What ballplayers have you met in your lifetime?

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Taken from the other thread. Bucky Dent and Ron Darling were clients of my fathers years ago. I went deep sea fishing with Bucky. And met Ron came to my house a few times. I've also met a few Yankees during last years playoffs at the Ritz in Boston. Here I am with the Giambino. Jeremy that is.

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Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

im also a fat pig.

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Copied from the other thread:

I met a bunch at a baseball camp in Houston the summer after my 8th grade year ('88). Glenn Davis, Bill Doran, Billy Hatcher and Kevin Bass all came out and spoke to the campers or signed autographs or both. The Reds were in town, so one of the days Jeff Treadway and Paul O'Neil showed up. O'Neil came to our field and hung out in the dugout with us for a while. Really nice guy. Also, former ML player/coach Dennis Menke ran some 3rd base drill for a group of about 4 of us.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Jim Bouton was an asshole, wouldn't sign an autograph for little nine-year-old me when he managed the Portland Mavericks. Fucker.

This guy is the only MLB player from my hometown, his house was about 50 yards from mine, just across Birch Street. His dad had built a pitcher's mound in the yard, we used to go watch him throw off it all the time. If memory serves correctly, he threw at a hitter in his very first game with the Phillies and got ejected after the fight. Apparently, he was/is a racist asshole. He was one of the five dudes traded for Von Hayes, and also played with Ichiro on the Orix Blue Waves.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

huh, according to baseball-reference.com there have been 3 major leaguers born in my hometown and they were all pitchers.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

We used to go down to Sarasota to watch the White Sox in spring training. I think I 'met' most of the players from the late 70s-early 80s teams, but I only remember Harold Baines and Minnie Minoso.

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I've met current White Sox players Carlos Lee (twice) and Damaso Marte. I've also, uh, been in the same room as Frank Thomas and Jose Valentin. The Big Hurt was at a club I was at once; it was the year he had the torn tricep - 2002 I think? He had a big brace on his arm and was just holding court in the VIP section. I didn't talk to him. Valentin I saw at my local Jewel. It was actually around midnight or so on the night of a game at Comiskey I attended. He must have come to the store straight from the ballpark, but he had his wife and his two little niƱos with him, so I didn't want to bother him.

The first time I met Lee it was also after a game, which I had attended. I went with some friends to get a late dinner in Pilsen at Nuevo Leon. Here's the kicker: I was actually wearing a Carlos Lee jersey, purchased just that week, for the first time! We hadn't even noticed him as we entered (I sat with my back to where he was sitting with his family), but my friends soon took note of the pointing and talking coming from where he was sitting. It was kind of embarassing, but at that point I HAD to get him to autograph the darn thing. He was really cool about it. This was like his third year with the club - 2001 I think? He probably hadn't seen too many people wearing his jersey at that point. Oh, the next time I saw him was at some crappy gold coast dance club.

When I met Marte he was just sitting outside of Comiskey an hour or so after a game, in that grassy knoll by the ticket windows. He had just been traded from Pittsburgh, probably figured he wouldn't be noticed, but I recognized him right away. I walked over and introduced myself. He said he was "waiting for a friend to come pick him up." Funny stuff.

I was about to say I've never seen any Cubs around but then I remembered that once a friend and I walked into Smith & Wollensky just ahead of Kerry Wood and his party. Man, he is tall! He seemed a lot taller in person than he does on TV.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i once met eddie murray at dodgers training camp. he wasn't really excited about signing an autograph for me, but he didn't anyways.

i met bill ripken when he first came up for the o's and was having a really good season. he was wearing all white (pants, shirt, loafers) and looked and behaved as if he had been on a bender the night before. good times.

j.q. higgins, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I've met Bobby Valentine, Ralph Branca, Vernon Wells, Ben Grieve, Jose Canseco, Pudge (an as assload of Rangers in various ways).

Not quite 'met' but I got Roberto Alomar to sign a baseball the night he was the last out for Nolan Ryan's seventh no-hitter.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

milo, are you in Big D?

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha - Valentin at the Jewel!

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm a mile, maybe a little less from the Arlington's Gift To George Bush (aka the Ballpark).

The upside of the Rangers being so awful is that Hicks hasn't been able to sell naming rights, the bastard.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i once was a temp at the united way in sf. one day i was taking the elevator up to the office and barry bonds and his mom ended up getting on. it was just me, barry, and mrs. b. i said, "hello". he/she said nothing. it was great!

metfigga (metfigga), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't really talked to any mlb'ers. I'm sure I babbled on last year's ILB threads about standing in front of McGwire at Starbucks. He was on his cell phone talking about his bum knees to someone. I pretty much turned around to him and did the cartoonish 'eyes popping out of head' routine and he gave me the "please, leave me be" look. And I went to grade school with a lot of Cardinal kids/relatives: Smith, Brock, Sutter, Clark. I remember Ozzie's kid doing flips on the playground. And Ted Simmons was a client at a finanical place I worked, but he never talked to me.

