The Interesting 2018 New York Mets (Who Will Probably Fall Into a Pile of Scorpions Again)

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per Grant Brisbee

The Mets fell into a pile of scorpions last year, and there were no survivors, but you can understand why they wanted to build a lineup with a chance to be competent. The once-mighty Mets’ staff had just one healthy starter, and he was also the only one with an ERA under 4.50. They had five different pitchers who made more than 10 starts with an ERA over 5.19, and most of them were expected to be assets, not liabilities.

Even if you assume that the gremlins in Matt Harvey’s arm will never be sated, it’s easy to look at a rotation with some combination of Jacob deGrom, Noah Syndergaard, Steven Matz, Seth Lugo, Zack Wheeler, Robert Gsellman, and Harvey and think that at least four out of the six have a shot to help their team win in 2018. It’s not overly optimistic to hope for a rotation that can thrive with an average offense. The trick this offseason, then, was to build that average offense.

Meet the Mets, who will probably fall into a pile of scorpions again, but at least they seized on the slow offseason. They brought the market down to their payroll and made off with some good players. Made off. They made off with some good players....

They’re looking at an oddly shaped window and taking advantage of this shady offseason. We’ll see if the Twins follow through with their plans, or if the Nationals jump into the scrum. For now, though, the Mets are just about the only baseball team making free agency work for them. It’s what they needed to do.

If the plan works or not is kind of beside the point.

I don’t even know why the Mets keep that scorpion pile so close to Citi Field in the first place.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Travis Sawchik also approves

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Matt den Dekker returns w/ a minor-league deal :o

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:44 (one year ago) Permalink

two-year deal for all-star (!) lefty jason vargas

mookieproof, Friday, 16 February 2018 15:57 (one year ago) Permalink

I spent much of last summer listening to/reading Jeff Sullivan's opinion that Vargas' season was an illusion. So, great!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Projects about the same as Matt Harvey.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 16 February 2018 21:07 (one year ago) Permalink

wish that were bonding by actually hanging trump jr, instead went shark fishing w him

johnny crunch, Saturday, 17 February 2018 04:32 (one year ago) Permalink

While Trump Jr. was kicking back and catching sharks Friday, the President and Melania Trump were in the same state at a Broward County hospital visiting victims of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting that left 17 people dead.

you go, daily news

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 February 2018 04:39 (one year ago) Permalink

I liked the Mets getting Adrian Gonzales for not much money. I've always thought he was a pretty good all around hitter and I think if his back will hold up, I'd think he might have another productive year in him.
With having Todd Frazier and Michael Conforto, they should have options to spell him 1-2 days a week and play some lineup match up. I got to figure Jay Bruce is going to also see more games at first as his career goes on too.

earlnash, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Noting the Tebow experiment has “evolved” into something greater, general manger Sandy Alderson on Sunday said, “I think he will play in the major leagues.”

johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 February 2018 22:20 (one year ago) Permalink

season over

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 February 2018 08:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Here are Noah Syndergaard's velocities in a perfect first inning:

100 mph
100 mph
100 mph
100 mph
90 mph
100 mph
97 mph
91 mph
101 mph
101 mph
92 mph

It's his first outing of the year.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) February 26, 2018

he seems to be ready to go

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:27 (one year ago) Permalink

He needs to ratchet that shit back a little, he's made whatever point he thought he needed to.

WilliamC, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Not that I'm a Mets fan, but my wife loves his hair and would hate anything to happen to him.

WilliamC, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:30 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm certain Callaway will deal with Noah accordingly.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:33 (one year ago) Permalink

This year will likely be a merry go round of starting pitchers going back and forth from AAA to the #5 starter spot. You've got Lugo, Matz, Wheeler, and Gsellman, who have all seemed worthy at some time, but have never put it together consistently. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:12 (one year ago) Permalink

And Tebow getting 300 PA

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 04:38 (one year ago) Permalink

tsk tsk, Stankee fans back to their old ways

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 07:24 (one year ago) Permalink

MFG, in the modern age of pitcher injury/usage, that describes most rotations over the course of the season (at best, having 7+ guys make 10 or more starts).

