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Got looking at the all time HR list checking out the actives in the list.

Pujols is definitely going to keep playing with that much cash on the table, he is 27 shy of Willie Mays for 5th all time. I don't know if he will catch him, he has been toast for good while now.

With Adrian Beltre retiring, Miggy Cabrera is next to potentially get to 500 HRs. Cabrera will be 36 next year and 35 shy of 500. Got to wonder how healthy he will stay going forward, he's at that age where he could just continue to fall apart too.

The next active player on the list's totals I thought were really interesting. Nelson Cruz will be 38 next year and he is at 360 HRs with all but 22 from age 28. Good chemicals or hard work or not, the guy has hit some homers in Seattle and that place is a cavern.

earlnash, Sunday, 2 December 2018 01:55 (five years ago) link

After Cabrera, Encarnacion might get to 500 (380 at 35--looking doubtful, but he's got two years on Cruz and 20 more HR), and then you have to go down the list to Stanton (305 at 28--2023?) and Trout (240 at 26--2025?).

clemenza, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

Coinciding with the complete lack of interest in pitcher wins anymore, I think I'm ready to agree with the old saw--for a long time simply not true--that you may not see another unless the game fundamentally changes. I thought Kershaw was a good bet three or four years ago, but with 153 at 30 and very dicey health, looks unlikely. The other best pitchers in the game have either zero chance--Kluber (32, 96)--or close to zero: Verlander has 204 at 35, Scherzer 159 at 33, Sale 103 at 29. They'd each have to average around 20 a year until 40.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 December 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

("another 300-game winner," as I'm sure you figured out)

clemenza, Sunday, 2 December 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

A record that has amazingly stood up is Reggie's 2,597 strikeouts. With guys routinely striking out 200+ times a year, that's only about 12-13 years of league-leading performance. Thome almost broke it (ended up 50 short); the third-place guy, Dunn, was out of the league at 34, otherwise he would have (200 short). So you have to be good enough that the strikeouts don't lose you your job; Thome was, Dunn wasn't. Stanton looks like a good bet to finally break it. He's got 1,351 at age 28, and he averages about 180-190 for a full season. If he remains healthy, that's about seven more seasons.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 December 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

Actually, Justin Upton may get there first.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 December 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

As noted above, Cabrera may get to 500 HR this year (35 shy), but he'll probably need two seasons; he may get to 3,000 hits next year (324 shy), but he'll probably need three for that.

clemenza, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

I was thinking that if you were to give Stanton 90 HR for 2019/20 (instead of the 7 he actually hit), he'd end his age-31 season with ~440 HR, and would have at least an outside shot at catching Bonds.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link

Actually, that's way too many, unless you make COVID disappear too--forgot they only played 60 games last year.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Truthfully, not the most exciting list...Cabrera's 3,000th will make him the seventh 500/3,000 guy. Last five seasons: .264/.335/.401, 99 OPS+, -1.1 WAR.

clemenza, Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Posnanski posted about Dusty Baker today:

There has been shockingly little talk about this, but sometime in the next couple of weeks — in this 75th anniversary season of Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier — Dusty Baker is going to win his 2,000th game as a big-league manager.

He'll be the 12th manager to do so. However much you think that's worth, much rarer than 3,000 hits (Cabrera will be #33) or 500 HR (Cabrera was #28). Almost as rare as 3,000 hits/500 HR--Cabrera will be the seventh.

clemenza, Friday, 22 April 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

If he's sitting on 1,999 wins, I hope Dusty doesn't remove himself from the game.

clemenza, Friday, 22 April 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

ayoooo :)

it would pretty amazing to get ejected in that scenario, though. and then immediately fired

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 April 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

Which reminds me: James thinks that Maddon's IBB the other day will probably cost him his job before the year's out.

It's beyond the pail--and unless the Angels rally to have a good season, it WILL cost him his job. There are things you just can't do, lines you just can't cross. That's just f'ing stupid. You just can't do stuff THAT stupid and keep your job

("The pail," yes--he never corrects typos in questions or answers.)

clemenza, Friday, 22 April 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

typos and corrections, those are things you just can't do, lines you just can't cross.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 22 April 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

Man, I'd love to send that in to him, but he'd probably kick me off the site for good.

clemenza, Friday, 22 April 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

What I found interesting about James's comment, by the way, wasn't the IBB itself--don't really have any opinion on that--but the tactical idea that ownership would have something they keep in reserve in case they want to use it later.

clemenza, Friday, 22 April 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

that IBB was indeed terrible, and i don't really like maddon, but jeez ownership doesn't need ~reasons~

just ask rick renteria, whom the cubs fired after one season because maddon was available

mookieproof, Friday, 22 April 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

tigers postponed tonight, doubleheader tomorrow. if miggy doesn't do it tomorrow it is boone's farm's fault

Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 April 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

(xpost) I know what you're saying, but it's probably harder (from a public-relations standpoint), at least-short term, to fire a sainted manager like Maddon than Renteria.

clemenza, Saturday, 23 April 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

That Dusty Baker column quotes extensively from the Al Campanis Nightline interview. God...beyond the pail, to coin a phrase. To get fired as quickly as he did in 1987 (within 48 hours) took some doing, and he was up to it. That he was who he was--Jackie Robinson's DP partner in Montreal, the scout who signed Roberto Clemente--makes it all that much sadder.

clemenza, Saturday, 23 April 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

I’ve lost track who we’re talking about here.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 April 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

Kershaw can overtake Don Sutton today as the Dodgers' leader in career strikeouts.

Teams you probably can't guess: Rockies, Brewers, Marlins. (And the Rangers have a weird one.)

clemenza, Sunday, 24 April 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

2,000 for Dusty Baker.

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

San Diego Padres third baseman Manny Machado tallied his 1,500th hit with a first-inning RBI single at Wrigley Field on Wednesday. At 29 years old, Machado becomes the 17th player in MLB history with 1,500 hits and 250 or more home runs before turning 30 years old.

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

now i have to know the worst player out of the other 16 who reached 1500/250 before 30

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link

Are team wins a counting stat? Yes, they are!

With the win, the Yankees are just the sixth team since 1947 to win 46 of their first 62 games. They join the 2001 Mariners (49-13), the 1998 Yankees (47-15), '84 Tigers (46-16), '55 Dodgers (46-16) and the '53 Yankees (46-16) -- each of those teams except Seattle won the World Series.


clemenza, Thursday, 16 June 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Freddie Freeman and 3,000 hits:

clemenza, Monday, 18 September 2023 21:36 (two months ago) link

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