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I forgot - I waited on Jorge Posada and his agent when they came to town. He left me $20 on a $20 tab, even after the expo screwed up his order. Jorge is good people.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The only pro player I have ever met was Richie Lewis, but that is because he went to the same high school, but he was three years older. He was a badass in college at Florida State and may have won a college World Series.

The guy hurt his arm his last year in college and lost a bit on his fastball, but he was still good enough to make it to the pros for a few years as a reliever. Before he hurt his arm, Lewis threw about as hard as any pitcher you are going to see that was under 6 foot tall. He had like mid to high 90s heat at one point at FSU. Lewis' dad was the baseball coach and he cut me sophmore year.

earlnash, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)

crap, i also met steve lyons at logan a few years back. he was flying to nyc to cover the yankees series after they'd eliminated the sox. he got out of the cab in front of ours and was going to the same terminal as me and my buddy chris. chris engaged him in conversation about the sox, i tried my best to ignore him. then he sat at the table next to ours in the food court and scarfed down some greasy mickey d's food.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Gary Carter, in '86 or '87. Nice guy, played little league with a friend of my dad's.

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

When I was five and a half my parents took me to a Pirate spring training game in Bradenton, FL. I got my program signed by Omar Moreno, Dave Parker, John Candelaria, etc., but the only thing I can still remember from it was meeting Willie Stargell. He signed my program and said, "Now what do you say?" I just gaped at him and after a couple moments said, "Thank you?" He patted me on the head and gave me my program back. Later I made a vow to myself that if I got married, I would invite him to the wedding; sadly, I am still single and he is dead.

Mickey Morandini (1990's Phillies/Cubs 2B, unassisted triple play) was a friend of my Legion team's coach and worked out with us before a big league tryout. Nice guy, too bad about the mullet. I was playing first and he had the best arm of anyone I'd ever caught--my hand got swollen. Of course the Phillies moved him from short to second because he didn't have the arm for it.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 23 April 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
I met Clemens when he was still with Boston, in the spring of either 93 or 94. I lived in Fort Myers, FL where the Sox have their spring training facility and rung Clemens up at the register in the Avia factory store I worked at. He bought a buch of women's bathing suits, small bottoms and large tops. He was really standoffish and seemed irritated I was asking him questions. It was a pretty uncomfortable situation really, but I got him to autograph a hat and gave it to a Sox fan I know.

Then a few years ago in Boston, either 99 or 2000, I met three Yanks with the guy I gave the Clemens autograph to. Bernie Williams I didn't really meet I guess, I walked in front of his car as we were leaving the game. I gave him a quick chant (Ber-nie Will-iams CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP) and two thumbs up.

Later that night we were out at a bar in downtown Boston and I was fucking TRASHED. Dave Cone and Shane Spencer walked into the bar right past me and I didn't even notice- my buddy, a Sox fan, punched me in the arm and pointed them out and asked me if I'm blind. I don't think anyone really noticed them. I stumbled up to the bar, red faced and sweaty, burping, slurring words, spit flying from my lips, and gushed to Cone about how awesome it was watching his perfect game, asking what it was like, was he nervous, did it mean alot to him... and we were just asking Spencer what it was like to play on that 98 team and win every goddamn day. We had a drink with them and left because there were all these other people crowding around after about 15 minutes.

Shaun (shaun), Thursday, 10 June 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

The upside of the Rangers being so awful is that Hicks hasn't been able to sell naming rights, the bastard.

Fucking jinxed it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

SUPPOSEDLY roger clemens got a minor hunting ticket a few years ago just outside a big hunting town a couple counties away from here (schools around here have one day a year during "deer season" where any student can be absent w/ permission, and i'm sure at that town's school NOBODY shows, half the cheerleading team is hunting any given year [true]. that's PIKE COUNTY IL and i'm sure it's a horrible place. pretty area though.). anyway, he got this ticket and the guy who gave it to him DID NOT EVEN RECOGNIZE HIM. this is immediately after the yankees won the 2000 world series and clemens had just been getting nat'l news coverage what w/ that whole piazza thing. how could you not know who roger clemens is, for god's sake?

i still wonder if this was just some mistaken identity thing someone decided to run with but it passes for a cool story around here.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

milo, you going out to the Ballpark for the "Two Games for the Price of One" Promotion tonight?

boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I'm still boycotting Hicks. I think I can hold out for a couple more months.

