Marcus Stroman won't stop tweeting; 2019 Vlad Guerrero Jr/Blue Jays thread

i'm really starting to hate Stroman. constant humble bragging about his lifestyle to bitching about how unfair the game is to him/players and now this:

Stromans puppy 4 days ago. Stromans puppy 24hrs ago. Apparently HDMH stands for Height Doesnt Measure Humanity. pic.twitter.com/SiMZuYGWF2

— 🕶 (@JaysTrain2Reign) March 11, 2019

which is a shame because i love the intensity and hustle he brings to the field.

anyways. Anthony Alford is having an electric spring and i'd love to see him open as our starting LF or CF. hopefully last year was a fluke. (i hope this comment doesn't age brutally)

ugh - didn't realize the pic would display like that... sorry everyone!

When he's winning and the team's winning, I want all the theatrics from him that I don't want when they're not. (I get the feeling he's really worried about going on the market--another poor season and his value will be comparatively nothing--so he's flailing about trying to do this, that, and the other to get an extension.)

Why the fuck would you do that to a dog

Sorry, I just glided past the dog photos--Stroman did that? I don't get it. When I said theatrics, I meant his on-field theatrics.

Ya he did that for reasons beyond my understanding. I had to unfollow him on social medi a while back because I couldn’t handle his jeuvenile bs anymore.

https://www.thedodo.com/ear-cropping-cruel-1212872917.html

it's a shitty thing that people do to their dogs for aesthetic reasons. when i see it in vancouver it's exclusively rich peoples' dogs. but i think the practice has origins in dog fighting

That was my first thought when I saw the ears (not that I thought he was fighting the dog, but it’s the dog fighting “look”.

So the Jays just gave 50% raises to all their minor leaguers apparently!

Bo Bichette this spring: 42 PA, .421/.476/.816. That has to be ideal for a young guy playing in the shadow of someone like Guerrero.

it's just spring, but ya - certainly beats him going 5/30. he's also looked pretty good in the field. he keeps this up and i think we'll see him up some time after the break (whenever the super-two date passes).

with him, Vlad, Jansen and Borucki all (probably) playing this year, i'm going to enjoy watching them this season. when i saw that "faith and hope" thing on mlbtr, all i could think about is how much i'm looking forward to this season and the seasons to come – with Biggio, Smith and Pearson all due to debut over the next couple years. it's going to be fun.

i'm going to the game at the olympic stadium tonight! no vlad :( but maybe bichette/biggio?

anyone i shd keep an eye out for? man the jays depth chart is one of the most deeply uninteresting rosters i've seen in a while :/

conversely the brewers depth chart is nice

I was going to lead with "Please post if you see the ghost of ______________," but I just looked up 15 or 20 Expos from the early '70s, and every last one of them is still alive.

Only spring training, for sure. I was just thinking of how much harder it would be for Bichette if all the focus were on him. He's totally under the radar--if Guerrero had had that kind of spring, he'd probably be a bigger story than the Raptors or Leafs right now.

not much on display at that game i am afraid! barely anything even hit as far as the outfield for the first six innings. nice little rally to win it though, and the fact that there's a dude named nate orf meant we got to yell ORF SIDE LONG BEACH a few times, so that was fun! also a "bo bichette" chant started and it took me a second to realize they weren't saying "holy shit"

Bo-ba-fett! Bo-ba-fett! Bo-ba-fett!

Kendrys traded to the As! it's Rowdy time!

Keep getting rid of that dead weight--couple more to go.

48 mil going out to players not on the team!

And looks like they added Alford instead of Tellez.

If Stroman were to have a great year on a poor team, I think he could well be unbearable.

I'm looking forward to seeing whether the Jays can pull off their first proper rebuild since the 80's. Hopefully Stroman also realizes that the window opens next year?

If anyone was born to berate management and demand a trade via Twitter, Stroman's the guy. So I hope you're right.

Between us being the '71 Orioles on the mound or the Tigers being the '68 White Sox with the bat, I'm guessing it's the latter.

Too bad we don't have anyone in the minors who might help jumpstart the offense.

