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In tomorrow's @nytimes, a 24-page special section on the 100th anniversary of Jackie Robinson's birth. Designed with @waynekamidoi and @fredeeky

— andrea margaret (@zagatam) January 30, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link


( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

damn, Thursday is not one of my days to buy the paper! gonna have to forage

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link

After his birth in Georgia 100 years ago today, Jackie Robinson moved with his family to Southern California where he lived until he began his career for the Dodgers. #JackieRobinson #JR100

— Amy Essington, PhD (@Prof_Essington) January 31, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

JR with the montreal royals in 1946: 124 G, .349/.468/.462, 3 HR, 92 BB, 27 K, 40 SB, 15 CS, 113 R. team went 100-54 to win the international league

mookieproof, Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

Robinson walks outside Ebbets Field, the day after he broke the color barrier and became the first African-American to play in the Major Leagues. April 16, 1947.

omar little, Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

this section in Empire Strikes Out (Elias, 2012) on Jackie Robinson being used by cold warriors as a counter to Paul Robseon then later regretting it is interesting to me--the last paragraph, especially. The amount of pressure he was under to be The Good Black Man was incredible.

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) January 31, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

Happy 100th Birthday Jackie! #JR100

— Dick Allen (@DickAllen_15) January 31, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

I mentioned this in one of the Dock Ellis threads: in the DE documentary there's audio of Ellis reading an encouraging letter Robinson wrote to him at the height of Dock's notoriety, around 1971, and Ellis just bursts out in sobs. It's tremendously moving, and a hint of how much he meant to black players who were kids in the '40s and '50s.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

I imagine someone's done this (post a link if you know of anything): what might his career stats have been if he'd debuted at 20 or 21 instead of 28? I'd estimate 250 HR, 2,700 hits, 350 SB (when that would have been a huge total), 80 or 85 WAR.

clemenza, Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

other baseball greats born on january 31:
ernie banks (1931)
nolan ryan (1947)
yuniesky betancourt (1982)

mookieproof, Thursday, 31 January 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I wanted to show my class 42, but a quick check of IMBD and, as expected, lots of language. So I showed them The Jackie Robinson Story instead, which had been sitting on my shelf unwatched for many years.

"N______" turns up once, much to my surprise. (I stopped the film and we talked for a minute.) Other than that, the story is watered down in the way you'd expect (but which is good for kids...or at least good for teachers if you're answerable to a principal and parents). Robinson is okay playing himself. That sounds bizarre, but that's about all you can say; he's okay. I've never heard Branch Rickey talk, but the guy who plays him doesn't look remotely like Rickey, nor does he come across in the way that I always envisioned Rickey to be. Subjective impression--I could be totally wrong. I didn't expect the bulk of the film (we've still got six minutes to go) would be pre-Dodgers.

The thing that's hardest to adjust to--I asked the class if they picked up on this; amazingly, no one seemed to--is how unbelievably slow and stilted the film is. (Typically, they were more concerned about the fact that it's black and white.) It's pretty much on a level with Ed Wood in the pacing department. It eschews corny Hollywood theatrics for big dead empty spaces.

clemenza, Saturday, 2 March 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

it’s good that they recognize him, and i honestly think mlb does good things regarding diversity (even if the ultimate goal is further profit)

but man they really drive the jackie robinson thing into the ground, as if everything was solved 73 years ago

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 April 2020 03:15 (three years ago) link

I think Jackie Robinson said exactly that, standing beside a very agitated Bowie Kuhn 48 years ago.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 April 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

One of the other volunteers at a Statford vaccination clinic yesterday went to school with Robinson's son David, and he also attended a commencement address given by Robinson a few years later. (He's American, his wife is Canadian.) Also: saw Koufax pitch in Shea Stadium. The only thing he remembers is that he thinks the Mets didn't score, which would narrow it down to one of these three games:

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

I watched 42 today! Some very uncomfortable viewing, I mentioned the Pee Wee Reese moment in my thread maybe, which is supposedly maybe apocryphal but in the context of the film was genuinely heartening ofc.

What Mookieproof says re the unsolved nature of racism in the game was on my mind reading this thread. I liked that the film showed that his teammates didn’t accept him, that there is that scene with Rickey & Reese in the office where the latter is complaining about the hate mail and Rickey just takes out sheafs of hate mail sent to Robinson and hands it to him.

I enjoyed when he was shifting back and forth to fuck with the pitchers on 2nd, but I was also reminded in doing so of something I had read about the play in the Negro Leagues being faster and less staid than the major leagues - and that to this day you will still hear about black players described as being “showboating” or other coded phrases because there is still a lot of thinking that bat flipping, celebrating and fun isn’t playing the game the white way.

It is enraging when you are watching the Phillies manager loudly and clearly repeatedly hurling racial slurs at Robinson, and the announcer was brushing it off as “chirping.”

I thought about how tough he was to live all that, and the bat smashing scene in the dugout is great because it brings the person to life, and for a modern audience it is just underlining how hard it must have been to live with all that hate just for existing and playing the game. It was showing the pain behind the icon, what being the first meant. It’s a decent film, I liked Boseman very much. I would have liked to have seen more of his reactions to all the hate he received, because as tough as he was, it seemed pretty fucking unbearable.

Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Saturday, 6 May 2023 23:22 (seven months ago) link

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