The Dr. Morbius Memorial 2020-2021 MLB Hot Stove Thread

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As one legend leave us, another returns:

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BREAKING: Tony La Russa named #WhiteSox manager. @MLBNetwork @MLB

— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) October 29, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:07 (ten months ago) link

honestly wtf

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:15 (ten months ago) link

fuck

na (NA), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:24 (ten months ago) link

Another sign of this offseason being a brutal market for free agents and arbitration-eligible players: Cleveland isn't picking up a $10 million option on Brad Hand, a three-time All-Star closer coming off a great season for a playoff team.https://t.co/KV4Q6Kn1qH

— Aaron Gleeman (@AaronGleeman) October 29, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:25 (ten months ago) link

Oh god.

xpost

Andy K, Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:31 (ten months ago) link

Tony La Russa is 76 years old. He should be running for President, not managing a baseball team.

— Write Sox (@WriteSox) October 29, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:41 (ten months ago) link

how long before tim anderson gets suspended for calling la russa a "weak ass n*gga"?

— sugar shake (@curlyfro) October 29, 2020

Andy K, Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:42 (ten months ago) link

i am anti-la russa in general but he seems like a particularly bad choice for this set of players

na (NA), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:43 (ten months ago) link

yeah the only thing i can take from this is that they want someone who will bench anderson et al for flipping bats and/or kneeling

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:40 (ten months ago) link

@whitesox email announcement appears to have AJ Hinch Signature. Looks like it was corrected on Twitter. @SoxOn35th @SouthSideSox @SoxMach_pnoles pic.twitter.com/m64LcrshZG

— Gabe (@GabeNotDave) October 29, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:17 (ten months ago) link

White Sox could have been cool.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:53 (ten months ago) link

In my five decades as a baseball fan, there have been very few players or managers I have actually disliked. Two come from the late-'80s A's teams that used to beat up on the Jays: La Russa and Eckersley. Roberto Alomar helped fix that, a little.

clemenza, Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:09 (ten months ago) link

Huh.

Tony La Russa was in the White Sox dugout as manager when Jack Morris threw his no-hitter for the Tigers on April 7, 1984. Now, La Russa is back.

AJ Hinch was in the Tigers' dugout at Comerica Park as a backup catcher when Detroit avoided a historic 120-loss season by beating Ron Gardenhire’s Twins on the final day of the 2003 season. Is Hinch about to return in a different post?

https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/aj-hinch-tigers-manager-search

Andy K, Friday, 30 October 2020 01:54 (ten months ago) link

what was wrong with renteria again?? and don cooper for that matter?

love the thread title.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 October 2020 08:10 (ten months ago) link

renteria has now gotten dicked over twice by chicago baseball teams in favor of bigger names

na (NA), Friday, 30 October 2020 13:31 (ten months ago) link

After firing Rick Renteria as manager after the Sox bowed out of the expanded postseason, Hahn said he wanted to do a deep dive into the pool of available coaches and managers, interview people from forward-thinking organizations and find the right fit for a young, up-and-coming team. When he described the manager he was looking for, it sure sounded like former Houston Astros manager A.J. Hinch, who was fired for his role in the sign-stealing fiasco that rocked baseball, pre-pandemic.

But Hinch was never formally interviewed and instead, they wound up with the boss’ friend. It helps that said friend is a Hall of Famer, but this search put a monkey wrench in the White Sox organization’s image renovation.

sounds like jerry reinsdorf just . . . hired his buddy

mookieproof, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:10 (ten months ago) link

#Rays Neander said they will not pick up either Mike Zunino or Charlie Morton's options. They will be free agents.

— Juan Toribio (@juanctoribio) October 30, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 30 October 2020 15:41 (ten months ago) link

Mark it down -- Oct. 30, 2020, one of the most significant days in franchise history. The Wilpon era is over. The Mets have a new owner, Steve Cohen.

— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) October 30, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 30 October 2020 18:01 (ten months ago) link

Invite user @david_j_roth to thred

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:12 (ten months ago) link

aj hinch is the new tigers manager

na (NA), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:14 (ten months ago) link

BREAKING: Brodie Van Wagenen, Omar Minaya, Allard Baird, Adam Guttridge and Jared Banner are all leaving the Mets.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) November 6, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 6 November 2020 20:14 (ten months ago) link

Sick

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 6 November 2020 20:31 (ten months ago) link

Alex Cora new manager of the Red Sox.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 6 November 2020 22:21 (ten months ago) link

Every big/risky trade Brodie made flopped big time. Even if no one could have predicted Diaz would have such a bad year, and that Stroman would opt out for the entire 2nd year, he probably should have held back a bit. Things will be worse if any of the traded prospects become stars.

