Barry Bonds is the DEVIL!!!

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He hit #666 last night.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, I'm predicting that his final total for this season will be 110.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

The homer of the beast.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Bonds should have been allowed to run the bases backwards for this one.

earlnash, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

He's only on pace for 100, though, isn't he?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

8 / 13 * 162 = 99.69

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

It's the Australian sign of the beast!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

8 / 13 * 162 = 99.69

But wasn't there a game where he only pinch hit? If you take that game out, then you get 107.9999998

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, but he will be taking similar days off like that for the rest of the season. i stand by my original estimate.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, you're just a Barry Hatah.

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

See, I told you he's the Devil. He's levitating!

boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

He played for the Sun Devils!

You know, at first I thought this thread was a joke but it's becoming harder and harder to ignore all the evidence that's piling up.

mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

taking his initials "BB" brings you phonetically into the same ballpark as Beezlebub.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

i think his cross earing was inverted last night.

metfigga (metfigga), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Devil no more! This is getting anti-climactic.

Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link

he's hitting .514!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:24 (eighteen years ago) link

He saw one strike yesterday in 4 plate appearances (15 pitches). Guess where it went?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Rob Neyer floats the idea of Barry hitting leadoff. His chances of going 6-for-6 with 6 HRs are greatly increased if he's batting leadoff.

mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Bonds is on pace for 243 walks this season.

30 / 20 x 162 = 243

He's currently 90 behind Rickey Henderson (tentatively retired). This projects Bonds ending with 2,313 at season-end. The next closest active player is nearly one thousand walks behind: Frank Thomas at 1,386.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
i just wanted to circle back 6 weeks later to Bonds' projected BB total in 2004 = 228 BBs (vs. 30 projected Ks and 46 projected HRs).


gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Bonds has already received 50 intentional walks this season, just 18 off the major league record he set in 2002, when he led San Francisco to the World Series.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link


hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I told you my friend ran into BB at a tacqueria in the South Bay and he said BB was one of the nicest, friendliest guys he's ever approached in a random situation. I doubt any soy bombs were involved though.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

your fanboydom has reached new heights if you're trying to say Barry don't drop a pooter every now and again.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it's golden h, 14K.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...

So far this season, Bonds has more intentional walks than any team compiled in one season, in the history of baseball.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

has anyone else on the giants been intentionally walked this year? I think I remember deivi getting an IBB t'other night, but that's just, y'know, one. statgax?

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

the giants have 107 this year total. barry has 87 of them. i have no idea what this means.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

read Moneyball by Billy Beane, it will tell you all about the wonders of the base on balls.

l. ron gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link

g!, give someone some credit for having half a brain for once. I know it's good to get on base blah blah blah. what I was talking about was the percentage of giants' IBBs all going to one person, etc. although I guess in retrospect I didn't articulate that enough.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link

yes he's a fearsome hitter and all, but does it really ultimately put the giants at a huge advantage in this year to have such an easy target to put on 1B? over time, sure, fine. but this year, it seems to have been a really effective hack-a-shaq. I hate it, personally, but I guess it works to the Giants' detriment, no?

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry, i was channelling joe morgan there in (yet another) failed attempt at humor. so anyways, back to the stats:

i touched on this earlier in the season but i will return to it again.
SFO is #10 in MLB in BA, yet they are #3 in OBP. There was a study done by a statistician that claims that walking Bonds put the opponent at a statistical disadvantage.

The BA:OBP gap is undoubtedly attributed to the [projected] 231 walks awarded to Bonds this year. Whether MVP voters will realize what the value of walking one player 231 times in a season (or just little one-offs like Jose Mesa IBB-ing Bonds to open up the 10th Inning of a game last week for example) is one thing, that .600 OBP curiosity just hanging out there with noone entirely sure what to make of it.

People say when talking about Babe Ruth, he was so great... he hit more home runs than entire teams did. Bonds alone gets put on first base in 4 pitches more than any other team in history. And while that obviously shuts the door on any hope of a machisimo era for the sport, I think it more bleakly exposes the corporatization (ie, accountability, conservatisim) of baseball. and that ain't no fun!

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Barry's scored 90-something runs this year, second in the NL I think, despite having no power hitters behind him to drive him home. He's been getting on base that much.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

2 more HR tonight, the hell-demon

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

just truly incredible, no matter how you slice it

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link

During MVP talk, people mention that Rolen has (as of yesterday) 104 RBIs and Barry only has 72.

