or he might be Puig.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 7 July 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
puig was never this good!
― k3vin k., Friday, 7 July 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
If there are precedents for Judge, I'd be interested in who they are (no sarcasm intended). There must be somebody who came out of nowhere and tore the league up at 25.
― clemenza, Thursday, July 6, 2017 1:30 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
insert albert pujols age joke here
― ciderpress, Friday, 7 July 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
ryan braun another guy who 4-digit OPSed his rookie season though he was 23
― ciderpress, Friday, 7 July 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
insert albert pujols age joke here― ciderpress, Friday, July 7, 2017 11:13 AM (sixteen minutes ago)
― ciderpress, Friday, July 7, 2017 11:13 AM (sixteen minutes ago)
Better age 37 OPS: Albert Pujols or Craig Counsell?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 7 July 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
pretty decent chance Albert's career WAR drops below 100 this season. also damn it's extremely possible that Counsell will win that battle having hit .226 with 1 HR that season.
― nomar, Friday, 7 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
albert should retire immediately and lock in that 100 before he loses it
― ciderpress, Friday, 7 July 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
― k3vin k., Friday, July 7, 2017 1:44 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Puig's first season: .319/.391/.534, 11 sb and 19 HR, 160 wrc+ over 104 games and average defense. (4.1 war) Bellinger's first season so far: .258/.336/.613 , 5 sb and 24 HR, 142 wrc+ over 67 games and rate poorly as a 1b in defense. (2.1 war)
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 8 July 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link
#WIGS
― c (calstars), Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link
Can we please add intra-ilx tagging
― c (calstars), Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link
30
― mookieproof, Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
^^oh yeah fair, i thought we were comparing judge to puig
― k3vin k., Saturday, 8 July 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/charbjo01.shtml
― nomar, Saturday, 8 July 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link
roll me over romeo
― mookieproof, Saturday, 8 July 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link
the rookie record is mcgwire with 49 btw O_O
― k3vin k., Saturday, 8 July 2017 06:36 (six years ago) link
lol, judge at home run derby is indeed quite the show.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link
absurd
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 11 July 2017 01:26 (six years ago) link
sheesh
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
The 500-footers were amazing but the several pop-ups that just happened to go out were too.
― Cannibal Adderley (WilliamC), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
None of this is shit compared to the warning-track power Livan Hernandez just displayed in the softball game, though.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link
― clemenza, Thursday, July 6, 2017 12:30 AM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Paul Goldschmidt probably fits the bill. Judge was a Top 100 prospect though, which Goldschmidt never was.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=9218&position=1B
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
Judge vs. Newton:
http://www.si.com/mlb/2017/07/13/yankees-aaron-judge-home-run-derby-roof-nasa
(Goldschmidt's pretty good, although he was dominant every stop of the way in the minors.)
― clemenza, Friday, 14 July 2017 03:34 (six years ago) link
What age did Josh Hamilton make his MLB debut?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:41 (six years ago) link
Unique circumstances, obviously, but Hamilton debuted at 26 (and had his first big season at 27), so there's some relation there.
No one's mentioned him, but to me, the most cautionary parallel might be Ryan Howard. I know Howard's viewed as a joke now, but he came up at 24, got in half a season at 25--both partial seasons were strong--and at 26 he hit 58 HR with a slash line of .313/.425/.659. Even after adjustments (OPS+ = 167), it was a phenomenal year.
I'm not saying Aaron Judge is Ryan Howard, and there are lots of cautionary parallels for Bellinger, too. But that might be the downside (and Howard did get in five good years).
― clemenza, Friday, 14 July 2017 13:21 (six years ago) link
Last night, Aaron Judge struck out in his 36th consecutive game, breaking an ignominious single-season record previously held by pitcher Bill Stoneman in 1971. Adam Dunn fanned in 36 consecutive games between the 2011 and 2012 seasons.
