Fernando Tatis Jr. is Bringing Joy Back to Baseball

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All the time Tatis spent fixing his foibles paid off. His swings and misses on pitches outside the zone are down by nearly 40% from his rookie season. After committing 18 errors last year, most of them on routine plays, Tatis came around to the idea that every play need not be flashy. He could take the proper angles. Use more feet, less arm. He has zero errors through 16 games this season. As his agent Roger Tomas tells Tatis, sometimes it's OK to be boring.

Perhaps that says as much about who Fernando Tatis Jr. is as anything: He has to actively work at being boring. It took a pandemic and an increasingly monitored set of protocols to keep him from unleashing new sets of choreographed handshakes to celebrate his and the Padres' triumphs. And even constrained -- or as constrained as he can get -- Tatis still manages to make antiseptic, fake-noise-infused, empty-stadium baseball feel urgent.

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 04:37 (six months ago) link

if at any point this thread title stops being true i will quietly resign

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 04:38 (six months ago) link

Going to lose an age-21 season that--only 18 games in, so who knows?--might have been in Trout-Pujols range.

clemenza, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:04 (six months ago) link

just hit #10, not long after trout hit #10

the race to 74 is on

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 03:19 (six months ago) link

#11 grand slam

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 03:43 (six months ago) link

Just reading about this--3-0 count, big lead, people are upset.

Oh, please.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:43 (six months ago) link

unwritten rules of baseball: no joy

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:47 (six months ago) link

he apologized for hitting a grand slam

Tingler, who knows Woodward well from their time together in the Texas organization, wasn’t quite so emphatic. But he spoke with Tatis after the home run and after the game called the moment “a learning opportunity.”

“Just to make sure we get the signs 3-0,” Tingler said. “He’s young, a free spirit and focused and all those things. That’s the last thing that we’ll ever take away. But it’s a learning opportunity.”


fuck a jayce tingler

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:57 (six months ago) link

I'd feel the same at any time, but in this season ("season")? It's not like they desperately need a reason to care or anything.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 15:11 (six months ago) link

Hey @tatis_jr listen up:

1) Keep swinging 3-0 if you want to, no matter what the game situation is
2) Keep hitting homers, no matter what the situation is
3) Keep bringing energy and flash to baseball and making it fun
4) The only thing you did wrong was apologize. Stop that.

— Trevor Bauer (@BauerOutage) August 18, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:48 (six months ago) link

(NOTE: i'm not a Bauer-apologist, I think he's a dbag).

one of the interesting developments is:

https://www.mlb.com/news/ian-gibaut-chris-woodward-suspended

is there a precedent for a post-game suspension allthewhile not getting ejected for throwing behind someone? That seems highly unusual...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 19:51 (six months ago) link

Up by 6 in the 4th inning, Fernando Tatis Jr. just stole third base with two outs on Gibaut

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 21:26 (six months ago) link

Tatis now leads the league in homers, rbi's, runs, and steals.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 21:33 (six months ago) link

And middle fingers!

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 21:38 (six months ago) link

hehe

starting to think that trading James Shields for this guy was worth it

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 21:40 (six months ago) link

Taking this very, very rare opportunity to say "Trevor Bauer otm"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 21:51 (six months ago) link

Up by 6 in the 4th inning, Fernando Tatis Jr. just stole third base with two outs on Ian Gibaut -- who threw behind Manny Machado last night one pitch after Tatis' 3-0 slam.

Tatis is single-handedly burning the sport's unwritten rulebook. I am here for it.

— AJ Cassavell (@AJCassavell) August 18, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 22:39 (six months ago) link

unwritten rules of baseball: no joy

― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:47 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

the crack of the bat. the scent of a verdant field. The excitement of the crowd. These are the things that piss base ball fans off the most

— wint (@dril) June 19, 2018

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 02:00 (six months ago) link

There's no one I'd rather get a fuck-them-all high-five from.

Fernando Tatis keep playing hard and playing great, it’s a pleasure to watch you play, love your success and the Padres rise to be a winner. Keep leading the way. It ain’t easy to hit Hrs. Keep bringing energy you have to the game, we need players like you. An All Star

— Reggie Jackson (@mroctober) August 18, 2020

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 02:59 (six months ago) link

I know a lot of candidates don’t always like to weigh in hot button controversial topics, but I think Tatis swinging on 3-0 was good actually.

— Jess Scarane for Senate (@JessforDelaware) August 18, 2020

💰💰https://t.co/nZd49IwCeF

— Jess Scarane for Senate (@JessforDelaware) August 18, 2020

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 21:20 (six months ago) link

FERNANDO TATIS JR TO THE ROOOOOOOOOOF 🤯🤯🤯🤯#FriarFaithful | @Padres pic.twitter.com/xeXDWsChbf

— Fox Sports Slam Diego (@FOXSportsSD) August 27, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:13 (five months ago) link

noted magician Fernando Tatis Jr. pic.twitter.com/Ckh8pV6gSg

— Sarah Langs (@SlangsOnSports) September 9, 2020

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 01:42 (five months ago) link

five months pass...