I missed the Ft. Worth Cats Duke Snider bobblehead night. I wish I could have seen all the little kids going "who the hell is Duke Snider?!"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 11 June 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I did make it out. Upper deck seats were $2. Got there in the 8th inning of the first game, and come-from-behing 9-7 victory for the Rangers, who scored those 9 runs on only 5 hits. Game 2 was a blowout, 10-4 Rangers with Teixiera absolutely crushing a 3-run bomb and Fullmer going salami two innings later.

Speaking of tubular meat products, between games I decided I needed a hot dog. I go and plop down my $7.50 for a dog and bottled water. Return to my seat and on the first bite, the bun was so dry that I choked on it and in the ensuing fit of coughing, my body convulsed so violently that I...dropped...the hot dog. :-(

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 11 June 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I usually stick to the chicken fingers and pizza. (Pizza's a joke - like $3.50-4 a slice)

I'll probably give up the boycott whenever I get LASIK surgery or cave in on new glasses. I was planning to do a portfolio of ballpark photographs, but I haven't been able to use any of my cameras.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 11 June 2004 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

You shouldn't deprive yourself of the excitement this Rangers team is playing with right now. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Astros and NL fan, but I'm really enjoying following the Rangers right now.

And that Michael Young is darn good. He got my All-Star Vote last night. Anybody care to argue that one with me? Among AL shortstops, he ranks 1st in BA, 2nd in OPS, 2nd in SB, tied for 2nd in RBI and tied for 1st in HR.

One legitimate reason to boycott Tom Hicks: you can't buy just a scorecard at The Ballpark Ameriquest Field. You have to spend $5 on a program to get a scorecard.

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that program / scorecard scam has become de rigueur in all ballparks now. Just snag a scorebook from some retail outlet & go gonzo.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought a scorecard at Wrigley last year and I know that in the past you were able to buy a scorecard at Astros games. I assume that's still true, but I've only been to one game in Houston this year and I didn't try to buy a scorecard.

A scorebook won't have up-to-date roster information.

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

That's what a pencil's for.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

So a pencil will know the names and numbers of every player on each team?

Yeah, I know they will announce the line-ups, pinch-hitters, relief pitchers, etc., but it's still helpful to have a printed roster in case you miss an announcement and don't know the name of the reserve outfielder just called up from AAA who has been inserted as a defensive replacement in the bottom of the eighth. If I'm gonna score a game, I'm not gonna half-ass it. I can't help it, I'm borderline OCD.

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

That's what beer is for. ;)

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't argue with that.

boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 11 June 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

mmk, so why is tbia "mini-coors" and not just, like "coors II"? all the rangers stars always seem to have HUGE splits, equal to any coors field split but w/ no rocky road effect to blame it on.

OPSes

young: 1.045/.738
soriano .883/.649
blalock .999/.800
teixeira .916/.761

nix is the only ranger-hitter-whose-name-i-know-without-looking-at-their-roster without a 20%+ difference.

ok, so obviously those guys are all for-real, but when they've got splits like that (and have had every year in the case of young, blalock, and teixeira) i can't help holding it against them.

John (jdahlem), Friday, 11 June 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that program / scorecard scam has become de rigueur in all ballparks now. Just snag a scorebook from some retail outlet & go gonzo.

unofficial scorecards ARE FOR SCABS! Seriously, the guys selling fake scorecards outside Wrigley (and other ballparks) sell inferior product (with hardly info) and are able to undercut ballpark prices BECAUSE THEY'RE NON-UNION. Dave R., you are REAGAN to me now.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Well...

Jellybean?

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 June 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I was suggesting getting a SCOREBOOK, BTW, so you could keep track of all games you attend in one location. I have never noticed if they sold those inferior scorekeeping products outside of stadia I've been to. I would personally rather have a scorebook than a chintzy program with a bunch of glossy home-team propaganda included. I used to keep score for my dad's community college baseball team. It was fun.

I'll only be Reagan if you'll be Tip O'Neill.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 June 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

TIP ruled, dude.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope you don't think I thought otherwise.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 June 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not like I'd want you to be Al Haig. Unless you wanted to be in charge, of course.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 June 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

is he in charge now?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 11 June 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

He was always in charge, baby!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 June 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

equal to any coors field split but w/ no rocky road effect to blame it on.
heat, but with less humidity than Houston, minimal wind effect, pitchers tire faster, etc.

Nothing about it in my copy of the STATS stadium book. I was surprised to see that the BIA has average or maybe slightly larger-than-average fair territory.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 11 June 2004 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

but as far as i know the pitches still have typical movement, unlike at coors, so it's not as if rangers hitters are acclimating themselves to weak pitches during long homestands, and then hitting poorly against the real thing when they go on road trips. but i'm sure that soriano, blalock, young and teixeira are not .600 - .700 OPS hitters in a neutral field, even though that's what their splits from the last couple years would have you believe.

does your book list park factors? i'd be interested in knowing where arlington ranks. should be second, i would think.

