Like Apprenticeship Programs or Artistic Pursuits: Minor League Baseball reporting 2017

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Affiliation changes

Arkansas goes from LAA to SEA
Jackson (TN) goes from SEA to ARI
Mobile goes from ARI to LAA

Carolina goes from ATL to MIL
Lancaster (CA) goes from HOU to COL
Modesto goes from COL to SEA

New teams
Buies Creek (NC) Astros (which will move to Fayetteville, NC in 2019) -- High-A HOU
Down East Wood Ducks (Kinston, NC) -- High-A TEX
Florida Fire Frogs (Kissimmee, FL) -- High-A ATL

Discontinued teams
Bakersfield, CA
High Desert, CA
Brevard County, FL

Name changes
Binghamton Mets become Binghamton Rumble Ponies
Jacksonville Suns become Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp
New Orleans Zephyrs become New Orleans Baby Cakes

mookieproof, Friday, 3 February 2017 16:59 (three years ago) link

no word on whether the bowling green hot rods will change their name to the massacres for a one-day promotion

mookieproof, Friday, 3 February 2017 19:51 (three years ago) link*QL8GW9bYkdqQk2eByaK6Ig.png

for a price, the myrtle beach pelicans will let you fuck in their luxury suites, clubhouse or field

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 February 2017 02:05 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Former top prospect Jon Singleton, who will make $2 million this year, was assigned to begin the season back in Double A.

mookieproof, Monday, 3 April 2017 21:59 (three years ago) link

not reporting per se but holy shit loooooooooool

Eric Stephen‏ @truebluela 27m27 minutes ago
Among 2017 Pacific Coast Lg Hall of Fame inductees includes PCL historical society founder Dick Beverage, my new favorite name in baseball

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:12 (three years ago) link

lol i just came here to post that

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:40 (three years ago) link

i see Dick Beverage p much every year at the SABR convention, u filthy ppl

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2017 18:43 (three years ago) link

i would expect no less of you

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 April 2017 19:38 (three years ago) link

is this the thread for asking how the Hank Azaria low-minors-announcer IFC sitcom is?

it's set in PA and the team is called the Frackers, so that's one good joke

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 April 2017 21:48 (three years ago) link

Fort Myers Miracle
Miracle to Offer Half Priced Tickets to Anyone with a United Airlines Boarding Pass

mookieproof, Monday, 10 April 2017 19:33 (three years ago) link

yard goats opening night

johnny crunch, Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:49 (three years ago) link

I thought I saw this thred but couldn't find it. anyway:

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:38 (three years ago) link

that's staten island 4 u

could be worse -- a lot of (mostly southern) teams are doing 'military heroes baseball cards' where they print up/give away cards featuring local armed forces members. the staten island version would presumably be cards of nyc cops

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:49 (three years ago) link

The Ballad of Mike Hessman

mookieproof, Friday, 21 April 2017 14:55 (three years ago) link

Name changes
Binghamton Mets become Binghamton Rumble Ponies
Jacksonville Suns become Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp
New Orleans Zephyrs become New Orleans Baby Cakes

this is a nice trio of name changes

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 April 2017 15:44 (three years ago) link

i'm afraid you are mistaken

mookieproof, Friday, 21 April 2017 16:06 (three years ago) link

perfect game on 88 pitches for double-a pensacola's tyler mahle

mookieproof, Sunday, 23 April 2017 06:10 (three years ago) link

first nine-inning perfect game in south atlantic league history on 85 pitches for augusta's domenic mazza. nine strikeouts, game score 103

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:00 (three years ago) link

these are not common, even in the minors -- mahle's was the first in the southern league since 1970. idk what's going on

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:04 (three years ago) link

toledo mud hens' sgt peppers 50th anniversary uniforms

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:59 (three years ago) link

good thing VU & Nico anniversary was preseason

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:38 (three years ago) link

one month passes...


mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:29 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

changes announced for 2019:

triple-a colorado springs (currently MIL) will move to san antonio
double-a san antonio (currently SD) will move to amarillo
short-season helena (currently MIL) will move to colorado springs

i suspect that the new san antonio team will eventually be TEX affiliated, round rock will switch from TEX to HOU, and the brewers will get stuck with something crappy like las vegas or fresno for triple-a