I compared Tatis/Soto/Acuna for a Facebook post (pro-rated for 162 games):

Tatis: 44 HR, 31 SB, .301/.374/.582, 154 OPS+, 7.9 WAR
Soto: 36 HR, 12 SB, .295/.415/.557, 151 OPS+, 5.0 WAR
Acuna: 42 HR, 32 SB, .281/.371/.538 133 OPS+, 6.3 WAR

I was trying to think of three players this good at the same age (22/23--the range between Tatis and Acuna is a year and 15 days). I thought of Griffey/Thomas/Bonds, but Bonds was four or five years older than them; if you put aside what we know now, Griffey/Thomas/Gonzalez might be comparable. It's possible you'd have to go back to Mays/Aaron/Mantle, although Aaron was three years younger than the other two.

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 11:37 (six days ago) link

He's only played 75 games, but Bo Bichette--between Soto and Acuna in age--actually falls more or less within the same range:

Bichette: 35 HR, 17 SB, .307/.347/.549, 137 OPS+, 6.9 WAR

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 12:39 (six days ago) link

I miss Morbs.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 February 2021 16:51 (six days ago) link

.

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 19 February 2021 16:58 (six days ago) link

Is there something inherently faulty with that comparison? The three seem pretty related to me. (Bichette is probably a stretch--letting hometown bias creep in there.)

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 17:23 (six days ago) link

Bichette is a very good player. I'm not offended. It's probably too early to give him 350 mil though.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 19 February 2021 20:58 (six days ago) link

Believe me, wasn't inferring that at all. I doubt a Jays fan would even formulate that kind of thought about any player--a willingness to throw around money hasn't been their trademark for quite some time (if it ever was...early '90s, maybe).

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 21:50 (six days ago) link

(I thought the objection was to linking Tatis/Soto/Acuna. Bichette was just an afterthought.)

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 21:55 (six days ago) link

I like Bichette as a comparison because he's an infielder.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 19 February 2021 21:56 (six days ago) link

Tatis, Acuna, and Soto are all awesome, but Bichette isn't that far off on a per-game basis.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 19 February 2021 21:57 (six days ago) link

How about Trout/Harper/Machado after the 2015 season?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 19 February 2021 22:04 (six days ago) link

They might be pretty close, yeah, I'm going to check that. I was fooling around earlier today with Griffey/Thomas/Gonzalez through their age 23 seasons (not quite synchronized--the gap is close to a year-and-half between Thomas and Griffey).

Griffey: 30 HR, 18 SB, .303/.375/.520, 146 OPS+, 6.7 WAR
Thomas: 29 HR, 1 SB, .321/.453/.547, 179 OPS+, 6.9 WAR
Gonzalez: 41 HR, 3 SB, .274/.326/.535, 137 OPS+, 4.0 WAR

Gonzalez was clearly inferior to those two and the current three because of his low OBP. I'd forgotten how great Thomas was, though--that's before his two MVP seasons. His OPS+ stood at 182 through his first eight seasons.

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 22:13 (six days ago) link

feel like soto is about to go on an incredible hitting tear, but as long as the others are playing SS/CF it's gonna be hard for him to compete in WAR

mookieproof, Friday, 19 February 2021 22:27 (six days ago) link

I forgot Acuna signed for 8 years / 100 millions already.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 February 2021 22:48 (six days ago) link

Actually, a bit of hindsight here but make it Trout/Machado/Betts after 2015

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 19 February 2021 22:53 (six days ago) link

Was just about to post when you mentioned Betts. Through 2015 (the age gap is about a year and two months between Trout and Harper--Trout turns 24 in 2015, but after whatever deadline they set for such things, so it counts as his age 23 season on Baseball Reference).

Trout: 35 HR, 29 SB, .304/.397/.559, 169 OPS+, 9.2 WAR
Harper: 31 HR, 12 SB, .289/.384/.517, 144 OPS+, 6.3 WAR
Machado: 25 HR, 11 SB, .281/.330/.458, 114 OPS+, 6.1 WAR
Betts: 19 HR, 24 SB, .291/.348/.471, 119 OPS+, 6.9 WAR

Good comparison, although Machado and Betts are just getting going as hitters in 2015 (but make up for that in WAR on defense).

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:00 (six days ago) link

I did think of Trout/Harper earlier, but Machado/Betts slipped my mind as a third wheel.

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:01 (six days ago) link

(deadline is july 1 for 'age year')

mookieproof, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:01 (six days ago) link

Agree with you that WAR comparisons within each group become trickier when you've got Tatis (or Machado) in the infield, even with a positional adjustment--hard for Soto to keep up. Putting the three-year age gap aside, Mays/Aaron/Mantle makes more sense as a group.

clemenza, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:09 (six days ago) link

a willingness to throw around money hasn't been their trademark for quite some time

This irl made me laugh. Last big extension for the jays was, I think, Vernon Wells.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 20 February 2021 00:34 (five days ago) link


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