shohei ohtani alert

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Homered in three straight games, has an OPS of 1.310 and a FIP of 3.65.

Is he Babe Ruth? Or better, cause Ruth couldn't throw 95?

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:48 (four years ago) link

nvm just saw the other thread, y'all can lock this if you like

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:49 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Source: #Angels cautiously optimistic Shohei Ohtani will play again this season — at least as a hitter and possibly in both roles. @MLB @MLBNetwork

— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) June 11, 2018

Scioscia said the Angels’ medical staff is “very optimistic” about Shohei Ohtani’s prognosis. Still two to three weeks from seeing whether PRP injection took hold. Ohtani is taking one-armed swings in batting cage.

— Bill Shaikin (@BillShaikin) June 18, 2018

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/shohei-ohtani-and-the-implications/

TS: ohtani batting with one arm vs pujols

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:27 (four years ago) link

dammit, lock thread would be nice, esp as this is the one with the spelling that aligns with the way sportswriters here spell his name

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:28 (four years ago) link

I looked up the 2 other Japanese->MLB players with "大" as the first kanji in their family name and they were split on the romanization of O- vs. Oh-:

大家友和 - Tomokazu Ohka
大塚晶則 - Akinori Otsuka

I think I wrote in the other thread, we don't romanize the characters of Osaka city as "Ohsaka".

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:21 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Shohei Ohtani’s season is over. He’s having knee surgery. Didn’t see that one coming. Justin Upton was the one who had an MRI on his knee. #Angels https://t.co/VTdRtIm6g5

— Jeff Fletcher (@JeffFletcherOCR) September 12, 2019

na (NA), Thursday, 12 September 2019 20:51 (two years ago) link

i have that same condition, never bothered me

johnny crunch, Thursday, 12 September 2019 21:44 (two years ago) link

how's your fastball?

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 13 September 2019 00:57 (two years ago) link

i threw on one of those in-stadium radar gun setups a few yrs ago & my shoulder is sore just thinking abt it

johnny crunch, Friday, 13 September 2019 01:50 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

in the hulkiest shape of his life

Shohei Ohtani said he swam and shot some hoops this offseason as part of his training. pic.twitter.com/qfdID6CKzd

— Rhett Bollinger (@RhettBollinger) February 19, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 23 February 2020 18:15 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

in case u didnt know, on mound vs Oakland now

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:30 (one year ago) link

begins 1st with a single then 3 walks

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:36 (one year ago) link

Will he get an out?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:44 (one year ago) link

He would not.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:48 (one year ago) link

ugh, 5 ER

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:53 (one year ago) link

the dreaded infinite (or is it undefined?) ERA

mookieproof, Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:56 (one year ago) link

fortunately there is Trout ... 3-run bomb on a 3-0 count

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 21:22 (one year ago) link

Struck out Springer leading off, so he has an ERA now.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:15 (one year ago) link

1-2-3 first! It's 45.00.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:17 (one year ago) link

2nd inning exit :/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:59 (one year ago) link

dip in velocity may have prompted hook

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 August 2020 21:13 (one year ago) link

damn

k3vin k., Sunday, 2 August 2020 21:27 (one year ago) link

42-pitch second inning -> shower -> MRI

Andy K, Monday, 3 August 2020 02:28 (one year ago) link

strained something pronator, no more pitching this year

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:18 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

2-2, BB
4IP 1ER 2BB 5K

, Sunday, 21 March 2021 21:59 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Something more than a trivial occurrence:

twitter.com/Angels/status/1386713631207792642

clemenza, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:27 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

94 at eye-level

"Oh my goodness. OH MY goodness. Shohei Ohtani..." #WeBelieve pic.twitter.com/FNAcTDiXO3

— Justin Groc (@jgroc) May 18, 2021

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:48 (one year ago) link

Don’t think you’re meant to be able to do that

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:52 (one year ago) link

god I would fuckin hate pitching to that guy

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:58 (one year ago) link

whoa

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 May 2021 04:16 (one year ago) link

So sad to think he won't make the post-season.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 May 2021 00:45 (one year ago) link

his velo is way way down tonight

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 May 2021 00:48 (one year ago) link

I'm reading 89 mph fastballs?