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:48 (three years ago) link

i liked the Colorado Springs park/ambience

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:52 (three years ago) link

san antonio is one of the most interesting stadium I have been in it's p amazing. it's backed up onto an AFB and there are a lot of sad USAF folx just out trying to enjoy their night. xp

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 15:01 (three years ago) link

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:50 (three years ago) link

they should send one to Dusty

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:56 (three years ago) link

apparently the 'ligament' is removable

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:58 (three years ago) link

Effective immediately, the Replay America Tour shows scheduled at Minor League Baseball Stadiums including the show scheduled at Prince George's Stadium on Friday, August 4 have been canceled. Poor ticket sales across the entire Ballpark concert tour, was the determining reason for the cancellation. These shows featuring Billy Ocean, Taylor Dayne, Starship, the Motels and Naked Eyes were anticipated to bring thousands of people out to a ballpark environment for the enjoyment of throwback music favorites from the 1980's but just didn't generate the interest needed to support the costs.

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 June 2017 16:47 (three years ago) link

featuring a league-record 44 combined strikeouts

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 15:24 (three years ago) link

M's minor leaguers take $683 Uber to game
Four Mariners minor leaguers took a seven-hour Uber trip from Phoenix to Albuquerque, New Mexico, at a cost of $683 to make it to a game.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:56 (three years ago) link

amusing action in Winnipeg (American Association) last Saturday night

It's the bottom of the 14th inning and the Kansas City T-Bones are completely out of pitchers, having already used their entire bullpen and then their centrefielder to get through a pair of innings. So they bring in starting pitcher Matt Sergey, who is coming off a 105-pitch performance in Fargo 48 hours earlier. As a result, the righty ends up using his left arm to throw — and promptly walks the first two Goldeyes batters he faces.

After a sacrifice bunt moves them over to second and third, Sergey is asked to intentionally walk Goldeyes hitter Mason Katz to set up a bases-loaded, one-out force play situation. But instead of just making a routine wide toss to his catcher, Sergey — we remind you, he's using his wrong arm to throw — sails one to the backstop.

Shawn Pleffner trots home with the game-winning run on a wild pitch intentional walk...

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 14:47 (three years ago) link

Missoula Osprey to Retire Lyle Overbay's Number on July 28

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:17 (three years ago) link

Dodgers prospect Alex Verdugo hit a 385-foot homer at AAA tonight: 360 feet off the bat, 25 feet off Zach Borenstein's head. Holy Canseco.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) July 26, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2017 13:09 (three years ago) link

I'll be making my first visit to a Pawtucket game in 2 weeks.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2017 22:27 (three years ago) link

dayton dragons outfielder jose siri extended his hitting streak to 36 games last night, breaking the midwest league record of 35.

the previous record-holder, tony toups of the 1977 waterloo indians, was there, which is kind of cool

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:08 (three years ago) link

Behold, the most GCL play ever.

— Josh Norris (@jnorris427) August 10, 2017

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 August 2017 19:11 (three years ago) link


WilliamC, Thursday, 10 August 2017 19:28 (three years ago) link

the new york-penn league has selected 56 players to participate in its all-star game tuesday in troy, ny

exactly zero of them are from the staten island yankees, who have the best record in the league

not that i don't approve, but wtf

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:41 (three years ago) link

Columbus 5, Pawtucket 4

37-yo Eric Kratz catching for the Clippers.

They sing Sweet Caroline in Pah-tucket, but no Green Monster replica. (Greenville has one.)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 August 2017 13:30 (three years ago) link

padres infield prospect gabriel arias was added to the class a fort wayne tincaps roster on saturday

he is the first affiliated full-season-team player born in the year 2000

mookieproof, Monday, 21 August 2017 16:37 (three years ago) link

mookieproof, Monday, 21 August 2017 18:49 (three years ago) link

360° video here, which is p. cool if you make it look up

mookieproof, Monday, 21 August 2017 23:30 (three years ago) link

The Salina Stockade lost again last night. They're now 16-71. Here's how they got their .184 winning percentage.