(That said, JD Davis was a great pickup and now one of my faves.)

Michael F Gill, Friday, 6 November 2020 22:51 (ten months ago) link

i appreciate that brodie didn't fuck around with alonso's service time and let him start on opening day last year. and that he got degrom re-signed despite the wilpons' cheapness. but yeah

mookieproof, Friday, 6 November 2020 23:13 (ten months ago) link

jeff luhnow has sued the astros for breach of contract

mookieproof, Monday, 9 November 2020 19:29 (ten months ago) link

Chicago White Sox manager Tony La Russa was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence in February and charged with DUI a day before the team hired him, according to court records obtained by ESPN.

News with @pinepaula and @MoynihanCharles: https://t.co/C1lHlik4Zl

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 10, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 02:04 (ten months ago) link

Just mind boggling.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 02:30 (ten months ago) link

How many DUIs does he have (or do we know about?)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 03:05 (ten months ago) link

Only two I think

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 03:34 (ten months ago) link

Here is the full Stroman thread... pic.twitter.com/8nxWzLYRsl

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) November 10, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:24 (ten months ago) link

ESPN obtained the full arrest report for Chicago White Sox manager Tony La Russa's DUI charge.

"Do you see my ring?" La Russa said to the arresting officer. "I'm a Hall of Famer baseball person. I'm legit. I'm a Hall of Famer, brother."

News at ESPN: https://t.co/C1lHlik4Zl pic.twitter.com/GnqS5k7V9e

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 10, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:57 (ten months ago) link

nice of him to use the non-gendered "person" rather than "man"

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 19:21 (ten months ago) link

looooool

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 19:38 (ten months ago) link

Marcus Stroman tweets that he has accepted the Mets' $18.9 million qualifying offer. He'll be back in the rotation in 2021.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) November 11, 2020

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:21 (ten months ago) link

!

Making history by bringing a lifetime of excellence, Kim Ng steps to the helm as GM. #JuntosMiami pic.twitter.com/UrYESbjTHe

— Miami Marlins (@Marlins) November 13, 2020

Andy K, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:00 (ten months ago) link

Tight

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:02 (ten months ago) link

Pretty sure either I or Morbs linked to this 2003 interview somewhere on this board, worth a rescreen imho:

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/2460/prospectus-qa-kim-ng/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:26 (ten months ago) link

She was mentioned as a candidate for several GM jobs this off-season.

Only took 18 seasons...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 16:29 (ten months ago) link

Miami #Marlins GM Kim Ng also believed to be the first GM of any North American men’s sports league in history.

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) November 13, 2020

Andy K, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:35 (ten months ago) link

(tbf there are more than a few female minor league GMs, but the job is very different)

mookieproof, Friday, 13 November 2020 16:43 (ten months ago) link

How overdue is the hiring of Kim Ng? I blogged about her as my candidate of choice for the Dodgers' GM opening that went to... Ned Colletti, in November 2005. 15 years ago today https://t.co/oDlobxGVEs

— Jay Jaffe (@jay_jaffe) November 13, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:04 (ten months ago) link

Theo Epstein has resigned as president of baseball operations for the Chicago Cubs. Jed Hoyer is the new president of baseball operations.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 17, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:04 (ten months ago) link

whoa

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:34 (ten months ago) link

Ground Chuck back to ATL, 1/15.

Andy K, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:22 (nine months ago) link

excited to see half the league get non-tendered this evening

mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:54 (nine months ago) link

Rosario going on waivers (and clearing them) surprised me. I hadn’t realized how overall mediocre he’d been.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 21:07 (nine months ago) link

i can understand why the twins are dumping him -- alex kirilloff can fill that role for a lot less money -- but in a regular 2020 season rosario would have been worth like 2.5 WAR, which should honestly be plenty sufficient for someone to pay him the $9 or $10 million he'd have made in his final year of arbitration. i mean he finished 17th in the AL MVP voting!

