2023 NLDS: Atlanta Braves vs. Philadelphia Phillies

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Game 1: Saturday at Atlanta (TBS, 6:07 p.m. ET)
Game 2: Oct. 9 at Atlanta (TBS, 6:07 p.m. ET)
Game 3: Oct. 11 at Philadelphia (TBS)
Game 4: Oct. 12 at Philadelphia (TBS)*
Game 5: Oct. 14 at Atlanta (TBS)*

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Braves in 4 7
Phillies in 5 3
Braves in 3 1
Braves in 5 1
Phillies in 4 1
Phillies in 3 0


Bee OK, Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:02 (two months ago) link

Braves in 4

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:05 (two months ago) link

Screwed up but hope to get it corrected

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:19 (two months ago) link

Seconded

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:57 (two months ago) link

Phillies in 5

H.P, Friday, 6 October 2023 00:04 (two months ago) link

Braves in 4.

clemenza, Friday, 6 October 2023 00:26 (two months ago) link

Braves in 4

omar little, Friday, 6 October 2023 00:48 (two months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 7 October 2023 00:01 (two months ago) link

Phillies already making noise

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2023 22:14 (two months ago) link

But the Braves do get out of it

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2023 22:14 (two months ago) link

okay that ranger suarez is not the same ranger suarez i watched last year

, Saturday, 7 October 2023 22:56 (two months ago) link

Phillies score first

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2023 23:06 (two months ago) link

Braves first hit in 4th inning

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Saturday, 7 October 2023 23:14 (two months ago) link

feel bad for Suarez - been dealing and two bad luck hits was all it took to pull the cord.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 7 October 2023 23:20 (two months ago) link

Bryce Harper is so good

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2023 23:58 (two months ago) link

Wish he was on my team

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 October 2023 23:59 (two months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:01 (two months ago) link

this performance by strider is really something

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:11 (two months ago) link

i feel like i'm watching a vintage DeGrom performance - strikes out a bunch, has 1-2 mistakes, and the offense does absolutely nothing for the team.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:25 (two months ago) link

otm

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:30 (two months ago) link

What the hell

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:39 (two months ago) link

JFC what is going on

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:39 (two months ago) link

Replay says no, ilo

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:40 (two months ago) link

Imo

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:40 (two months ago) link

Wrong

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:41 (two months ago) link

Have some class

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:42 (two months ago) link

Atlanta crowds are not usually like this.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:45 (two months ago) link

...

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:52 (two months ago) link

Wow

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:56 (two months ago) link

Holy shit what a play

frogbs, Sunday, 8 October 2023 00:58 (two months ago) link

that was some classic Barves postseason baseball

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 8 October 2023 01:13 (two months ago) link

Lol

Bee OK, Sunday, 8 October 2023 01:14 (two months ago) link

Depressingly familiar.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 8 October 2023 01:14 (two months ago) link

It’s a very minor point but looking at the box score, I don’t understand how Strider ended up with only one earned run and not two.

The home run is an earned run on a pitcher. But the first run that scored was from an inning that went like this:

Trea Turner - groundout
Harper - walk (an outcome entirely on the pitcher’s inability to get him out)
Bohm - strikes out. 2 outs in inning.

Strider tries and fails to pick off Harper. Is charged with an error. Harper can get to 2nd.

Stott singles and Harper scores.

So I am maybe missing something really obvious here - is it due to the failed pickoff being ascribed to a fielding error and not pitching, even though the pitcher was the fielder?

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Sunday, 8 October 2023 11:10 (two months ago) link

yes

mookieproof, Sunday, 8 October 2023 11:15 (two months ago) link

the run wasn’t “earned” by the runner because the defense fucked up

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 October 2023 12:32 (two months ago) link

James actually used to argue the same thing--that if the error is charged to the pitcher, the run should be earned.

clemenza, Sunday, 8 October 2023 14:37 (two months ago) link

THe run being earned doesn't mean the pitcher "caused" the run, it means the offence did it without any keystone kops help. I would think James would know that??