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 May 2021 00:52 (one year ago) link

he's throwing up to 95 now in the 4th

, Thursday, 20 May 2021 01:12 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

2 HRs tonight (Angels are down by 5)

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 01:02 (eleven months ago) link

a pittsburgher i follow drove to nyc specifically to see ohtani tonight and lol

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:01 (eleven months ago) link

2 more HRs tonight

frogbs, Saturday, 3 July 2021 03:48 (eleven months ago) link

I would never in a million years bet on Ohtani having the season he’s having right now.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:42 (eleven months ago) link

Folks need to stop comparing Shohei Ohtani to Babe Ruth

Shohei Ohtani is the first Shohei Ohtani

Nobody’s ever done what he’s done in a half season, and it’s somehow still not getting enough media coverage https://t.co/cGY2CzpeUn

— joon 이준엽 (@joonlee) July 8, 2021

Andy K, Thursday, 8 July 2021 00:41 (eleven months ago) link

I agree that there aren't enough superlatives to describe what he's doing.

However, when it comes to Ohtani, there can never be enough comparisons to Babe Ruth. Babe f'n Ruth!!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 8 July 2021 08:22 (eleven months ago) link

The need for the angels to make the playoffs only grows more and more urgent

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 8 July 2021 15:51 (eleven months ago) link

when is he a free agent? he will be an LA dodger or a boston red sock or a new york motherfucker in a couple years

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 July 2021 16:01 (eleven months ago) link

yea he seems like one of those players who could singlehandedly rescue the sport but having him play on the West Coast on a team that's 4th in their division sucks. crazy if the Angels miss the playoffs yet again despite having 2 generational talents on their team

frogbs, Thursday, 8 July 2021 16:49 (eleven months ago) link

it's a team sport

which consists 95% of moments of individual skill

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 8 July 2021 16:54 (eleven months ago) link

this is one of the hardest hit balls I've ever seen

Ohtani to the MOON. 😳 pic.twitter.com/BeZ3Ek9gF6

— MLB (@MLB) July 10, 2021

frogbs, Saturday, 10 July 2021 03:14 (eleven months ago) link

fucking absurd man

k3vin k., Saturday, 10 July 2021 03:22 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know about you but I cannot see the ball post-impact with Ohtani's bat. I think he hit it so hard it disintegrated into fucking quarks.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 10 July 2021 03:26 (eleven months ago) link

you can just briefly see it shoot straight up, it kind of looks like the 600-foot pop up from Major League

frogbs, Saturday, 10 July 2021 03:29 (eleven months ago) link

463 feet

k3vin k., Saturday, 10 July 2021 03:31 (eleven months ago) link

It feels like he should be more talked about.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 02:20 (eleven months ago) link

40 HR, 2.79 ERA

Angels are still .500 though

frogbs, Thursday, 19 August 2021 04:08 (ten months ago) link

that’s fucking crazy

this season is historic

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 August 2021 09:06 (ten months ago) link

Orange County doesn’t deserve this dude

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 19 August 2021 12:46 (ten months ago) link

i honestly would never have expected him to have a season like this. just did not think this was possible.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:14 (ten months ago) link

well it's never been done before!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:18 (ten months ago) link

What a joy this guy is

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:54 (ten months ago) link

he's on pace to make the top 10 single season WAR list, which is basically all guys like Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds, plus those insane Yaz & Hornsby seasons

frogbs, Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:58 (ten months ago) link

there are a bunch of guys having monster seasons and he’s 2 wins ahead of them

k3vin k., Thursday, 19 August 2021 16:49 (ten months ago) link

even though ppl, like, intuitively understand this, it's still an under discussed story that the angels have had one of the greatest baseball players in 100+ years on their team for a decade, and now have an international superstar putting up one of the greatest seasons in 100+ years... and still LITERALLY CANNOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS MORE THAN ONE TIME!!! you can make a very reasonable argument that this fact alone has contributed to baseball's decline as a national interest and cultural phenomenon. you could also make a very reasonable argument that it's in the best interest of baseball to forcibly remove arte moreno as owner and find someone who could maybe run a franchise in LA w/ 2 of the best players in baseball and get them into the playoffs, like, one time before the world implodes. it's not asking for much!

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 August 2021 17:08 (ten months ago) link

its a uniquely frustrating scenario...idk if the Angels ownership/management just sucks but I can't really point to a single thing they've done over the last decade that's worked, outside of maybe the trade for Andrelton Simmons. they also happened to grab those two players during the years where they knew Pujols was gonna be an albatross - they signed him knowing full well that they were likely going to be punting the last 4-5 years. they've also had a lot of bad luck - Trout's hurt, Rendon's hurt, they just cannot seem to develop a decent pitcher who doesn't overdose on fentanyl. its a shitty situation and I agree its bad for the game.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 August 2021 17:58 (ten months ago) link

they give big free agent contracts to older and/or injury prone players and rarely have homegrown talent, it's a really bad mix that comes from the top down. josh hamilton contract was a disaster, rendon contract isn't looking much better. they haven't had a good pitcher since like jered weaver. it's just a poorly run franchise.