Bichette?

http://phildellio.tripod.com/vladimir.jpg

Not bad. The fact that I noticed Cleveland was the beneficiary before I thought "April Fools" tells you how trustworthy I find current management when it comes to possible collusion.

pillar to the giants

You're next, Stroman.

I'm liking this DePaula guy we're getting back, btw.

Down at the game tonight. Until Vlad gets here, that place is officially a morgue. Attendance: 12,110.

What do we think of Grichuk's extension? I guess the price is right, so why not.

Through six games, the Jays are 1 for 55 in the first three innings.

re: Gritch – it's ok i guess. he a good defender, young and can hit some dingers. so there's some value there and they pay looks appropriate. maybe what's more important is the team is signalling (in this small way) that they are interested in keeping *some* guys around.

Vladisaur Jr. will be activated off the IL for tonight's Dunedin Blue Jays vs. Clearwater Thrashers game.

first homer of the minor league season belongs to cavan biggio (off gio gonzalez)

This season is going to both suck - and be fun as shit.

VladJr goes 1-4 with a run scored for High A Dunedin route of the Clearwater Thrashers.

Outshined by Cavan Biggio!

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2829741-blue-jays-reply-to-fan-asking-about-source-of-justin-smoak-info-literally-us.amp.html

Looking at the Jays boxscore today (so today's game is included), eight of the nine guys in the starting lineup are hitting between .077-.217; five are sub-Mendoza.

I thought Toronto's .183/.261/.318 slash line might be historically significant, but there are three or four teams right there with us or worse this year.

ya, it hasn't been that long. just feels long. gonna be another long two weeks.

matty shoes for cy young

bo bichette, broken hand

matty shoes for cy young

the Curse of Mook

Happy Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Day! @BlueJays

— Marcus Stroman (@MStrooo6) April 26, 2019

We were trying to guess where he'd be in the order today: 2nd or 5th for me, a co-worker thought 7th.

He has arrived. Ya llegó. @vladdyjr27 @VladGuerrero27 #VladDay #VladdyJr pic.twitter.com/pkKroNvshO

— Marly Rivera (@MarlyRiveraESPN) April 26, 2019

Bo now 1/5th of the way to his dad's career bWAR! (only a smidgen over 1/10th of the way according to fWAR).

Another record last night...sort of--these x-number-of-games records are admittedly a little contrived.

🚨 MLB HISTORY ALERT 🚨@19boknows is the only player EVER to record 15 extra-base hits in his first 15 games! pic.twitter.com/5PL1ljeUsw

— Toronto Blue Jays (@BlueJays) August 13, 2019

They Won't Shut Up About Bo Bichette: 2019 Blue Jays Thread

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EB7t92uXUAAP4xh.jpg:small

ha!

2020 Blue Jays Thread: *I* won't shut up about Nate Pearson.

Didn't realize we had more spawn on the way: Griffin Conine, currently leading the Midwestern League in HR. (22 in A-ball doesn't seem that special, but they had somebody on the call-in yesterday who was high on him.)

http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=conine000gri

Oh--50-game suspension last year.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/suspended-blue-jays-prospect-griffin-conine-releases-statement-twitter/

he's def got his flaws. his k-rate is the big red flag. he's also playing around dudes roughly his age, normally with prospects you like to see them succeeding against players older than them. not sure why they haven't promoted him either – if it's the Ks or his defence or what.

That's the thing that gives me pause too--by "22 in A-ball," I meant his age, not how many HR he's hit. They'll have to start moving him up the ladder quickly if they want him up here before he's 25.

(They always link fathers-sons-brothers on Baseball Reference, but they don't Griffin linked to Jeff yet.)

maybe BR knows something Jeff/Griffin don't!

I clicked on "contact" and sent them a message about this a few days ago, got a response today:

"We only link major league player relationships. If Griffin makes it to the majors, then we'd add the link on his newly created major league page."

That seems kind of silly to me. Your father is only officially your father if you make it to the majors.

I wonder if Guerrero's finished for the year? Not a lot of incentive to bring him back too quickly.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/expect-blue-jays-cautious-guerrero-jr-regardless-diagnosis/

This would be his 3rd IL stint this year iirc?

They’re saying that the mri came back clean, so I’d be surprised if he was done for the year, even with being cautious.

