to good.

All i'm saying is that Felix has his work cut out of him facing some of the AL's most frustrating (OAK) and powerful (NYY) lineups rather than some mid-pack AL Central also-rans.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

BP's Keri (non-premium) on King Felix:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4319


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ok you bring up a v good point BUT

i)i assume you mean "take those first SIX starts away and he goes from great to good".

ii)i just think it's silly to say stuff like that, or "he didn't look THAT good against the tigers -- sure he retired 14 of 16 batters but BEFORE that he looked pretty shaky in his first major league inning ever!"

i mean, why so cynical?


this is an xpost.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i)i assume you mean "take those first SIX starts away and he goes from great to good".

Much of Duke's ado was made after his first 2 starts:

First 2 starts:
ERA - 1.93
WHIP - 0.93
K/BB - 17:2 (8.50)
K/9 - 10.93

Starts 3-7
ERA - 1.38
WHIP - 1.32
K/BB - 18:10 (4.50)
K/9 - 4.96

There is an unmistakable drop-off in performance with the exception of ERA (which we know is not the best indicator of performance).

ii)i just think it's silly to say stuff like that, or "he didn't look THAT good against the tigers -- sure he retired 14 of 16 batters but BEFORE that he looked pretty shaky in his first major league inning ever!"

I'm talking about sample size; I'd like to see how Hernandez performs against teams in contention rather than a couple mediocre teams before people declare how "great" he is.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

that's how i feel about jason schmidt

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


All i'm saying is that Felix has his work cut out of him facing some of the AL's most frustrating (OAK) and powerful (NYY) lineups rather than some mid-pack AL Central also-rans.

The announcement came yesterday that Felix will get one more start against an also-ran (never ran?), pitching Monday vs. Kansas City instead of Sunday against the Angels. So, another chance to build confidence.

jerginsk (jergins), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like how the ILBB commish works the numbers like a mob enforcer working a dope trying to get out of paying the vig.

To wit: Zachariah allowed 12 baserunners (10 H, 2 BB) in 7.1 IP in his last start (against the Dodgers - Duke, come on), and 4 runs. He also allowed 12 baserunners (8 H, 4 BB) against the Rockies on July 21st, but managed to allow zippo in the run column. (Thank you Rockies!) There's that 1.36 WHIP.

His 3rd worst start was his first one (which gygax include in Zack's OMG peroid) against the Milwaukee Cibulas - 7 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, 3 R, and one of two HRs he's allowed so far.

July 7th: shuts down Philly (@ PNC) - 7 IP, 6 H, 1 BB. July 16th: shuts down Cubs in Wrigley - 8 IP, 6 H, 2 BB. July 27th - only pitches 2 innings against Florida before rain delays force him out. August 1st, against the Bravos: 8.1 IP, 7 H, 1 BB, 1 run. Only 2 Ks, tho. And only 4 Ks against the Cubs.

Still, overall: 3 to 1 K / BB ratio, 2 HR in 46.2 IP, 6.75 K / 9 IP, a .254 BAA (comparable to guys like D-Train & J-Schmidt), and on pace for about 50 BB in 200 IP. Not too shabby at all, especially for a 22-year-old, & trying to draw an arbitrary line between his 2nd and 3rd starts to establish some trend is just plain wacky. (It's not likely to continue, but there's nothing he's done to this point that says it can't.)

And there's no doubt in my mind that Felix would make him look like chump change.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

dude, his stuff is undeniable, as is the fact that he's 19, as is his dominance at every level of the minors, as is the fact that he's allowed all of 1ER in his 2 major league starts. every scout and every stathead will tell you he's the best 19 y/o pitcher to come along since gooden. i mean it's a duck for fuck's sake, and TINSTAAPP can eat a dick, i'm not going to hold out on declaring this kid great, sorry.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

if he's really great, he'll get the mariners to the playoffs. it's all about wins, baby.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

THANK YOU JOHN KRUK OF ESPN THE MAGAZINE

JIM THOM (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've seen more than a few quick phenom starts to buy wholesale into the hype. It's all speculation. Let the guys in question play a few more games, I'm all for excersizing a little restraint.