they actually have some younger talent now... jo adell has looked good recently, brandon marsh is a top 50 prospect tho he flopped after being called up. reid detmers is finally a pitching prospect they have. if they had a healthy trout, rendon, ohtani, plus a good season from adell, and made some additions, found some pitchers.... it's still so many ifs. and trout is at the point now where he's prob more of a 130-140 game player -- at best -- than a 160 or 180 game player. the fact that they're 5.5 games worse than the mariners this year is insane.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:36 (ten months ago) link

it’s a team sport

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:25 (ten months ago) link

i wonder if any other team's management would have done anything differently about the "pujols problem", especially the 2017-now version of the problem. i guess it's easier said than done to bench him, because he truly always believes he's about to turn the corner and is vocal about it. i guess they just couldn't face the spectacle of releasing him years early and eating the cost?

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:36 (ten months ago) link

i mean, i think the marlins would have done something drastic for some reason. and the padres. although they haven't exactly done anything about their "eric hosmer problem"

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:37 (ten months ago) link

how many other teams would have even signed a stupid contract like that? I mean I guess I'll cut them some slack because 2009-2012 was like the prime era for teams giving fat contracts to fat players, despite the fact that IT HAS LITERALLY NEVER WORKED OUT A SINGLE TIME. to his credit Pujols has not been downright awful since that 2017 season but I still can't believe they didn't find some way to engineer a trade to some bad team that needs to get fans in the door. even if they had to eat like $80 mil

frogbs, Thursday, 19 August 2021 20:05 (ten months ago) link

how many other teams would have even signed a stupid contract like that?

*stares in chris davis*

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 19 August 2021 20:43 (ten months ago) link

I think there are possible universes where the Chris Davis deal isn't awful, the Pujols one was just so doomed from the start. The only way it makes sense is if the Angels were a slugger away from being a championship team which they definitely were not

one that comes to mind that is definitely worse is Ryan Howard, sure it's a lot less money but also possibly the dumbest, most guaranteed-to-fail contract I've ever seen in pro sports. and it somehow turned out even worse than anyone could've imagined

frogbs, Thursday, 19 August 2021 21:01 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, definitely universes where the Davis deal wasn't as bad as it was, not sure there are universes where it was good, I guess maybe if the Orioles don't bring in Ubaldo in the 2016 WC game and win a pennant or WC with Davis contributing before the real decline kicks in?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 19 August 2021 21:11 (ten months ago) link

when the angels signed pujols he was turning 32 and had hit .328/.420/.617 over 11 seasons

when the orioles extended davis he was turning 30 and had hit .255/.330/.506 over eight seasons

the davis contract only went through his age-36 season, so that's a huge plus. but also he just wasn't that good -- and the orioles had seen how it might go in 2014 when he hit .196/.300/.404. i mean both contracts are terrible, but if you're gonna dream on a guy beating the aging curve you might as well go with the one who was the greatest hitter of his generation

mookieproof, Friday, 20 August 2021 02:17 (ten months ago) link

yeah, davis was very much a limited skill, adam dunn* kind of player

*and wasn't nearly as consistent as adam dunn, it turns out

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Friday, 20 August 2021 02:31 (ten months ago) link

holy cow I had no idea Davis's OBP was only .330, yeah that contract might be worse in retrospect

i mean both contracts are terrible, but if you're gonna dream on a guy beating the aging curve you might as well go with the one who was the greatest hitter of his generation

true but I still think it was fairly unlikely that Davis would be downright unplayable for 5 years of that deal, for Pujols it feels like that was one of the most likely outcomes. I can't argue it's one of the worst contracts ever because there have been so many bad ones but none of them involve paying a guy $24 million when he's 42

frogbs, Friday, 20 August 2021 16:44 (ten months ago) link

shit he just got hit in the right hand by a pitch

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 August 2021 01:24 (nine months ago) link

does not look great

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 August 2021 01:25 (nine months ago) link

Shohei Ohtani is the first American League pitcher to be intentionally walked since Jim Katt in 1970

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 September 2021 06:59 (nine months ago) link

homer and two walks yesterday, but got shelled on the mound

k3vin k., Saturday, 11 September 2021 14:46 (nine months ago) link

somehow i always miss his pitching days. when he's out of the game as a pitcher, does he switch to DH, keeping his spot in the batting order and taking whoever replaced pujols out of the lineup, i guess? or do they just take him out of the game completely at that point?

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 September 2021 15:56 (nine months ago) link

they don't get a DH

although it *kind* of seems like you should be able to use the DH on a non-pitcher if you want? (you cannot, by rule)

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 September 2021 16:00 (nine months ago) link

Guess who started Ohtani in the fantasy playoffs yesterday!! :((

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 11 September 2021 18:21 (nine months ago) link

maddon has several times shifted ohtani to the outfield when he's done pitching, but not last night

, Saturday, 11 September 2021 21:11 (nine months ago) link

0-5 tonight…the guy could really use some time off

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 September 2021 03:42 (nine months ago) link

six months pass...

