Marcus Stroman won't stop tweeting; 2019 Vlad Guerrero Jr/Blue Jays thread

i'm really starting to hate Stroman. constant humble bragging about his lifestyle to bitching about how unfair the game is to him/players and now this:

Stromans puppy 4 days ago. Stromans puppy 24hrs ago. Apparently HDMH stands for Height Doesnt Measure Humanity. pic.twitter.com/SiMZuYGWF2

— 🕶 (@JaysTrain2Reign) March 11, 2019

which is a shame because i love the intensity and hustle he brings to the field.

anyways. Anthony Alford is having an electric spring and i'd love to see him open as our starting LF or CF. hopefully last year was a fluke. (i hope this comment doesn't age brutally)

ugh - didn't realize the pic would display like that... sorry everyone!

When he's winning and the team's winning, I want all the theatrics from him that I don't want when they're not. (I get the feeling he's really worried about going on the market--another poor season and his value will be comparatively nothing--so he's flailing about trying to do this, that, and the other to get an extension.)

Why the fuck would you do that to a dog

Sorry, I just glided past the dog photos--Stroman did that? I don't get it. When I said theatrics, I meant his on-field theatrics.

Ya he did that for reasons beyond my understanding. I had to unfollow him on social medi a while back because I couldn’t handle his jeuvenile bs anymore.

https://www.thedodo.com/ear-cropping-cruel-1212872917.html

it's a shitty thing that people do to their dogs for aesthetic reasons. when i see it in vancouver it's exclusively rich peoples' dogs. but i think the practice has origins in dog fighting

That was my first thought when I saw the ears (not that I thought he was fighting the dog, but it’s the dog fighting “look”.

So the Jays just gave 50% raises to all their minor leaguers apparently!

Bo Bichette this spring: 42 PA, .421/.476/.816. That has to be ideal for a young guy playing in the shadow of someone like Guerrero.

it's just spring, but ya - certainly beats him going 5/30. he's also looked pretty good in the field. he keeps this up and i think we'll see him up some time after the break (whenever the super-two date passes).

with him, Vlad, Jansen and Borucki all (probably) playing this year, i'm going to enjoy watching them this season. when i saw that "faith and hope" thing on mlbtr, all i could think about is how much i'm looking forward to this season and the seasons to come – with Biggio, Smith and Pearson all due to debut over the next couple years. it's going to be fun.

i'm going to the game at the olympic stadium tonight! no vlad :( but maybe bichette/biggio?

anyone i shd keep an eye out for? man the jays depth chart is one of the most deeply uninteresting rosters i've seen in a while :/

conversely the brewers depth chart is nice

I was going to lead with "Please post if you see the ghost of ______________," but I just looked up 15 or 20 Expos from the early '70s, and every last one of them is still alive.

Only spring training, for sure. I was just thinking of how much harder it would be for Bichette if all the focus were on him. He's totally under the radar--if Guerrero had had that kind of spring, he'd probably be a bigger story than the Raptors or Leafs right now.

not much on display at that game i am afraid! barely anything even hit as far as the outfield for the first six innings. nice little rally to win it though, and the fact that there's a dude named nate orf meant we got to yell ORF SIDE LONG BEACH a few times, so that was fun! also a "bo bichette" chant started and it took me a second to realize they weren't saying "holy shit"

Bo-ba-fett! Bo-ba-fett! Bo-ba-fett!

Kendrys traded to the As! it's Rowdy time!

Keep getting rid of that dead weight--couple more to go.

48 mil going out to players not on the team!

And looks like they added Alford instead of Tellez.

If Stroman were to have a great year on a poor team, I think he could well be unbearable.

I'm looking forward to seeing whether the Jays can pull off their first proper rebuild since the 80's. Hopefully Stroman also realizes that the window opens next year?

If anyone was born to berate management and demand a trade via Twitter, Stroman's the guy. So I hope you're right.

Between us being the '71 Orioles on the mound or the Tigers being the '68 White Sox with the bat, I'm guessing it's the latter.

Too bad we don't have anyone in the minors who might help jumpstart the offense.

Bichette?

http://phildellio.tripod.com/vladimir.jpg

Not bad. The fact that I noticed Cleveland was the beneficiary before I thought "April Fools" tells you how trustworthy I find current management when it comes to possible collusion.

pillar to the giants

You're next, Stroman.