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
'unstoppable'
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 August 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
we're all told not to reveal how we're voting for AL rookie of the year but I will say when I write my article you can feel free to skip it— Jeff Sullivan (@based_ball) September 25, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
49, tying mcgwire
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
resumed being unstoppable.
― nomar, Monday, 25 September 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
.301/.438/.863 in Sept
might win him points with the Strong Finish demo
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
as of yesterday both Judge and McGwire had achieved an OPS+ of 164 in their rookie year. not sure how the metrics would bear out but Judge's season looks a bit more impressive right now -- they're very, very similar but AJ has scored 122 runs to McGwire's 97, and walked 119 times to McGwire's 71. I guess there's also the 1987 thing to take into account, but of course 2017 seems like a 1987 type season so idk.
― nomar, Monday, 25 September 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link
isn't OPS+ relative to the league/year?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
yeah
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 September 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKl7vNtW4AAI8Iu.jpg:small
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link
awesome, hope he goes on to make a billion dollars
― frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
Heard this morning he's the sixth 50-HR/120-BB guy (arbitrary cut-offs, I know)...Bonds, Ruth, Foxx for sure; my other two guesses would be McGwire and Thome.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link
Wasn't sure about the last spot, but that's it; Thome had a 52-122 season, Sosa 64-116. McGwire was walking more than I'd remembered--162 the year he hit 70.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 11:57 (six years ago) link
not ted williams?
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 September 2017 12:06 (six years ago) link
huh, forgot he only hit 40 homers in a season once
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 September 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/aaron-judge-was-amazing-aaron-judge-was-a-bum-now-hes-amazing-again/
On that list of greatest rookie seasons, I've never even heard of Benny Kauff (#5).
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
Corey: Now that we seen the best and worst of Judge in a 13 month span (twice), any expectations for what his baseline will be?12:30 Dave Cameron: Stanton with more walks.12:30 Dave Cameron: A top-3 MLB hitter, basically.12:30 Troutmaggedon: If you were building a team would you rather have Bellinger or Judge going forward?12:31 Dave Cameron: Judge
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 September 2017 12:17 (six years ago) link
Co-sign. Of all the athletes I’ve ever interviewed or featured, Judge is in the top echelon as far as being a quality human being https://t.co/HmyLhLF53F— Kyle Glaser (@KyleAGlaser) October 19, 2017
when writers badmouth players i always take it with a grain of salt -- could be nothing more than 'he wasn't talkative/didn't give me the quotes i needed to make my story good' -- but when they're praising you as a person you might be doing something right
― mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link
Michael Baumann on today's Ringer podcast (in the middle of a beautiful 10-minute anti-"plucky"-Yankees rant): Judge is "as bland and boring as Derek Jeter."
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link
cartilage cleanup!
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/aaron-judge-shoulder-surgery-monday-yankees-announce-article-1.3648991
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link
Judge winning out in the unofficial competition against Bellinger once again.
― omar little, Sunday, 13 May 2018 04:48 (five years ago) link
His BABIP is again freakishly high at .363 (.357 last year). He's .353 for his career now, which would put him tied for 7th on this (five-year-old) career list if he had enough AB, with four of the guys ahead of him only there because of their historic batting averages:
http://waswatching.com/2013/06/24/highest-career-babip-min-3000-pa/
Can he keep this up? I don't know--I expected him to come back to earth this year, and thus far he hasn't.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link
it's not that high given his skillset...he hits the ball really hard, runs well, and doesn't pop it up a lot. he's going to run high BABIPs
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 July 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
Would much rather have Bellinger.
― clemenza,
i appreciate bold claims like this, i really do! and after last year, it was at least a plausible viewpoint, especially considering bellinger's relative youth.
but i must ask you now - would you still rather have cody bellinger?
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
Is Judge even going to come back this season?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
maybe after Labor Day, sounds like
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
Hey, where were you four days ago when it me vs. Tracer Hand and the world?