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 07:27 (one year ago) Permalink

hate deGrom cutting his hair; why eliminate a distraction to the hitter?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 March 2018 16:25 (one year ago) Permalink

1. Reyes, J., 2B
2. Bruce, J., RF
3. Gonzalez, A., 1B
4. Tebow, T., DH

a batting champ, two all-stars and a guy who got cut by the eagles

mookieproof, Friday, 2 March 2018 18:11 (one year ago) Permalink

against max scherzer, no less

mookieproof, Friday, 2 March 2018 18:12 (one year ago) Permalink

but it's March 2 in Florida, and there are NAGGING INJURIES

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:13 (one year ago) Permalink

u guys are gonna Bonilla me with TT til he's cut, right?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:13 (one year ago) Permalink

of course

btw later this summer the potomac nationals will be giving away bobbleheads of bobby bo receiving a $1.19m check and i am damn well gonna get one

mookieproof, Friday, 2 March 2018 18:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Rusty Staub is in failing health:

— Mike Puma (@NYPost_Mets) March 2, 2018

mookieproof, Friday, 2 March 2018 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Le Grande Orange!

earlnash, Saturday, 3 March 2018 02:01 (one year ago) Permalink

could use a sturdier table for these pressers Mike

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:52 (one year ago) Permalink

that includes minor league pitchers as well.

...Including De Leon (who hasn’t actually undergone the procedure yet), the Rays’ total of 10 surgeries in that span is the majors’ lowest, less than one-third that of the MLB-leading Mets — who, to be fair, haven’t had a pitcher above A-ball suffer that fate since 2015. Even so, using the start of 2016 as a cutoff, the Mets organization’s six TJs, though all from the low minors, place them third among the 30 teams, behind the Giants’ eight and the Reds’ seven. No other team has more than three, which is where the Rays will sit once De Leon goes under the knife.

and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Saturday, 10 March 2018 17:48 (one year ago) Permalink

that is crazy

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 10 March 2018 17:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Yoenis Cespedes says his right wrist injury occurred while swinging in last Tuesday's game, one week ago. He's played three times since then, but underwent x-rays this morning. The Mets cut off his interview after 90 seconds so there's no additional info right now.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) March 13, 2018

mets cannot help but mets

also david wright has died again

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah the news on Wright is upsetting. 8 more weeks of non baseball activity.

I think Cespedes will be fine? Also Nimmo has been really good this spring, may be hard to send him back down to AAA when Conforto is back. If 1B is not working out, could shift Bruce over there.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:09 (one year ago) Permalink

no one expects a Wright comeback, do they

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 00:51 (one year ago) Permalink

yea no way

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 00:59 (one year ago) Permalink

I kind of expect one more September pinch hit appearance, at least for show/for the fans.

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:09 (one year ago) Permalink

tebow has been dispatched to the back fields after going 1-for-18 with 11 strikeouts

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:30 (one year ago) Permalink

◄ John 1:18 ►

No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

omar little, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 02:33 (one year ago) Permalink

I agree user @ jonh 1:18 it’s time for David to stop

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 04:34 (one year ago) Permalink

If they put Montero on waivers, would anyone else want him? Same with Robles. Kind of feel the Mets should risk it, it seems like every other pitcher in the running has been better/more auspicious than them this spring.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 15 March 2018 17:51 (one year ago) Permalink

wouldn't really call that a 'risk'. he's 27 and terrible and there's nothing to be gained by wasting a 25-man roster spot on him in the hopes that he someday figures it out

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2018 18:01 (one year ago) Permalink

orioles are getting degrominated

mookieproof, Friday, 16 March 2018 18:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Jason Vargas has a fracture in his glove hand after taking a comebacker. Rub dirt on it.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 March 2018 13:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Vargas on DL could mean first-ever rotation turn for the Golden Five

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 March 2018 15:35 (one year ago) Permalink

we're used to it

from my i.v. chair, i heard Ed Coleman and whoever the noontime WFAN idiot is talking about the necessity of "locking deGrom up" -- beginning with, as mook pointed out, his age 33 season. The mainstream sports media has no clue either.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

i don't know that this *means* anything, but at present the 2018 mets are offensively the worst-performing team ever, relative to overall performance, at home

mookieproof, Friday, 31 August 2018 20:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

they sure have sucked at home

btw WFAN midday idiot also said their big booboo last winter was not signing Eric Hosmer

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 August 2018 21:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