#17 prospect and 2016 first round pick TJ Zeuch just threw a no hitter for the AAA Bisons!

First Bison no-hitter since Bartolo in 1997:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u2Hb12Tieg

(Odd that Zeuch only struck out three, though--more luck than usual, I would think.)

I know there was some good plays behind him. I think pitching to contact and not having a lot of battles was what allowed him to go the full 9.

True enough--the high-strikeout, CG no-hitter is pretty much extinct.

Getting killed, but Bo has homered twice off Kershaw.

Thermo's guy, Nate Pearson, had a great triple-A debut last night: 7 innings, 3 hits, 3 strikeouts, no walks or runs, 55 strikes in 88 pitches. Maybe he and Zeuch and one more solid starter will be enough to get us back into the wild-card picture next year. (Probably jumping the gun by a year--and if they're looking to trade, they'll likely have to part with Biggio or one of the young catchers to get that starter. I don't know what else they can offer.)

i see Zeuch as another Pannone/SRF type who could eat up innings at the major league level, but not much beyond that. Pearson I'm obv pretty high on – Kay could also have some impact next year (who we got for Stroman). and then it's probably 1-2 full years before we see the younger guys in our top-10 (Manoah, Pardinho, SWR, Kloffenstein). hopefully we can lure a mid-rotation guy in the offseason – see if we can compete for the WC next year - and bridge us to the younger, high-ceiling guys who are all looking p good so far.

Former Jay, but I'll post here.

http://nypost.com/2019/08/24/mets-marcus-stroman-sounds-off-on-just-about-everything/

The title reeled me in: "This should be great, he's going to go off on the Jays, Shapiro, Sanchez, everything." I've only skimmed, but he sounds off on just about nothing.

the pen blew it, but Kay's debut went well today. his curve looked filthy at times. even my five year old was wowed by the pitch he ended the first with, that Meadows thought was going to hit him.

Stroman also pitched tonight. 4 ER in 4 IP with half the strikeouts (4) Kay racked up through 5.2!

must you?

Bo wears a throwback mullet

my daughter wants me to have hair like him.

http://bluejayhunter.com/2019/09/impossible-task-naming-every-2019-blue-jays-pitcher.html

i got 21. missed a couple obvious ones.

blue jays twitter is aghast that the team released clayton richard on his birthday

he apparently just taught Thornton the curveball he used in the Red Sox game yesterday (where he did pretty well) too!

Jesus - Tim Meza justvwent down in a heap on the mound. Dude was in tears, it did not look good.

this game was emotional.

saw the clip on the twitter: looked like a UCL tear. has he been TJ'd?

Not that I know of - UCL was my guess right away.

TJ confirmed.

2/3 from the Yanks - not bad! Was there today to see Zeuch get his first pro W.

Biggio!!!

https://i.redd.it/cugsfbebkdn31.png

Keith Laws irrational hatred of anything Blue Jays is becoming comical.

Wild game tonight, I wonder how many lead changing two out ninth inning grand slams have there been in Jays history?

This is such weird/bad baseball right now, I love it.

V. happy we avoided the 100 losses season.

We’re looking at pick#5 in the draft.

And I came here because BIGGIO JUST LEGIT BUNNTED A MF DOUBLE

Trent Thornton now tied for the team lead in wins (six).

Along the same lines: sad, but Grichuk is the first Jay to lead the team in six key offensive categories (they ran through them last night: I think it was hits, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, and something else). A .233 hitter, OBA under .300.

On the radio they were all “he’s been eleit this season”... ya, no.

At $5M, maybe he's something of a bargain, I don't know. But the fact is, his OPS+ is below league average, and he's 0.5 WAR. He strikes me as basically a replacement-level player this year, so what's the market value for someone right at replacement level?

Less than what he’s gettting paid the next few years.

Old stats bear out new stats (James tweet):

"Once more, 38% of you got it right, which was a plurality. Randal Grichuk missed more opportunities to drive in runs than any other major league player in 2019."

He seems to have done much better when he wasn't batting cleanup.

first of a series in which young-ish blue jays write scouting reports on themselves, which is an interesting angle

https://www.mlb.com/news/blue-jays-thomas-pannone-aims-to-improve