I'm liking this DePaula guy we're getting back, btw.

Down at the game tonight. Until Vlad gets here, that place is officially a morgue. Attendance: 12,110.

What do we think of Grichuk's extension? I guess the price is right, so why not.

Through six games, the Jays are 1 for 55 in the first three innings.

re: Gritch – it's ok i guess. he a good defender, young and can hit some dingers. so there's some value there and they pay looks appropriate. maybe what's more important is the team is signalling (in this small way) that they are interested in keeping *some* guys around.

Vladisaur Jr. will be activated off the IL for tonight's Dunedin Blue Jays vs. Clearwater Thrashers game.

first homer of the minor league season belongs to cavan biggio (off gio gonzalez)

This season is going to both suck - and be fun as shit.

VladJr goes 1-4 with a run scored for High A Dunedin route of the Clearwater Thrashers.

Outshined by Cavan Biggio!

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2829741-blue-jays-reply-to-fan-asking-about-source-of-justin-smoak-info-literally-us.amp.html

Looking at the Jays boxscore today (so today's game is included), eight of the nine guys in the starting lineup are hitting between .077-.217; five are sub-Mendoza.

I thought Toronto's .183/.261/.318 slash line might be historically significant, but there are three or four teams right there with us or worse this year.

ya, it hasn't been that long. just feels long. gonna be another long two weeks.

matty shoes for cy young

bo bichette, broken hand

matty shoes for cy young

the Curse of Mook

Happy Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Day! @BlueJays

— Marcus Stroman (@MStrooo6) April 26, 2019

We were trying to guess where he'd be in the order today: 2nd or 5th for me, a co-worker thought 7th.

He has arrived. Ya llegó. @vladdyjr27 @VladGuerrero27 #VladDay #VladdyJr pic.twitter.com/pkKroNvshO

— Marly Rivera (@MarlyRiveraESPN) April 26, 2019

Along the same lines: sad, but Grichuk is the first Jay to lead the team in six key offensive categories (they ran through them last night: I think it was hits, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, and something else). A .233 hitter, OBA under .300.

On the radio they were all “he’s been eleit this season”... ya, no.

At $5M, maybe he's something of a bargain, I don't know. But the fact is, his OPS+ is below league average, and he's 0.5 WAR. He strikes me as basically a replacement-level player this year, so what's the market value for someone right at replacement level?

Less than what he’s gettting paid the next few years.

Old stats bear out new stats (James tweet):

"Once more, 38% of you got it right, which was a plurality. Randal Grichuk missed more opportunities to drive in runs than any other major league player in 2019."

He seems to have done much better when he wasn't batting cleanup.

first of a series in which young-ish blue jays write scouting reports on themselves, which is an interesting angle

https://www.mlb.com/news/blue-jays-thomas-pannone-aims-to-improve

Pearson struck out 3/3 yankees today on 10 pitches.

Go Jays. (I would've entered the '92 team rather than the '93 team. The '93 team had more star-glamour and the big offense, but the pitching advantage to the '92 teams is sizable.)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/article-classic-jays-and-expos-to-face-off-in-computer-simulated-playoff-to/

"'92 team"

give me that '87 outfield any day.

Sorry, but after extensive professional counselling, I have successfully obliterated 1987 from my memory.

I only remember the glory.

The no travel restrictions element of this is particularly interesting for #BlueJays given the Canada fed gov’s seemingly more stringent response compared to that of the United States’ fed gov. What happens if teams can travel within the US but still can’t cross the border? https://t.co/HPLIsUMrvY

— Laura Armstrong (@lauraarmy) March 27, 2020

@joe_sheehan
Remember that in 1995, Ontario law barred the use of strike breakers, so the Blue Jays were going to have to play in Dunedin before that plan, brought to you by Hall of Famer Bud Selig, fell apart.

Hadn't given him any thought until I saw this, and then I thought yeah, what happened?

https://jaysjournal.com/2020/03/30/toronto-blue-jays-whatever-happened-chris-colabello/

toronto has banned all public events through june 30

doesn't include sporting events. its things that require a special city permit for, like pride or caribana.

http://theathletic.com/1701961/2020/03/30/a-shocking-fun-yet-legit-ranking-of-the-greatest-blue-jays-position-players/

Three different lists--the first one is partly a joke.