The Mets have a 23-year-old potential star first baseman. They don’t want to lose a season of control in a year where they’re going to lose the majority of their games. The Blue Jays have arguably received less backlash for being thrifty with Guerrero than the Mets have with Alonso, and there’s no doubt at all that Guerrero is the better player, now and in the future.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

the big difference is that alonso is four years older than vlad. when they do finally call him up next april 15, he'll be 24 and under team control until he's 31. we know players peak around 28, so he, like degrom, stands to lose big money by having free agency delayed into his 30s.

the vlad thing also sucks, but assuming the jays don't just leave him in the minors until they think they have a competitive team -- and it could be a while -- he'll still hit free agency at 27.

i don't know how much the union cares about this -- they're still minor leaguers, so they're not *in* the union -- but this is a serious screwing of its future members and yet another sign that the CBA is not working for the players

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 20:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

The Mets just announced that Jay Horwitz -- their longtime PR guy who could write a hell of a tell-all if he wanted to -- will "take on a new role with" the team. They're announcing more tomorrow at 2 p.m.

— Tim Healey (@timbhealey) September 11, 2018

new general manager obvs

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

via Amazin' Avenue:

"As the Mets ramp up their search for their next GM, reports say the team has asked Terry Collins to assume a larger role in the front office. Right now, people around the team point to Blue Jays' Mark Shapiro as the best fit to lead the Mets."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

I don’t think it’s an accident that Mark Shapiro — a man who has shown that he is an expert at not spending money on baseball players while not catching much hell for it — is a top candidate for the Mets GM position. Indeed, I can think of no one more appropriate for the job.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:41 (nine months ago) Permalink

Heard a clip of Jay Horwitz talking about the time the players bought him a stripper...

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

David Wright will retire after this season.

David Wright will play again in the Major Leagues.

The Mets will activate Wright on Sept. 25. He will start at third base on Sept. 29.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) September 13, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:12 (nine months ago) Permalink

David Wright is tearing up at his press conference.

"It's truly been an honor to take the field with you, and serve as your captain," Wright said to his teammates.

"To the fans, words can't address my gratitude."

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) September 13, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:13 (nine months ago) Permalink


maura, Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

i'm glad he'll at least get to make one more appearance. i think everyone was really rooting for him to make it back. he seems to have tried his damndest

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:26 (nine months ago) Permalink

@keithhernandez doing radio play by play in @MetsBooth with Howie and @WayneRandazzo is both wonderful and hilarious!
Keith: Here's the payoff pitch.
Howie: at 1-2?
Keith: Hopefully

— Alan Yudman (@AlanYudman) September 13, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

Going to the game today at Fenway. There are tons of Mets fans everywhere. Too bad we drew Oswalt pitching instead of anyone else, but I’m hopeful it won’t be a blowout. They haven’t played in Boston since 2009.

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 15 September 2018 18:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

no, Friday night was the blowout

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 September 2018 23:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

The parade of 7line Mets fans en route to Fenway probably stopped traffic for a good 10-15 minutes. Most people in their cars took it well, actually.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 16 September 2018 01:54 (nine months ago) Permalink

bye Hannity

The Mets make it official: they're moving their radio broadcasts from WOR 710 to WCBS 880 beginning next season, in a deal that runs through 2025.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) September 17, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 September 2018 19:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

Callaway says that it’s possible the #Mets will shutdown Wheeler for the rest of the year. Team will meet with him tomorrow to make a decision.

— Steve Gelbs (@SteveGelbs) September 18, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

need matz in the lineup every day i guess

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 01:13 (eight months ago) Permalink


Wilmer Flores has been diagnosed with early onset arthritis in both knees. He is done for the season.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) September 20, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

i am enjoying the jeff mcneil experience

mookieproof, Monday, 24 September 2018 21:15 (eight months ago) Permalink

Me too, might even get some rookie of the year votes with that .340/.394/.495 in 221 plate appearances so far. No need to look for a 2019 2B.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 00:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

Official: The Mets have activated David Wright from the disabled list.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) September 25, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 18:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

Out of respect to Braves fighting for home field , Mets don’t want to use him in a meaningful game

— Andy Martino (@martinonyc) September 25, 2018

mookieproof, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 20:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

so adjusting expectations to Gehrig 1939

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 23:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

Thor getting that treatment normally reserved for DeGrom.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 02:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

Jacob deGrom has retired 11 in a row. He has five strikeouts through five shutout innings. His Major League-leading ERA is 1.72.