— Ben Lindbergh (@BenLindbergh) August 23, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:27 (three years ago) link

wow awesome.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:46 (one year ago) link

Brooklyn Cyclones one win away from NY Penn League flag, and i am pondering whether to invest in $5 tickets tonight or (if nec) tom'w

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:15 (one year ago) link

Travis Sawchik: are minor leagues necessary?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:13 (one year ago) link

from a certain standpoint this is otm. certainly juan soto and casey mize don't need minor league baseball. and triple-a has never really been necessary -- it's more of a holding pen for the older replacement-level guys you need when someone gets hurt. the sheer number of transactions shifting players where they're needed seems to be rising all the time.

but i doubt that decreasing the footprint of the game is likely to have a good impact on its popularity. fewer (public) teams would present fewer opportunities, probably fewer draft rounds, and less of a reason for people to even try playing pro baseball. future kyler murrays aren't going to be any more attracted by spending development time in eternal spring training than they are by spending it in the minors.

also, minor league baseball draws 40m people a year; for reference, the nba and nhl draw in the low 20s. obviously the revenues are much smaller, but there's still money to be made as long as you can pay the players nothing and con municipalities into building ballparks.

most of that money goes to the minor league team owners, though, only a few of which are the MLB teams, and there's nothing MLB owners hate more than money they don't get a cut of. anyway the current Professional Baseball Agreement between MLB and the minors runs through 2020; could be interesting to see what happens then

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:40 (one year ago) link

i think there's a difference between "they're not necessary" and "it's a good idea to have them in some form"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:47 (one year ago) link

Sometimes baseball provides its own soundtrack. Here is the final out of the 2019 NYPL Championship Series, as heard if you were with us in park. Speakers on....

— Brooklyn Cyclones (@BKCyclones) September 11, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:15 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

5 balls, 2 strikes, walls are made of glue, 460 feet away except for one HR circle (also covered with glue) that's in the middle of center field, only weird or funny players allowed, no water or refreshments allowed for anyone in the stadium

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:42 (eleven months ago) link

oh, and anyone who plays in the league gets a MLB contract with the yankees stipulating that they must appear in at least five games

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:42 (eleven months ago) link

Two of Independent Professional Baseball’s oldest and most established Leagues are pleased to announce that they will join forces. Beginning with the 2020 season, five former members of the Can-Am League will merge into the Frontier League.

Members of the Frontier League and the new teams from the Can-Am League will make up the 14-team circuit. The New Jersey Jackals, Quebec Capitales, Rockland Boulders, Sussex County Miners and Trois-Rivieres Aigles will play in the Can-Am Division. The Washington Wild Things and Lake Erie Crushers will join the Division as well. The seven remaining teams, the Evansville Otters, Florence Freedom, Gateway Grizzlies, Joliet Slammers, Schaumburg Boomers, Southern Illinois Miners and the Windy City ThunderBolts, will compete in the Midwestern Division.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 16:35 (eleven months ago) link

wau. this would completely change minor league baseball, which has been in a reasonably steady state for 60 years

An MLB proposal to Minor League Baseball would eliminate 42 minor league teams, reorganize the minors geographically and move the draft back to August@jjcoop36 has the full story

— Kyle Glaser (@KyleAGlaser) October 18, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 18 October 2019 18:24 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

nice little antitrust exemption you got there

In a response to MLB's MiLB proposal, 105 US Representatives sent a letter today to Commissioner Rob Manfred and all 30 MLB teams.

— JJ Cooper (@jjcoop36) November 19, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:15 (ten months ago) link

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 November 2019 17:50 (ten months ago) link

we can all be legends

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 November 2019 18:31 (ten months ago) link

apparently the most notable thing about worcester, massachusetts is that the smiley face was designed there

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 16:33 (nine months ago) link

fact: the smiley face was invented when forrest gump washed mud off his face on a blank t-shirt while he was running across america because he didn't know how else to confront the pain of losing jenny once again

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:02 (nine months ago) link

mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:03 (nine months ago) link

Get your tickets now to see Cole's inevitable rehab appearance with the @TrentonThunder in the 2020 Eastern League Playoffs 😂

— New Hampshire Fisher Cats (@FisherCats) December 11, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:55 (nine months ago) link

fuckin ouch

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:08 (nine months ago) link

...Sanders, who grew up a Dodgers fan in Brooklyn before the team moved to Los Angeles, was the mayor of Burlington, Vt., in 1984 when the town landed the Vermont Lake Monsters. Now they’re on the MLB strike list. The senator is on a crusade about it and has more than 100 members of Congress with him, including Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Bakersfield), the House minority leader.