Compare the two in the following situations:

With Runners On:
Bonds - .376 BA, .690 OBP, .798 SLG, 1.488 OPS
Rolen - .344 BA, .421 OBP, .656 OBP, 1.077 OPS

With Runners In Scoring Position:
Bonds - .393 BA, .752 OBP, .875 SLG, 1.627 OPS
Rolen - .392 BA, .466 OBP, .817 SLG, 1.283 OPS

So who really is more valuable with runners on base, which is the only offensive category where Bonds trails Rolen?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

bonds has driven himself in about a third of the time.

ibb's aren't at all equivalent to "earned" walks as a rule, but bonds is walked so much that he probably makes up a lot of the gap.

barry has scored 25.6% of the time he's been on base. that's low, but probably pretty high for a guy who bats 4th in a weak lineup (what are the giants collective #5's 6 and 7 slots hitting?and is put on so often at the opponents' discretion. adam dunn is at 27%, to toss out one random comparison. rolen 36% from the last cell of the cards' murderer's row, pujols, 39%, thome 24%.

i remember harold reynolds doing similar calcs early in the season to try and demonstrate that OBP is overrated by showing that the slower OBP men just end up just clogging the bases. of course, he didn't show anything because he was comparing leadoff men to cleanup hitters (and probably cherry-picking at that) but it is interesting that the two fat, slow guys above are so low. probably meaningless, but i'd read a study if there was/is one on the subject. (i'm sure there is, actually, and i think i've read it, but i can't remember any of it now except that it had to do w/ ichiro)

John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

bonds has an OPS of over 1.000 this year...after an 0-2 count. that's gotta be unheard of.

John (jdahlem), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

The devil has just reached a career BA of .300, according to his Yahoo stats pages. When you consider that his AVGs his first four seasons were .223, .261, .283, and .248 (seasons where he tallied over 2000 ABs), that's pretty impressive. Before his 2001 season his career BA was .289 and only 3 2/3 seasons of a .350 AVG could do the trick!

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

If he hits safely in his next 13 at bats, he'll be at .400.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 23 August 2004 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the breakdown of who's batted behind Bonds? Pierzynski, Tucker and Snow are all having decent years, and are fairly blazing since the All-Star break.

One of the Mets' radio guys -- I hope it was the oft-clueless Howie Rose -- said yesterday "The Mets have pitched to Bonds, and that's to their credit..." Oh really? If they walked him every time, maybe they win 2 of 3.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

he has a webcam on his site:

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's invite BB to ILX!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

dear bb i want to c all over your steroid t's

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

how much is apple paying him?

John (jdahlem), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Barry needs a nickname. I nominate "Legal."

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link


David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I like when he's called "San Francisco Left Fielder" since he's not part of the players' union or something.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

No, he's not part of the *licensing agreement* ... I'm reading Marvin Miller's autobio, and he has a whole chapter on how the players controlling their images in the marketplace led to a boom in cards. Where has he been called "SF LF"?

Barry since the break:


And that OBP is 50 points LOWER than the first half! He's gone free-swingin' on us!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

good story on bonds in retirement:

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:13 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Barry Bonds had a 5.000 OPS against 23 pitchers, including Guillermo Mota, whom he faced nine times.

mookieproof, Saturday, 28 December 2013 03:06 (eight years ago) link

Do you have to pay extra for the play index, or do I just not know how to use it? Fascinating looking through that list.

1) Against Atlanta's big three: Smoltz (.284/.467/.701), Glavine (.329/.442/.588), Maddux (.262/.370/.485)

2) I think the first good-to-great pitcher to show up on the list (in a decent sample) who was owned by Bonds is Tim Hudson (.407/.500/1.000)

3) Couldn't hit David Cone at all (.175/.267/.275)

4) By Bonds's standards, basically a draw vs. Randy Johnson (.306/.452/.551); hardly went to bat against Clemens, Pedro, or Mussina

clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:03 (eight years ago) link

Name the five guys who finished ahead of Bonds in 1986's ROY voting.

Includes: one (almost?) borderline HOF'er, one future MVP, one pretty good career reliever, a good middle infielder, and one flaky guy of no consequence whatsoever.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Roger McDowell is career reliever, right?

Trying to remember who even won NL that year.... Canseco was AL.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:34 (eight years ago) link

Completely forgot that was Worrell's rookie year. For some reason I thought it was 87 (when he was so dominant).

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:37 (eight years ago) link

You've got Worrell. Geographically speaking, you should have an easy time with three of the other four.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:39 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I looked. Honestly I don't remember that regular season that much (the next year was when I started following A's games religiously) but I definitely remember the post-season.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 December 2013 16:37 (eight years ago) link

I was impressed looking at Robby Thompson's career box. He was damn good until he fell off a cliff at 32.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2013 17:03 (eight years ago) link

Very solid in his day yeah. In a non-Ryne Sandberg alternative universe he would likely have gotten more attention.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 28 December 2013 17:14 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...
one month passes...

mookieproof, Friday, 5 September 2014 18:36 (seven years ago) link

Joan Rivers you are forever loved and will be missed.#RIPJoanRivers

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 5 September 2014 18:50 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:18 (seven years ago) link

thinking baout things

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:19 (seven years ago) link

the player's coffee

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:49 (seven years ago) link

Probably decaf now.

cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Bob Costas sanctimoniously questions Barry's sudden ability to effortlessly lift such a massive cup of coffee, and how Barry ruined the grand old tradition of drinking from a mug.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:55 (seven years ago) link

that is clearly some North Beach cappuccino, his cup has shrunk in recent years

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:57 (seven years ago) link

that neck.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:17 (seven years ago) link


Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:24 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...
two weeks pass...


mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 21:35 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 19:32 (six years ago) link

New Barry seems so chill.