Mets 0, Braves 0, mid-fifth.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) September 27, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2018 00:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

also it's going to rain like hell in 40 mins or so

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2018 00:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

3-0 lead, tenth win graspable

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2018 01:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

2) This David Wright scouting report from before the 2004 season will always be one of the best I have ever written.

— JJ Cooper (@jjcoop36) September 28, 2018

mookieproof, Friday, 28 September 2018 20:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

scorpion postmortem

Noah Syndergaard throws a four-hitter in Game 162. The Mets won consecutive 1-0 games over the Marlins to end things.

They went 31-20 over their last 51 games -- a bandage over a bullet hole, perhaps, but enough for the Mets to enter the offseason with optimism.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) September 30, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2018 22:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

Noah Syndergaard is heading to Ireland, where he will guest star in an episode of the @HISTORY drama "Vikings." Syndergaard will play the character Thorbjorn, a Viking warrior who is loyal to Ivar the Boneless.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) October 3, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 16:07 (eight months ago) Permalink

Mets Welcome New General Manager Nikki Haley

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

ivar the boneless would be a good addition to the mets. seems less likely to get injured, what with his having no bones and all.

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 20:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Wilpon added that Van Wagenen would have to recuse himself from certain negotiations, such as with Jacob deGrom, but he would help provide direction.

— James Wagner (@ByJamesWagner) October 30, 2018

this is ridiculous. the wilpons are such a joke

mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

CARLSBAD, Calif. -- New York Mets minor leaguer Tim Tebow has earned a promotion to Triple-A Syracuse.

The 2007 Heisman Trophy winner and former NFL quarterback hit .273 with six homers and 36 RBIs in 84 games this year for Double-A Binghamton. His season was cut short by a broken hamate bone in his right hand, which required surgery July 24.

"Timmy is not a guy you want to put restraints on," new Mets general manager Brodie Van Wagenen said Wednesday. "If he sees a block, he's going to work that much harder to go overcome whatever somebody places on him. I believe in him."

Before he was hired by the Mets last week, Van Wagenen worked at CAA Baseball and represented the 31-year-old outfielder.

Tebow hit .301 in June for Binghamton and .340 in 15 games in July.

"Given the hamate injury he had last year, his momentum was stopped," Van Wagenen said. "The goal is if he can pick that up in spring training and hopefully get off to a good start in Syracuse, then we'll evaluate it when he's ready."

Tebow signed with Mets in late 2016, played in the Arizona Fall League and in 2017 hit .226 with eight homers and 52 RBIs in 126 games at two levels of Class A. He played in seven games for the Mets in spring training this year, hitting .056 (1-for-18).

omar little, Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

I don't understand why we're posting in team threads after the season ends...

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:18 (seven months ago) Permalink

hey, it’s nice to have some positive mets news

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 November 2018 16:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

a missed opportunity : /

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 January 2019 05:53 (four months ago) Permalink

hahaha that clickhole article is so good

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 January 2019 06:02 (four months ago) Permalink

I take it that is not the actual boring-as-fuck author JK Rowling, but some mediocre "satirist"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 January 2019 16:23 (four months ago) Permalink

TBF Darryl Strawberry sounds like a JK Rowling character name

suggest boban (Will M.), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:47 (four months ago) Permalink

and would presumably be a hufflepuff

suggest boban (Will M.), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:48 (four months ago) Permalink

I always wondered why Lastings Milledge showed up in Half-Blood Prince.

omar little, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:09 (four months ago) Permalink

🚨🚨🚨 Turk Wendell AMA 🚨🚨🚨

Join us on @reddit today at 12:45 p.m.

— New York Mets (@Mets) January 25, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:45 (four months ago) Permalink

btw Art Shamsky will be at the SABR NYC meeting tomw to kick off the '69 Mets golden anniv (Ira Berkow too)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:19 (four months ago) Permalink

Baseball Prospectus writer @pizzacutter4 announces that the Mets' front office has hired him in a to-be-defined role. He joins assistant general manager Adam Guttridge, also an analytics expert, in coming from somewhere other than a rival front office.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) January 31, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:14 (four months ago) Permalink

nice hire

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:16 (four months ago) Permalink

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