― clemenza, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link
I wasn’t really interested in the AL record discussion, but the question of who should win MVP seems pretty settled to me. I wouldn’t take bill james’s selected twitter following of confused dads to portend much when it comes to actual voting
― k3vin k., Friday, 7 October 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link
I meant more the question of whether they were legitimately pitching to Judge during that 20-game stretch, and whether--intentional or not--the strategy was working. Anyway, it's all moot now.
― clemenza, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
The interesting thing about the James tweet to me was just that he started out assuming one result and got the other...I wouldn't characterize James's Twitter following that way; honestly, to me the result suggests the opposite. I think old-fashioned baseball people--and I'll include myself here to a degree--see Judge running away with it; more analytical-leaning fans foresee a close vote.
― clemenza, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link
I always find it, sincerely, incredibly confusing when people with analytical backgrounds like Bill James and Elon Musk do a Twitter poll and appear to take the results seriously. With Musk, there’s an explanation - he knows it’s completely unreliable but he is always trolling the world. What is James’ excuse?
― Karl Malone, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
I mean, I run a Twitter poll every once in a while because it’s funny but it absolutely absurd to take the results seriously. It breaks all 194228 rules of statistical methodology
― Karl Malone, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link
James should never, ever have gone on Twitter. I don't keep up with anyone there, but from what he posts on his own site--where he constantly complains about Twitter--he just seems completely ill-suited. He's always talking about blocking people for rudeness, which I suspect amounts to them disagreeing with him. James is an old-fashioned, voice-of-God writer; I say it, you agree. He didn't start out that way; three decades of deification will do that. Even in the "Ask Bill" section of his own site, there is a sort of deference built into most questions.
― clemenza, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link
Yeah I think he’s overstayed his welcome, tbh. I guess if anyone’s earned a right to be crabby and frequently and self-righteously wrong, it’s him
― Karl Malone, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
nobody's earned that right!
― DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Friday, 7 October 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
“If”!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 October 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link
Death to Bill James!
― Karl Malone, Friday, 7 October 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link
Seven strikeouts and counting in two games--looks lost right now.
― clemenza, Friday, 14 October 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
I was lost, and now I'm found.
― clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link
From a Jayson Stark column today:
Check this out. It’s the Yankees’ mountainous masher through 47 games in 2023 versus that same mountainous masher through 47 games in 2022. It’s mind-blowing.
HOME RUNS
2023 — 182022 — 18
MULTI-HR GAMES
2023 — 42022 — 4
MULTI-HIT GAMES
2023 — 132022 — 13
RUNS SCORED
2023 — 412022 — 39
RBIs
2023 — 392022 — 38
EXTRA-BASE HITS
2023 — 282022 — 27
PA/HR
2023 — 11.22022 — 11.3
SLASH LINE
2023 — .298/.410/.679/1.0882022 — .303/.371/.657/1.029
― clemenza, Friday, 2 June 2023 21:50 (eleven months ago) link
Aaron Boone said he expects Aaron Judge to return this season but stopped short of guaranteeing it. “That’s an absolute. I can’t say that about anyone.”— Bryan Hoch ⚾️ (@BryanHoch) June 24, 2023
― mookieproof, Saturday, 24 June 2023 17:44 (ten months ago) link
Yeah the second I read about the second toe injection, it was a bad vibe. Does Aaron Judge even have a toe anymore?
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Saturday, 24 June 2023 17:55 (ten months ago) link
Torn ligament in his toe. Can’t walk without pain. Fucking hell.
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Saturday, 24 June 2023 18:51 (ten months ago) link
Genuinely surprised that last night was his first 3-HR game.
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 August 2023 11:27 (eight months ago) link
As measured by games, fastest ever to 250 HR.
https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-judge-becomes-mlbs-fastest-player-to-250-career-homers-034419437.html
― clemenza, Saturday, 2 September 2023 18:20 (eight months ago) link