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 October 2023 15:34 (two months ago) link

He has his quirks.

clemenza, Sunday, 8 October 2023 15:47 (two months ago) link

Possible clarification: he may have suggested doing that only when calculating Game Score. Not sure...It'd take me a while to pin that down, and I can't do that today; I have a series of high-level meetings scheduled with Ross Atkins and the Blue Jay brain trust, as we try to figure out how to best deploy our assets going forward.

clemenza, Sunday, 8 October 2023 16:41 (two months ago) link

Sorry I've been traveling, Phils in 3.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 8 October 2023 17:56 (two months ago) link

Nah, phuck that.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 8 October 2023 18:01 (two months ago) link

...but Ronald Acuna will lead the series in SBs!!! #MVP

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 8 October 2023 18:12 (two months ago) link

The Phillies were so impressive.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 October 2023 18:25 (two months ago) link

On the run being earned or unearned after the pitcher puts a runner on and then makes a pickoff attempt error, my understanding is that the scoring is determined by recreating the inning as if the throwing error had not occurred.

So if the walked runner advanced to second on the pickoff error and then was batted in on say, a single, on which the runner wouldn't have scored if they had been at first, then the run is unearned.

However, if the runner advanced to second on a pickoff error and the next batter hits a home run, then the runner would have scored whether he had been on first or second and the error did not affect the run. In the latter case, then that run would still be scored as earned against the pitcher's ERA.

felicity, Sunday, 8 October 2023 19:55 (two months ago) link

Yes an important nuance!

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 October 2023 20:18 (two months ago) link

Oh, this is on. Need to get away from war talk anyways

Bee OK, Monday, 9 October 2023 22:35 (one month ago) link

These Phillies might just win the next 5 World Series the way they’re playing. What a force

H.P, Monday, 9 October 2023 23:00 (one month ago) link

These Phillies might just win the next 5 World Series the way they’re playing. What a force

H.P, Monday, 9 October 2023 23:00 (one month ago) link

Yeap, at this point I don't see anyone beating them this year

Bee OK, Monday, 9 October 2023 23:01 (one month ago) link

You can’t be rocking that facial hair on the big stage Strider Marsh

fixed

felicity, Friday, 13 October 2023 01:29 (one month ago) link

ranger has such a beautiful head of hair under that cap

, Friday, 13 October 2023 01:31 (one month ago) link

Fuck

Bee OK, Friday, 13 October 2023 01:56 (one month ago) link

Woop

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 13 October 2023 01:57 (one month ago) link

Well that should just about sets the team's for the next round

Bee OK, Friday, 13 October 2023 01:58 (one month ago) link

I'm Greek, so way to go Greek guy. (Still remember his improbable game-ending catch last year.)

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:01 (one month ago) link

you are pulling your best defensive outfielder in a tight game for a pinch hitter?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:14 (one month ago) link

ride or die baby

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:16 (one month ago) link

Getting interesting

Bee OK, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:19 (one month ago) link

oh man great matchup too

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:20 (one month ago) link

How did he not score?

Bee OK, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:20 (one month ago) link

holy shit Braves just gave up a free run wtf

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:21 (one month ago) link

This is what it's all about for baseball.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 13 October 2023 02:21 (one month ago) link

That’s just some great baseball right there

H.P, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:23 (one month ago) link

What a play

Bee OK, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:23 (one month ago) link

ohhhh my god I thought that was out

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:24 (one month ago) link

That is tough.

Andy K, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:24 (one month ago) link

I was convinced cardiac Craig was gonna give up the grand slam that ab.

H.P, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:24 (one month ago) link

There's three more innings left!

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 13 October 2023 02:24 (one month ago) link

smdh the front page of ESPN is about a shitty football game featuring the Denver Broncos instead of this

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:27 (one month ago) link

gotta hand it to the Philly crowd too these freaks are goin nuts out there

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:31 (one month ago) link

Please, no. Harper in the playoffs is practically the best thing about the playoffs.

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:51 (one month ago) link

Such mixed feelings right now: I like both teams, but the idea of the Dodgers, Orioles, Braves, and Rays all being out is so wild and intriguing.

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:04 (one month ago) link

kinda want the Phils to win but would be fun to see this crowd sweat a bit

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:07 (one month ago) link

Seeing-eye single, yike!