Spottie, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:30 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

feds dropped their case! $6 million well used.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 July 2015 02:36 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

Barry Bonds just beat the Marlins players on a back field HR BP contest. Including Stanton.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:03 (six years ago) link


How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:11 (six years ago) link

Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (666 of them)
He hit #666 last night.

― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, April 20, 2004

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:02 (six years ago) link

Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (667 of them)


Sorry To Be The Bearer Of Bad Poos (Leee), Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:35 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

He's sorry for being a dick all those years. But when he tried not being a dick, he didn't hit as well, so his teammates asked him to be more of a dick again.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 18:52 (six years ago) link

Joking aside, I'll happily take Bonds' side in this. If he wants to be a loner, let him, it's nobody's business.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 18:53 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

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Nicholas Nickelback (Leee), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 23:42 (five years ago) link

what should i ask Barry at the SABR panel in 3 weeks? Ozuna's swing, or how he turned down his assholishness?

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 July 2016 00:39 (five years ago) link

For your sake, the latter.

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 7 July 2016 09:03 (five years ago) link

yeah i knew someone was gonna drive through that; good work, librarian

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 July 2016 11:27 (five years ago) link

find a way to ask both in the same question

moistest hoist (Spottie), Thursday, 7 July 2016 16:16 (five years ago) link

You know I had to Google Ozuna to find out he wasn't a Japanese player.

Nicholas Nickelback (Leee), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:49 (five years ago) link

Ask him why Ichiro doesn't hit more home runs

a simba man (Will M.), Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:10 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

not the devil, but "special advisor" to the Giants' chief executive (whoever that is)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:17 (five years ago) link

back home where he belongs <3

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:28 (five years ago) link

Currently on television, speaking about hitting mechanics, wearing Giants gear.

Andy K, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:48 (five years ago) link

"Can you still hit?"

"Very well."

Andy K, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:51 (five years ago) link

He could still slug as a DH I bet.

Handsome Bookor, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:24 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Van Horn Street, Friday, 14 April 2017 05:44 (five years ago) link

I understand the point he's making, but without a bat, well, you know...

clemenza, Friday, 14 April 2017 17:00 (five years ago) link

five months pass...
four years pass...

John Perrotto was a guest on Friday’s episode of FanGraphs Audio, and among the subjects addressed by the longtime Pittsburgh Pirates beat writer was the team’s famously parsimonious ownership. The penny-pinching ways date back to the departure of Barry Bonds via free agency in 1992. I asked Perrotto if there was there any chance that the the reigning NL MVP was going to stay in Pittsburgh.

“No, the Pirates weren’t going to pay him,” Perrotto said on the podcast. “The picture that has been painted here over the years is [that] Barry hated it in Pittsburgh and couldn’t wait until the minute he could get out of town. That’s not true…. In fact, during the 1992 season — this was some time after the All-Star break, probably in August — I talked to him after a game. Let me set a little background here before I get ahead of myself.

“The two Pittsburgh newspapers were on strike, so you didn’t have as much media as you normally would in the clubhouse after the game,” continued Perrotto, who was covering the team for the suburban Beaver County Times. “He’d been the star of the game… and after we talked about that, I said, ‘Hey, what would it take for you to stay here?,’ thinking he was going to say, ‘I don’t know. That’s something for my agent to discuss.’ [Instead], he goes, ‘Five years/25 million and I’ll sign tomorrow.’ I said, ’Is that on the record?’ He said, ‘Yeah, man. Write it. Five years/25 million and I’ll sign tomorrow.’”

Hall of Fame catcher Ted Simmons was the Pirates GM at the time. Perrotto walked back to the press box, picked up a phone, and called Simmons to pass along what Bonds had said. Simmons — equal parts excited and pleasantly surprised — proceeded to call the team’s president.

“Mark Sauer had been brought in to cut costs.” Perrotto said of the former Pittsburgh executive. “I know people will find this hard to believe, but the Pirates had the sixth-highest payroll in baseball in 1991. They weren’t always cheap; they weren’t always at the bottom of the payroll standings. They did spend money in the early ‘90s, when they won three division titles in the National League East from ’90 to ’92. But they were on a payroll-reduction kick, and Mark Sauer told Ted Simmons, ‘No, we can’t do that.”

Bonds went on to sign a then-record six-year/43.75M contract with the San Francisco Giants in December. As Giants owner Peter Magowan put it at the time, “It’s a lot of money, but there’s only one Barry Bonds.”

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Sunday, 6 March 2022 16:14 (three months ago) link

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