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:05 (nine months ago) link

cubs non-tendered schwarber and almora

love how the teams always say they're keeping the door open to bring people back (for less money) -- can anyone think of examples of that actually happening?

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:38 (nine months ago) link

Charlie Culberson?

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Thursday, 3 December 2020 03:14 (nine months ago) link

clown

The speech, which was downloaded to YouTube and went Twitter viral on Sunday morning, offered information that the Mariners' front office would likely never share publicly to the media or the fan base. https://t.co/g4rRecXKxX

— Seattle Times Sports (@SeaTimesSports) February 21, 2021

mookieproof, Monday, 22 February 2021 01:46 (six months ago) link

Mariners have released a statement: Kevin Mather has resigned.

— Corey Brock (@CoreyBrockMLB) February 22, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 22 February 2021 21:15 (six months ago) link

forced to resign for saying out loud what every front office truly believes

remarkable idiocy though. rotarians!

mookieproof, Monday, 22 February 2021 21:22 (six months ago) link

Seattle should put up a statue of Mather for getting Kelenic in the Diaz/Cano trade.

Rocky Thee Stallion (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 00:22 (six months ago) link

Manfred must be so so pissed.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 01:59 (six months ago) link

is it bad that, as a lifelong fan, i want the CBA negotiations 10 months from now to utterly destroy baseball

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 04:06 (six months ago) link

not at all

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 04:55 (six months ago) link

I don’t know if the players deserve that.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 06:18 (six months ago) link

group economics

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 09:44 (six months ago) link

Blue Jays just announced they are no longer going to have a radio team. I still listen all the time in the car or while doing work around the house - and listening to TV broadcasters try to paint a picture of what I can’t see is going to be some serious garbage.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2021 14:13 (six months ago) link

Time for some pirate radio announcers to swoop in

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 27 February 2021 14:55 (six months ago) link

xp Wait, what? Yeah, I listened a lot on the radio. Yet another reminder that I'm old, because this doesn't even compute to me.

francisF, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:31 (six months ago) link

yeah, hoping for a cottage industry of amateur feeds, who knows?

francisF, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:32 (six months ago) link

Oh I see, a "simulcast". Bah, radio is a craft not to be taken on by anyone. Thankfully Wilner is gone at least

francisF, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:34 (six months ago) link

Close your eyes and imagine...

Joe carter rounding the bases after hitting a world series winning home run. One of the biggest hits in baseball history...

As the sound of Buck Martinez's strained "howme rawwwwwnnnnnnnghghghghg...." call trails off, Pat Tabler chimes in with "Joe Carter is a baseball player, Buck."

Our collective souls die a little inside. "Touch 'em all Joe" is so out of reach for our middling TV crew.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:56 (six months ago) link

Time for some pirate radio announcers to swoop in

you don't want any of the pirates' announcers

tbf dan shulman is a total pro and has worked in radio, so if anyone can make it work (assuming he's allowed to!), i'd trust him

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 February 2021 00:46 (six months ago) link

Shulman is a saving grace, definitely

francisF, Sunday, 28 February 2021 01:56 (six months ago) link

for sure.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 28 February 2021 02:34 (six months ago) link

I think it goes more like this:

Close your eyes and imagine...

[Joe carter swings the bat]

Buck: get out of here ball, get out, get out!

[ball clears the fence, crowd erupts, Jays win the series]

Pat: Whoa! How about that!

Hypothetical radio listener: ??????&*&

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 28 February 2021 10:47 (six months ago) link

jbj to brewers, 2 years, 24M

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 March 2021 13:47 (six months ago) link

Blue Jays just announced they are no longer going to have a radio team. "

That' some cheap BS in the age of zoom. F'n Ronnie Reagan was doing baseball radio broadcasts by wire (and many others also did so) back in the paleolithic era.

earlnash, Friday, 5 March 2021 02:13 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Lindor extended w/Mets. Just before April fools.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 1 April 2021 03:19 (five months ago) link

Boy is it gonna be awesome reliving the Manny Ramirez betrayal all over again.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 April 2021 10:30 (five months ago) link

only ‘betrayal’ here was by cleveland ownership

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 April 2021 10:38 (five months ago) link

what was the betrayal?! i was not following baseball in the early Manny years.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 April 2021 13:19 (five months ago) link

afaict the betrayal is "chose to sign with a different team in free agency"?

which i guess is worse than "was offered nothing by a team that has been crying poor for years, got traded to a different team where he was offered one of the biggest contracts of all time and accepted it instead of going back to the first team in free agency for some reason"

but not by much

, Thursday, 1 April 2021 13:56 (five months ago) link

Manny signed with the fucking Red Sox and won a goddamn World Series and Cleveland didn’t.