Ohtani giving CPR to his dead bat pic.twitter.com/aFoZbMw4sG

— Every Shohei Ohtani Highlight (@ohtanimoments) April 12, 2022

Andy K, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 15:57 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

while looking up bobby witt jr's sprint and home to first speeds to see how how fast he is (A: very fast), i unexpectedly found OHTANI at the top of the 2022 leaderboard for fastest from home to first! 4.06 seconds. i was shocked, because his sprint speed (27.6 ft/s this year, 28.8 last year)is more 70th percentile. and not a fluke, either - in 2021 ohtani ranked 5th for home to first, with 4.05 seconds.

impressive - he must kick up into his highest gear much more quickly than the competition

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 2 May 2022 17:45 (one month ago) link

When he retires, if I'm still alive--50/50?--I'll think "I really didn't appreciate that guy while he was playing." Because honestly, I get a little tired of reading about his every waking movement.

He pitched great today: 7 shutout innings, 6 H/0 BB/11 K. MLB.com (not at all atypical of the way they cover him): "Stop us if you've heard this one: Shohei Ohtani did something nobody has since the Great Bambino."

What he did: "Hitting third and making his first start on the mound at Fenway Park, Ohtani became the first starting pitcher to bat in one of the top four spots in a game at the historic ballpark since Babe Ruth did so on Sept. 20, 1919."

Translation, if you feel his two-way abilities have already been duly recognized (and rewarded): "He played."

clemenza, Friday, 6 May 2022 00:33 (one month ago) link

Feel like there needs to be a thread “Clemenza vs MLB.com headlines”

Michael F Gill, Friday, 6 May 2022 02:16 (one month ago) link

what about my "fastest from home to first base" tidbit, though? now THAT's what i'm talking about

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 May 2022 04:39 (one month ago) link

First career grand slam tonight. And another HR too

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 04:25 (one month ago) link

all 100 of shohei ohtani’s home runs but it speeds up by 10% after each home run pic.twitter.com/l1hYPwy6eV

— Cut4 (@Cut4) May 15, 2022

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 May 2022 17:44 (one month ago) link

A work of art

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 15 May 2022 19:05 (one month ago) link

Feel like there needs to be a thread “Clemenza vs MLB.com headlines”
― Michael F Gill

Lead story right now on mlb.com, the day after the Jays beat Ohtani with five runs in six innings:

Force strong with this one

Shohei Ohtani's latest power: He doesn't need to tag you. He sends you to the dugout with his mind.

clemenza, Friday, 27 May 2022 21:37 (one month ago) link

Ha!

To be fair, he still actually didn’t look bad in that start.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 28 May 2022 03:38 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

8 RBIs on Tuesday, then on Wednesday 8 shutout innings and 13 Ks

going to go out on a limb and say nothing like that's ever been done before

Angels only won one of those games lol

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2022 13:26 (five days ago) link

damn, 94 game score on that last start, too.

pretttty good

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:10 (five days ago) link

going to go out on a limb and say nothing like that's ever been done before

if anyone else, it was probably Ruth, and i don't think they struck out that many people back then

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:10 (five days ago) link

Absolutely unreal

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:15 (five days ago) link

A night after homering twice and setting a career-high with eight RBIs at the plate, Ohtani set another career high with 13 strikeouts over eight scoreless innings to help lift the Angels to a 5-0 win over the Royals on Wednesday night at Angel Stadium. Unsurprisingly, Ohtani, who retired 23 of the last 24 batters he faced, became the first player in AL/NL history to have at least eight RBIs in a game and strike out at least 10 batters the next day.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:33 (five days ago) link

Never had an 8-RBI game:
 
Babe Ruth
Henry Aaron
Barry Bonds
Albert Pujols
 
Never had a 13-K game:
 
Lefty Grove
Catfish Hunter
Jack Morris
Tom Glavine
 
Ohtani did both - in consecutive days.
 
🦄

— Paul Hembekides (@PaulHembo) June 23, 2022

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:18 (five days ago) link

i am...weird not impressed at all by that list of pitchers, but for hitters, that's eye-opening.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:19 (five days ago) link

I mean so much of that is luck - how often is a 3-4 line with 2 HRs gonna result in 8 RBIs?

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:48 (five days ago) link

exactly shohei ohtani amount of the time

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:49 (five days ago) link

xp not to mention in a loss . . . to the royals

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 June 2022 20:51 (five days ago) link


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