John (jdahlem), Friday, 11 June 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

My book only goes up to '98 - but going up to 2000 here -
http://www.baseball-statistics.com/Ballparks/Tex/#factor

High on home-runs and triples, low on doubles, better for lefties than righties (but this was a different crop of players - Will Clark, Pudge, Palmeiro, Gonzalez over the years).

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 11 June 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never met a ballplayer in any capacity except at the ballpark or at an autograph "session," and even those have been almost non-existent.

Guys whose autographs I've gotten: J.R. Richards (pre-stroke), Billy Williams, Bucky Dent, Rich Gossage, Glenn Beckert (at a bank in Deerfield, IL), Bart Johnson, and other White Sox guys circa 1975-77.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Sunday, 13 June 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Keith Hernandez is kind of a dick.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 13 June 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I got autographs at the Sox camp in Winter Haven in 1986: Clemens, Buckner, Gedman, some others.

I also got Jesse Barfield's autograph a couple of times, when he played for the Knoxville Blue Jays.

My strategy for minor league autographs was easy, just wait outside the clubhouse and they'd all come right out. Most of them wouldn't take the time on the way to the bus, but some of them did.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"Keith Hernandez is kind of a dick."

He didn't want to go to 2nd base with you, did he?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

no, I wouldn't let him kiss me in his car. It wasn't that. He didn't sign to my roommate Ben like I asked (which would've made his autograph less valuable, his loss I guess).

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

TIP ruled, dude.

i wish to god i had access to my parents photographs right now so i could whip out the picture of 8 year old me grinning like a functionally retarded child along side a macy's thanksgiving day parade-sized tip o'neill.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to date a girl who had a great photo of herself, circa 8, with classmates eating ice cream with Tip O'Neil in his D.C. office.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

what a fuckin fat tird i am up there. i've lost 25 pounds since. cripes.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

take a picture of your new self with johnny damon then.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

don't get me started on political snap shots. i've got a bunch from when i used to visit my aunt at mcgovern's senate office.

j.q. higgins, Saturday, 19 June 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

My parents have a photo of 8-year old me standing in between Phil Rizzuto and Morganna the Kissing Bandit, who were signing autographs at the same show.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 19 June 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Just bumped into White Sox pitcher Jon Garland at the nearby Jewel/Osco -- the same place I had that encounter with Jose Valentin mentioned above. I've known that Garland has lived around here for a couple years, supposedly just a block or two away from this grocery store, so I always figured I would bump into him there eventually. Didn't say anything to him. He was with a girlfriend (wife? I have no idea), and oddly, was walking along with a kind of limp. As far as I know he's not injured. He's not as tall as I'd imagined.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

he's listed at 6'6!!

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

haha- yeah, I know. I guess I just .. I think his lanky frame -- as viewed on TV -- had always given me the impression that he was this super tall dude that would just tower over you in person.

It's kind of the opposite effect I had with Kerry Wood the one time I saw him up close; I was shocked at how tall he seemed. I guess in his case, his stockier frame had given me a false impression of just how tall he was.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Was the gf Lov1eanne Jung of the USA softball team?

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, wood is 6'5. i had no idea either. though i guess that's pretty much a given for a pitcher these days, which is probably part of the reason for that.

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

My mom's first husband's daughter (by his 2nd wife) married Jim Morrison, infielder with the Phillies, White Sox, Pirates, Tigers (briefly), Braves (v. briefly) between 77-88. I met him once and got a ball signed by the 1980 Sox.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
Not me and not a ballplayer, but my sister met Rachel Robinson, Jackie's widow, the other day. She's about 84 and looks 60, sis sez.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Tino Martinez in Tower Records this spring!!!! It was awesome. He was with girlfriend/wife and I excitedly whispered to one of the cashiers that it was him. They were like "who"?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

The only autograph I've ever asked for was from Ozzie Smith.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Morganna the kissing bandit ... now there's someone I can say I met! She was a sweetheart too, very chatty.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Morganna signs her M with nipples.

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

That must be some grip.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm sure I've mentioned this before but its always worth repeating)

Bruce Sutter's kid used to say a lot of anti-semitic crap on our school bus until my brother punched him in the face.

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I made a point to go see Ken Griffey Jr's first pro game (rookie ball, Northwest League) and get his autograph. I guess that's the last aurograph I asked for. He seemed bigger than life even then, that smile, etc.

jergins (jergins), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

When I was 5, my elementary school claimed that some members of the Padres were coming to speak to us and I was PISSED when it turned out to be Bruce Bochy and like Luis Deleon or some such scrub.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

I have sold multiple Boney James records to Joe Morgan.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)


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