2019 AL Cy Young

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There's been at least one tie in the past, Hernandez and Stargell in '79 (which would not be close to a tie today). Are writers actually allowed to split their #1? I think I might consider that if were a voter.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Gerrit Cole 5
Justin Verlander 2
somebody else 1
Mike Minor 0


clemenza, Monday, 30 September 2019 12:41 (two months ago) link

I have Cole but then I’m a fip/fwar guy.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 30 September 2019 18:36 (two months ago) link

i'd go with Cole too.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 September 2019 18:46 (two months ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/colander.jpg

IP, K/BB, WHIP, R/G, and Game Score to Verlander; ERA, ERA+, and FIP to Cole. bWAR Verlander, fWAR Cole--combined, slight edge to Cole. Baseball Prospectus tied, but Verlander if you carry it to a second decimal.

clemenza, Monday, 30 September 2019 19:47 (two months ago) link

I don't know who should win, but I think Verlander will; that took hold early, and Cole had to clearly overtake him. He may have indeed overtaken him, but I don't think clearly.

clemenza, Monday, 30 September 2019 19:49 (two months ago) link

gamescore and allWARs look like a wash. WHIP and K/BB is slightly in favour of Verlndr. Total Ks, ERA, ERA+ & FIP all tips things in favour of Cole.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 September 2019 20:01 (two months ago) link

that took hold early, and Cole had to clearly overtake him

one could just as easily say that finishing strong is more important. all the games count

mookieproof, Monday, 30 September 2019 20:08 (two months ago) link

I always try to look at thing through the prism of what I think will happen, not what should. I've always maintained strong finishes matter. But Verlander finished strong too, strong enough to mitigate whatever advantage Cole has there; Verlander was 11-2, 2.06 after the break, with a 9.8 K/BB ratio (and only 10 of his 36 HR).

For me, it is literally a tie. And that's how I'd vote if the rules allow for it.

clemenza, Monday, 30 September 2019 21:34 (two months ago) link

John Means for finishing with a winning record for the 2019 Orioles

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 30 September 2019 21:41 (two months ago) link

def a consideration.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 September 2019 21:43 (two months ago) link

WHIP is cool but I don't know if I give it as much importance as FIP and K/BB and era+ and even RAA.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 30 September 2019 21:49 (two months ago) link

Fair enough. I’m not even sure what RAA is.
It is pronounced like a tiny dinosaur roar?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 00:23 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

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System, Monday, 11 November 2019 00:01 (one month ago) link

I voted for Cole, but only because I didn't include a tie option.

clemenza, Monday, 11 November 2019 00:07 (one month ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 00:01 (one month ago) link

rosenthal picked verlander, largely based on WHIP

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 00:02 (one month ago) link


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