The guy played hard and was consistent in a way that few players have ever been. That said, a HUGE chunk of all of those hits are singles.Rose deserves some props for being a solid enough player to play so many positions in the field with proficiency.
Hall of Fame and reinstatement?
Pete bet on baseball, I have little doubt about that one. Rose has to come clean on this issue and I think allowing him to be elected into the hall of fame should be reinstated and he should be allowed at baseball functions, but never be allowed to manage again. Pete should be allowed to coach in spring training, as the guy is an encyclopedia of baseball.
I would BET that the Reds would hire him again as manager, if allowed, especially considering the team is in complete shambles.
What do you think?
― earlnash, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link
― calstars (calstars), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 05:52 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 06:39 (twenty years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link
― earlnash, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee Majors (Leee), Thursday, 27 November 2003 03:32 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 December 2003 05:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
That Phillie team was good, but come on in comparison to "THE BIG RED MACHINE"?
Some Philly fans booed Mike Schmidt on Mike Schmidt Day.
― earlnash, Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
If this happens, look for the Reds to try and re-hire him as manager around the Allstar break.
― earlnash, Friday, 2 January 2004 04:11 (twenty years ago) link
So flimsy. Now, he's saying he didn't make bets from his manager's office, but his bemulleted gambling pals and bookies say he did. He's a very bad liar. The replays of his denials were a damning indictment. He should be in the Hall, however. With a great big asterisk somewhere close by.
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:24 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:25 (twenty years ago) link
― metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee Smith (Leee), Friday, 9 January 2004 03:04 (twenty years ago) link
He's screwed and will not get into the hall of fame (at least for a good long time, if ever) or be reinstated.
It is his own fault, so it goes.
― earlnash, Monday, 12 January 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago) link
"I just think it's hogwash to say that he should be put back into the game just because the public wants it," Aaron said. "A rule is a rule, and the rule is on every clubhouse door that you can't bet on baseball. It doesn't say that you're excluded if you have 4,000 hits or 700 home runs."
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1710186
― earlnash, Friday, 16 January 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago) link
http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__4/ept_sports_mlb_experts-117410000-1210266838.jpg?ymXjMW_CtAi1IpRu
― mookieproof, Friday, 9 May 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
hated him b4 it was fashionable
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 9 May 2008 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link
http://spin.com/sites/spin.com/files/imagecache/huge_page_view/sites/spin.com/files/100428-pollard-rose.jpg
― Antoine Joubert Singers (Andy K), Friday, 30 April 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Hank Aaron otm
kinda surprising to me that ilx didn't have a big argument about this q with a lot of neo-nihilist types advocating the "who cares what he did, it's the scoreboard that counts" position
― brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 30 April 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
he should not get in because he looks like the biggest douche alive in that pic.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 30 April 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
B.Pollard belongin on the men who look like old lesbians thread.
― wmlynch, Friday, 30 April 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://blog.rifftrax.com/wp-content/photos/LadyElaine.jpg
― Zimbabwe Lefsetz (Andy K), Friday, 30 April 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
If I'm a "neo-nihilist," anyone with a sense of baseball history knows gambling is the mortal sin, explicitly proscribed. PEDs are a fog by comparison.
Also Rose wasn't nearly the player Joe Morgan was.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 May 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
also check Bob Pollard's sell-by date
Gambling was the mortal sin in baseball -- in 1920. I'm not defending betting on baseball, but gambling is no longer an "existential threat" (if you want to call it that) to the game, and hasn't been for decades. Everyone who uses the "but it's posted on every clubhouse wall" defense is paying lip service to outdated rules that nobody got around to updating. The punishment doesn't fit the crime anymore.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 1 May 2010 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link
CHALLOPS
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 May 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAqG4mnkSqw
― controll-s (velko), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Leave him banned.
― Nom Nom Nom Chomsky (WmC), Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/06/x-ray_rose_bathor.jpg
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
waht
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
this:
http://deadspin.com/5555714/this-is-pete-roses-corked-bat
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Ken Burns on Pete Rose. "Vote him in after he's dead. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, but he doesn't deserve to know he's in."
Sort of agree with this.
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Pete the Perpetual Pitchman!
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=19501
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Vns4l-2j--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/vf8kdwctykaxiwyy6lxz.jpg
― nomar, Thursday, 16 June 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link
Dammit nomar now we have to tag this thread NSFW.
― Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Thursday, 16 June 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link
Philthies (mostly) do the right thing
https://www.thegoodphight.com/2017/8/2/16084848/phillies-boot-pete-rose-from-wall-of-fame
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link