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:08 (one month ago) link

hoooo boy here we go. dunno why Ozuna felt the need to take the extra base there, you're not the tying run. was so close to being out

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:10 (one month ago) link

welp no pressure Strahm

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:12 (one month ago) link

Oh, Pillar--Superman no more.

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:12 (one month ago) link

all down to a guy I have never heard of in my life

frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:13 (one month ago) link

And that's that

omar little, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:16 (one month ago) link

The Braves might possibly the best team I've ever seen that could potentially lose their first round of the playoffs.

― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, September 11, 2023 12:58 PM (one month ago)

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 13 October 2023 03:17 (one month ago) link

Is harper wearing a flashdance altered rashguard under his jersey lol

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 13 October 2023 03:19 (one month ago) link

"Where's the question in that?"--ouch, cold.

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:21 (one month ago) link

First non-Jays series I feel really strongly about: please don't lose to the Diamondbacks.

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:22 (one month ago) link

xp ha! i also thought "so what's the question?" so of course i lol'd

francisF, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:25 (one month ago) link

unclenched harper looks so different hah

, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:26 (one month ago) link

The Phillies fan really are great

Bee OK, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:26 (one month ago) link

bryce has cupping marks all over his arm and back

, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:31 (one month ago) link

Welp! Go D-backs. Braves, go back to sleep.

WmC, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:33 (one month ago) link

Starting next year, any team that wins 100+ games will be given a 2-run lead at the beginning of every postseason game.

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:34 (one month ago) link

If Letterman were still on the air, I do think there's a Top 10 list there: Rob Manfred's ideas for making sure the best regular-season teams advance in the playoffs. (#7: "Win a 100 games, get to draw up your opposition's batting order.")

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 04:34 (one month ago) link

i don't gamble, but i would legitimately be curious if betting sites take into factor the braves continuous (2021 anomaly aside) inability to get out of the divisional round.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 13 October 2023 04:48 (one month ago) link

This may have been mentioned earlier, but I do think websites should stop with the time-honored tradition of doing position-by-position previews as a way to predict playoff winners. (They have to, I know: content.) I'm not sure that idea ever had any validity, but more than ever, throw it right out the window.

clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 05:08 (one month ago) link

Goodbye, Spencer Strider
Who could hang an L on you?
When your change was very filthy
Still I'm gonna miss you 🎶

felicity, Friday, 13 October 2023 05:46 (one month ago) link

very good game

felicity, Friday, 13 October 2023 05:47 (one month ago) link

don't gamble, but i would legitimately be curious if betting sites take into factor the braves continuous (2021 anomaly aside) inability to get out of the divisional round.

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, October 13, 2023 12:48 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's been 2 seasons, it's ridiculous to say this is a real trend. They won the WS in '21 and made it to game 7 of the NLCS in '20. The two years before that were virtually different teams and they both at least put up a fight. Playoffs are a crapshoot.

, Friday, 13 October 2023 06:19 (one month ago) link

2023 104-58 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2022 101-61 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2021 88-73 Won World Series
2020 35-25 Lost NL Championship Series (Won 2 Rounds)
2019 97-65 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2018 90-72 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2017 72-90 Missed Playoffs
2016 68-93 Missed Playoffs
2015 67-95 Missed Playoffs
2014 79-83 Missed Playoffs
2013 96-66 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2012 94-68 Lost NL Wild Card (Won 0 Rounds)
2011 89-73 Missed Playoffs
2010 91-71 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2009 86-76 Missed Playoffs
2008 72-90 Missed Playoffs
2007 84-78 Missed Playoffs
2006 79-83 Missed Playoffs
2005 90-72 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2004 96-66 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2003 101-61 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2002 101-59 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)
2001 88-74 Lost NL Championship Series (Won 1 Round)
2000 95-67 Lost NL Divisional Series (Won 0 Rounds)

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 13 October 2023 06:34 (one month ago) link

What does literally anything from before 2018 have to do with the 2023 Braves? No, I don't think betting sites are taking organizational curses into account when they set their odds

, Friday, 13 October 2023 06:43 (one month ago) link

save it for your WZGC call-in

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 13 October 2023 07:04 (one month ago) link

I'm not the one making the morning show caller argument here lmao

, Friday, 13 October 2023 07:25 (one month ago) link


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