Yes of course it’s the owners I’m mad at. And at the MLB for not having a salary cap.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:07 (five months ago) link

Poor people should not be allowed to own professional sports teams.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:07 (five months ago) link

tbf he won two world series with the red sox

and larry dolan is worth $4.6 billion, fourth-most among mlb owners

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:13 (five months ago) link

aren't even small market teams fairly profitable? i think the issue might be too many, let's say, "wealth oriented" groups owning teams!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:32 (five months ago) link

ALSO: OPENEING DAY!!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:33 (five months ago) link

thank you all for honoring dr. morbius properly by arguing about something that happened in baseball like 100 years ago

na (NA), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:41 (five months ago) link

bosox/orioles postponed :(

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:43 (five months ago) link

"And at the MLB for not having a salary cap."

wait what

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:58 (five months ago) link

A couple days late, but Mets opening day. I knew they had a good opening day record, but this is amazing:

The Mets begin the 2021 season with the best Opening Day record ever -- a 39-20 (.661) mark that ought to be the envy of every other club. It’s all the more remarkable considering that the Mets, born in 1962, did not win the first game of any season until 1970. They are 39-12 (.765) since then.

the last unvaccinated motherfucker on earth (PBKR), Monday, 5 April 2021 14:48 (five months ago) link

Back of the napkin calculations but the Cleveland Neo-Naps could give Lindor the same contract as the Mets and they would still be 112 millions under luxury tax threshold.

Their revenue in 2019 was 290 millions.

There is no excuses.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:15 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

rich hill to the mets

why are the rays trading away pieces if they're trying to contend by signing nelson cruz

in any case, it's fun that the first two big names to move in this trading deadline are both 41 years old

na (NA), Friday, 23 July 2021 17:30 (one month ago) link

why are the mets trading for rich hill when he's been absolute garbage since the goop got banned

, Friday, 23 July 2021 18:14 (one month ago) link

i think the Rays want Patino to replace Hill, so their math is they're better off with the relievers they're getting back and Patino in the rotation.

why are the rays trading away pieces if they're trying to contend

it’s the only way they know how to live

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 July 2021 01:21 (one month ago) link

really curious what ends up happening with him -- god-tier defense and occasional flashes of offensive brilliance but he'll be 28 this winter and he's fucking hurt all the time. once in seven seasons has he played 100 games! anyway he has one more year of arb before free agency in 2023

Byron Buxton has rejected a contract extension from the Twins, sources tell me and @DanHayesMLB. Story coming.

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) July 25, 2021

mookieproof, Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:09 (one month ago) link

Some team is going to pay a lot of money to get one serviceable season out of the guy.

jesus luzardo has been terrible this year but he still seems like a lot for the a's to give up for two months of starling marte

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:23 (one month ago) link

porntipslizardo

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:58 (one month ago) link

Oh god, Gallo in pin stripes.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 29 July 2021 00:41 (one month ago) link

some large adult outfielders in the bronx

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 July 2021 01:49 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

free agents

yasiel puig
ryan braun
zack cozart
jedd gyorko
sean rodriguez
edwin encarnacion
matt wieters
matt kemp
yoenis cespedes
rick porcello
andrew cashner

i was surprised to see a few of these names

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:56 (two weeks ago) link

You’d think if Pujols could find a team that can make room for him, a few of those dudes on the list could too.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 4 September 2021 18:33 (two weeks ago) link

i am assume some of them are holding out for a better deal, and then it just got too far into the season? i remember reading a few articles recently advocating for one team or another to pick up rick porcello as an innings eater. and maybe covid was a concern for some of them, i don't know.

puig appears to be keeping busy in the Mexican League

Golpe a Yasiel Puig, discusión y se vaciaron las bancas entre Pericos de Puebla y El Águila de Veracruz. pic.twitter.com/cBL1kzqv8v

— Liga Mexicana de Beisbol (@LigaMexBeis) July 23, 2021

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 18:37 (two weeks ago) link


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