I was up at 4:00 last night watching the bat-flip game...A couple of things I'd forgotten: 1) the fantastic one-handed play Donaldson made just prior to the bizarre errant throwback that put the Rangers up; 2) the Pompey slide at home just before Bautista's home run--that the catcher somehow managed to hang on to the ball, and that Texas was fishing for a double-play because of the slide. I've never heard anything like the noise-level, and right from the start of the game; it was so loud, there were constant audio drop-offs. The broadcast crew didn't even mention the bat-flip for at least the first four or five minutes after the home run (went to bed at that point).

how

how on earth do you go to bed right after that?!

I felt confident they would win.

vlad moving to 1B

Not sure if they want him as a back-up 1b option, or if they’ve just realized he’s never going to be a passable 3b and want him there full time.
Either way, about time.

Also surprised the revive wasn’t about a storman tweet.

I guess I wasn't paying attention down the stretch last year, because I didn't realize--until they were talking on the radio yesterday--how badly Guerrero faded at the end (.232/.264/.293 in September, no HR). They also said that, according to Guerrero, that's because he was worn out.

The punchline: he comes back this year not having lost any weight. Maybe you can place some of the blame on the pandemic, but wow, that seems clueless.

idk -- the weight isn't ideal, but it's pretty common for players that young to fade in their first season playing that many games

i understand the lack of nu-thread motivation when the season may end next week, but i was lookin fwd to "2020 Buffalo Jays"

(xpost) True, but it's hard to believe Guerrero's weight didn't play a part in that, maybe a large part. Honestly, I'd give him some kind of an ultimatum on the weight, within a reasonable time frame. If he doesn't get rid of it, get rid of him, when he still has tons of trade value, and spare yourself the next Prince Fielder/Ryan Howard.

Aside from that one home run last night, he hasn’t looked so hot so far.

Anyways - really looking forward to watching Pearson pitch tonight!

xp jesus you're hard to please! howard wasn't a full-time starter until age 26, fielder age 22. they combined for 10 top-10 mvp finishes before hitting walls at age 30. howard turned into a joke because the phillies gave him an absurd contract, not because he wasn't an extremely good player for five or six years

the jays don't have to pay vlad $30m for each of his decline years, they simply get to work with him for a while while paying him very little. he was an above-league-average hitter as a 20-year-old, which is extremely rare, and he is roughly the same size as pete alonso, whose weight doesn't seem to concern many people

admittedly he hasn't torn shit up like his reputation suggested, but it's not like the jays are pressed for time or have any better options, so you might as well be patient -- he has a very high ceiling and even if he doesn't pan out it won't be anywhere near the disasters you mention

That's it--just disappointment in the gap between good rookie season and the second coming.

Are the Aerostar uniforms new?

https://cs.copart.com/v1/AUTH_svc.pdoc00001/PIX133/ce4e5875-3245-48c8-bf24-bf86100f3e20.JPG

hahaha I knew they looked familiar
yes they're new, and they're quite ugly

I like the powder blue!

Also they are playing like dog shit today. Like fucking single A amateurs.

I'm against powder blue in the loose-fitting age in general. How do you like the hats?

Vladdy looking especially like a DH today that may or may not be able to hit. I hate to be negative but I have difficulty watching this team sometimes

esp. with those uniforms :'D

Vlad has been one of the hardest things to watch about this team.

def.

hits a home run on queue

I should trash talk him more often.

last time i checked this game was 8-2 and now it's 11-11

I saw that. Turned it back on. Now they’re down 14-11 almost right away.

maybe if Stroman re-signs with the Jays this winter you lazyboys can keep using this thread

Stroman tweets will always be relevant!
Speaking of which, I saw he opted out of the season. Pretty amazing haul the Jays got for him considering he only wound up starting 11 games.

not when you consider who they traded with :/

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/geddy-lee-cardboard-cutout-blue-jays/

This team is so much goddamn fun to watch.

My interest had been awakened a bit before the Yankees series. Hard to care at this point, even if they back into a "playoff" spot.