I was thinking that ILB is becoming like ILM in the sense that on ILM some average record leaks and people get caught up in the slsk-search/ysi hype and "minds are blown" and 10.0s are given only to find out in due time that it's just an okay record. Occasionally it turns out to be a good record but calmer heads may prevail.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh ye of little faith.

BTW, Felix = LeBron James + Larry Bird + Wayne Gretzky

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

gygax where do you see this?? i mean, who have we gotten excited about other than felix and dontrelle? (not coincidentally, two players that yr down on)

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

cuz i KNOW you ain't talking about our boy david wright!

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

He plays the game the WRIGHT way!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Um?

David Wright = Emmitt Smith + Michael Jordan + Butterball

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

David Wright = Junior Boys + MIA + Grime + the Village Voice masthead + Jesus + My Hard Dick

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

THE ANGRY INCH!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i mean, who have we gotten excited about other than felix and dontrelle?

Zach Duke, Oliver Perez and Todd Van Poppel.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

this ain't jesse foppert, kid

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I Love the Baseball Hall of Fame

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

As if getting excited is a crime! ANGRY INCH!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What's next - is dancing gonna be a crime?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

introducing yr new ilb!

http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahuntin/photos/boring-jas-fam.jpg

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Let Us Now Praise Cap Anson

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

this ain't jesse foppert, kid
-- John (johndahle...), August 11th, 2005 11:50 AM. (jdahlem)

SF's stud in waiting is Matt(hew) Cain:

23 Starts 9W - 5L
4.64 ERA (ahem, "hitter-friendly PCL" that doesn't seem to affect the A's prospects)
1.35 WHIP (see above)
10.69 K/9
2.23 K/BB

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

FELIX HERNANDEZ JUST STRUCK OUT PLACIDO POLANCO AND OMAR INFANTE HAS THERE EVER BEEN A GREATER PITCHER OH LORD BE KIND WITH ME

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Some dude drafted Joe Mauer with his first round pick in our new keeper league. I laughed and laughed.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

dude, are you indirectly knocking POLANCO now?? the same polanco batting .327 on the year, the one w/ just 9 k's in 166 ABs w/ detroit, the who who's never struck out 50 times in a season ever?? the FUCK is wrong w/ you?

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

another... star on the rise! LET'S GET IT STARTED!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Let Us Now Praise Sedatives

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE ILB'S NEW MODERATOR DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Haha, I love how you guys do this even after I "gave up" on Johan a few weeks back (speaking of, can he strike anybody out anymore?)

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and TINSTAAPP can eat a dick, i'm not going to hold out on declaring this kid great, sorry.

I just feel like Hernandez would really benefit from five or six years' seasoning in the minors. I don't know why that's so hard to grasp!

You Can Teach Pitching: The Dusty Baker Way (dayan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think Felix should pitch until his arm disintegrates and he starts to bleed from his eyes. And then he should become a lefty!

You Can Teach Pitching: The Dallas Green Way (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

How are Schmidt, Wood and Prior doing this year?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Let Us Now Hoist Dusty Baker Upon His Own Petard And Douse Him With Gasoline From Holy Water Vials (And, Hey, A Match)

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

This is clearly one of the greatest threads we've ever had. I just wanted all of you to know that. Unlike ILM and ILE, we don't give enough props to our own meisterworks.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

J-HN D-HL-M:

is there a desperate need to believe that what we're watching RIGHT NOW is and ALWAYS WILL BE the absolute zenith of the ballplayer's greatness?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

did i ever make a claim that felix was the best ever, or even the best in the game? that would be kinda ludicrous, wouldn't it?

right now there's probably equal chances felix ends up prime pedro, aj burnett, or flames out completely. but he is, by almost all accounts, the most exciting pitching prospect to come around in a long time. and as far as i'm concerned to repeatedly deny yrself the chance to appreciate what he's accomplished and is capable of accomplishing in the name of some kind of bullshit levelheaded clarity of mind is a failing on yr part, not some triumph of reason.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/ankielflup.jpg

I used to be a highly-touted prospect too :(

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What I'm trying to say is: predicting which pitchers are going to become superstars as opposed to flaming out before age 30 is basically a suckers game.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

xxpost:

Hey tiger, all i've said is "wait and see".

I mean I read way too much about Jeff Francis a few years ago and just today he gets roughed up for 9 runs in 3 innings (sure, in Colorado... but 9 runs on only 3 XBHs, none of which left the yard).

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like thinking about advanced metrics but am terrible at writing about them, just for the record.

Cindy Operahouse (WilliamC), Friday, 15 August 2014 19:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Another thing that seems self-evident to me is that if there is a benefit to having strong 7+/2- starters, it's going to show up in the long relief and setup guys. When Superstarter goes 7+, the closer is at least as likely, if not more likely, to make an appearance, so he's not getting any of that rest.

Cindy Operahouse (WilliamC), Friday, 15 August 2014 19:10 (four years ago) Permalink

True--the benefit, if it exists, would seem to go to your middle relievers.

I like something like this because it doesn't require advanced metrics at all. You just have to design the comparison in a way that makes sense, then you're working with basic measures like ERA or WHIP. WAR and Win Probability and such--the actual calculation of them--is way beyond what I can do. (Although I get the feeling WP is not difficult to calculate, just time-consuming.)

clemenza, Friday, 15 August 2014 19:16 (four years ago) Permalink

Watching the baseball game with my dad tonight, I had to teach him what a shortstop was. He knows absolutely nothing about baseball. He asked me what would be considered a good pitching performance and I told him that 7 innings with less than 2 runs is, rule of thumb, a pretty good pitching performance.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 16 August 2014 04:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Cool story VHS.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 16 August 2014 04:25 (four years ago) Permalink

I told him that 7 innings with less than 2 runs is, rule of thumb, a pretty good pitching performance.

Make sure to tell him you know a place where people take days debating the validity of such statements. (True of baseball fans in general.)

clemenza, Saturday, 16 August 2014 13:19 (four years ago) Permalink

and it ends.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 17 August 2014 01:11 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i knew Kluber was having a good season – but had no idea it was *that* good. where the hell did this season come from anyways?! his minor league numbers gave no real hint he was this type of pitcher.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:33 (four years ago) Permalink

Sorry, fellow Jays fans; tonight I root for Felix.

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:25 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm rooting for a 1-0 10th inning J's victory.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:36 (four years ago) Permalink

oh. just turned on the game - J's already scored.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Chris Mosch, BP:

The rare implosion by Hernandez resulted in not only the most runs he had allowed in a single inning this season, but also the most he had surrendered in a single game all year. The eight total earned runs Hernandez gave up tied a career worst for the right-hander and his ERA jumped from a league-leading 2.07 to 2.34.

Not only did Hernandez’s worst outing of the season drop the Mariners three games behind the Royals for a wild card slot with just five remaining, it also loosened his grasp on the Cy Young Award race, which he appeared to have all but wrapped up a month ago. After last night’s start, Corey Kluber holds a 2.39-to-2.60 FIP advantage while pitching just three fewer innings. Last night’s blowup by Hernandez also narrowed the gap in ERA between the two, despite Hernandez pitching in front of a much better defense and to a superior receiver behind the dish. Cleveland’s ace will have a final chance to sway the voters Saturday night against the Rays.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:27 (four years ago) Permalink

If I were voting for any award that came down to two closely matched players, and one of them was having a potentially fluke year and the other had a well established level of excellence, I'd always vote for the established player. But at this point, Kluber has probably pulled away enough that I'd feel okay voting for him.

clemenza, Saturday, 27 September 2014 18:37 (four years ago) Permalink

klubes has more fWAR than kershaw (by 0.1)

hughes and lester have more than felix

what a disappointing second half

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 27 September 2014 20:53 (four years ago) Permalink

ERA *really* sucks as an "authoritative" stat.

Hernandez has a chance to take the AL ERA title Sunday. A scoring decision Saturday charged Hernandez with an error in Tuesday's 10-2 loss at Toronto, a play originally called a hit. The change removed four earned runs from Hernandez's record, dropping his ERA from 2.34 to 2.18 going into his final start of the regular season. Chris Sale of the Chicago White Sox, who made his final scheduled start Wednesday, leads the AL at 2.17.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 September 2014 15:31 (four years ago) Permalink

Watch him throw a no hitter today!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:16 (four years ago) Permalink

It has its limitations, like any stat. Here, I think for the opposite reason of what I'm guessing is behind your post (that it's not right that an seemingly arbitrary ERA title may get Felix the Cy Young): how that one lousy start obscured Felix's great run earlier in the year, and after being thought of as the best pitcher in the league for most of the season, his ERA crosses paths with Kluber's and now he's no longer the favourite. (I.e., if he was the best pitcher before that one start, isn't he still the best pitcher after it? It's one start.)

clemenza, Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:23 (four years ago) Permalink

i really dont give a shit about the Cy Young

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:26 (four years ago) Permalink

"like any stat"

you really just... nm

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:26 (four years ago) Permalink

You're always saying you don't care about stuff you clearly care about, else you wouldn't post so often about them--awards and the HOF at the top of the list.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:30 (four years ago) Permalink

And here I thought you guys would be complaining about the "narrative" events of the past week and how they will impact the voting:

-- Felix the clear CY winner, with Kluber right behind him
-- Felix blows up against Toronto, Seattle tanks their playoff chances, Kluber dominates in his final start and is looking like the frontrunner for the award
-- Oakland continues sucking, game 162 somehow ends up mattering for Seattle, Felix gets a shot at redemption for his team and a chance to upstage Kluber again

So Felix went from pariah who choked away the CY, to ace pitcher making the most important start of his career, all in less than a week.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:01 (four years ago) Permalink

He was removed from the game as soon as the A's won.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 28 September 2014 22:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Aahhh - that's what happened.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 28 September 2014 22:54 (four years ago) Permalink

Close to a coin flip--for every point you make on one side, there's one on the other. I looked at the game logs and totaled quality starts using the same definition as Felix's streak: 7+ innings, 2 or fewer runs (earned or otherwise).

Kluber: 19/34
Felix: 22/34

Kluber wins on WAR and FIP, Felix on ERA and WHIP. Innings, they're separated by one out, K/BB and run support are also almost even. Kluber had the better September, for sure (after a poor start to start the month), and seeing as both teams were chasing a wild-card spot, I do think that matters. I'd probably vote for Felix for the reason I gave earlier: all things being close to equal, I'd rather vote for the established great player.

clemenza, Monday, 29 September 2014 12:59 (four years ago) Permalink

Runs allowed depend on too many factors, so I like to look at Game Scores to get an idea of a pitcher's dominance.

Turns out that's more or less a wash too -- Kluber has more dominant starts (GSc > 80) but also more bad ones (GSc < 50), whereas Felix was more consistently good.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 September 2014 13:50 (four years ago) Permalink

is this Cy Young going to com down to fielding? because that would be awesome!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 29 September 2014 14:41 (four years ago) Permalink

three words for you: arm wrestling contest

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 September 2014 14:51 (four years ago) Permalink

many cy youngs have come down to fielding bcz era is a team stat

which is why i vote for kluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubezzzzzzzzzzzzz

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 29 September 2014 16:24 (four years ago) Permalink

i would vote both Cys by FIP this year since Hamels is not in the NL top 5

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 16:33 (four years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

4th youngest to 2000 K.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Feller, Seaver, and Clemens the others? (Or maybe Blyleven.)

clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:24 (four years ago) Permalink

Only one of the four correct.

clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:25 (four years ago) Permalink

tied with orel for 70th all-time

at 29

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 May 2015 01:16 (three years ago) Permalink

Ryan surely

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 May 2015 01:31 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

wow

Houston - Bottom of 1st	SCORE
Felix Hernandez pitching for Seattle SEA HOU
Jose Altuve Strike (foul), Strike (foul), Altuve reached on infield single to shortstop 0 0
Preston Tucker Ball, Ball, Ball, Ball, Tucker walked, Altuve to second 0 0
George Springer Ball, Ball, Springer doubled to right, Altuve scored, Tucker to third 0 1
Evan Gattis Gattis grounded into fielder's choice to pitcher, Tucker and Springer scored, Gattis safe at second on throwing error by pitcher Hernández 0 3
Colby Rasmus Ball, Ball, Strike (looking), Strike (foul), Ball, Ball, Rasmus walked 0 3
Carlos Correa Strike (looking), Strike (swinging), Ball, Foul, Ball, Strike (looking), Correa struck out looking 0 3
Luis Valbuena Strike (swinging), Valbuena homered to right center, Gattis and Rasmus scored 0 6
Chris Carter Strike (looking), Strike (looking), Carter singled to left 0 6
Jason Castro Ball, Strike (foul), Castro homered to left, Carter scored 0 8
Jose Altuve Beimel relieved Hernández, Strike (looking), Altuve grounded out to shortstop 0 8
Preston Tucker Ball, Strike (foul), Ball, Tucker singled to center 0 8
George Springer Strike (swinging), Strike (swinging), Strike (swinging), Springer struck out swinging 0 8

johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:34 (three years ago) Permalink

The hell happened.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 13 June 2015 03:49 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

His bad stretch this year guaranteed it wouldn't be one of his better seasons, but he was great last night, and he'll end up with one of those filling-in-the-scenery type years that adds to his bulk numbers and strengthens his HOF résumé. Also making progress towards 300 wins, which, if it ever happens, will make him the latest guy to win 300 after it was obvious there's never be another 300-game winner again.

clemenza, Friday, 11 September 2015 12:59 (three years ago) Permalink

I was surprised to see that he has 17 wins -- the second highest total of his career -- and has a good chance to win 20 for the first time. I wonder if anyone will write that Felix finally learned how to win (for a mediocre Seattle team that won't come close to making the playoffs) rather than only caring about his personal stats.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 11 September 2015 23:28 (three years ago) Permalink

highly doubt felix will approach 300

felix is an interesting case. on one hand, he's been a poster child for the sabermetric movement almost since he broke into the league. on the other hand, a lot of his value comes from the old fashioned sense of being so durable and an innings-eater; his per-inning numbers are not really that special

usic ally (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:38 (three years ago) Permalink

For the HOF, I imagine Felix will be fine with 225-250 wins. By the time he comes up for induction (2030 or so), pitcher wins will be a quaint relic.

I think he has a decent chance, though. He'll have 143-145 at the end of his age-29 season:

Clemens -- 152
Maddux -- 150
Seaver -- 146
Sutton -- 139
Carlton - 133
Glavine -- 124
Ryan -- 122

(No point in even listing Johnson, who didn't have his first really good season until he was 29.) I know that covers different eras, and that at least a couple of those guys go back to 4-man rotations. But he's in line with Maddux and Glavine, and much closer to the former than the latter. If he can bounce back to last year's form, he has a shot; if this year is the beginning of slow decline, no.

clemenza, Saturday, 12 September 2015 13:14 (three years ago) Permalink

Or let's say bounce back halfway; last year was good enough to be something of a blip.

clemenza, Saturday, 12 September 2015 13:22 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Felix is going to the bullpen. Servais informed him before the game.

— Ryan Divish (@RyanDivish) August 10, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 10 August 2018 05:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

I had no idea he'd been declining so badly

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/exile-for-king-felix/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 August 2018 14:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

at least he got that funny strikeout of beltre the other day (before beltre went deep on him) : /

mookieproof, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

figured this day was coming but it sucks that it happens the one year the Mariners are actually kinda good

this sorta happened to Verlander too but he bounced back, maybe there's hope for the ol' King. he's only 32!

frogbs, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

Gets a spot start tonight because Paxton is on the DL

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

Should have been traded at the end of the 2016 season. He’s been worthless this last couple years.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:02 (nine months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

felix hernandez, 2016-2019

434 IP, 77 GS
26-31, 4.79 ERA, 4.96 FIP, 4.43 xFIP, 1.36 WHIP
7.44 K/9 (19.1 K%), 3.27 BB/9 (8.4 BB%)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Sunday, 12 May 2019 15:16 (one week ago) Permalink

so what you're saying is that he'd be the no. 1 starter for the 2019 orioles

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 May 2019 18:56 (one week ago) Permalink


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