That’s a unique political alliance between a self-described democratic socialist and an unwavering supporter of President Trump.

In Burlington, Sanders told Shaikin, “What I saw with my own eyes is what minor league baseball does to a community. It is especially gratifying to see kids go out to the ballgames, families able to afford the relatively low price of tickets, and kids get autographs from players. There’s just a huge amount of excitement and community spirit….

“Major league owners have got to understand that this is not just a profit-making business. This is something that millions and millions of people, and kids, think about, pay attention to and feel strongly about.”

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 December 2019 19:55 (nine months ago) link

saw someone claiming that the dodgers leaving brooklyn was the foundational event of bernie's politics lol

meanwhile, #beef

MLB deputy commish Halem offers detailed look — photos, internal MiLB email — into MLB’s beef with minors. Says 42-team hit list is inaccurate.
The owners: ‘The problem with them, there is what they say publicly, and what they say privately is different.’

— Michael Silverman (@MikeSilvermanBB) December 11, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 13 December 2019 20:23 (nine months ago) link

I can’t even understand how baseball would work without a minor league system.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 December 2019 22:47 (nine months ago) link

i think manfred's saying mlb clubs would... like... sell their current teams and buy up a few unaffiliated feeder teams? or something?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 December 2019 23:19 (nine months ago) link

manfred's background is in labor relations, and he seems to be treating MiLB like a union he's trying to break

i imagine the atlantic league and american association would be thrilled to get affiliated players, then there are the current minor league teams that big league clubs outright own, plus they could run more games out of the spring complexes. and once MiLB is broken, they can pick off the more desirable current minor league teams (durham, columbus, etc) and offer them a shittier deal

god knows the us government loves breaking unions, but the fallout from this would affect so many districts that i think congress might actually do something about it

the money involved in all this is minuscule for a $10b/year industry, but the story of modern america is that the extremely wealthy would rather watch society burn than part with any money at all, so

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 December 2019 23:54 (nine months ago) link

four weeks pass...
one month passes...

Last Friday, Jake Seiner and Ben Walker of the Associated Press reported that Major League Baseball has opted to raise minor league player pay to, at minimum, $4,800 dollars a year. As usual, the change was announced unilaterally: minor league players are not unionized and cannot help but accept this compensation. Specifically, MLB decided to set minimum pay levels (not including spring training, which is unpaid, and not starting until the 2021 season) at:

$400/week ($4,800 for a three-month season) for Rookie or short-season (up from $290/$3,480)
$500/week ($10,000 for a five-month season) for Class A (up from $290/$5,800)
$600/week ($12,000 for a five-month season) for Double-A (up from $350/$7,000)
$700/week ($14,000 for a five-month season) for Triple-A (up from $502/$10,040)

Assuming that players work an eight-hour workday five days a week (which is an assumption you’d make only if you both knew nothing about how long minor leaguers work and also were feeling extremely generous towards the league), the new pay scale works out to an hourly minimum wage of $10, $12.50, $15, and $17.50, respectively. Assuming even 50 hours a week puts everybody below $15 an hour; 60 hours a week puts everyone below $12. And all of the scenarios assume either that players are independently wealthy or that they’ll fit their year-round conditioning and training in around finding some other way to make money seven or nine months out of the year.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 20:45 (seven months ago) link

only the truly desperate or insane need apply

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:16 (seven months ago) link

in no way do I mean this in approval of this terrible system... but honestly I'd be a much happier person right now if I was playing minor league baseball for $10/hr

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:31 (seven months ago) link

the fact that it won't start until next season makes it look expressly like 'look what we can do if we save money by contracting a quarter of the minors'

good three part fangraphage on that from last week btw:

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:56 (seven months ago) link

i think this could inspire a new 2020 thread title mook

I suppose this is on-brand given the low player salaries: Minor League Baseball announced a sponsorship deal making Stauffer's the "official frozen prepared meals" of MiLB.

— Bill Shaikin (@BillShaikin) February 24, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:58 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Started to feel inevitable

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 19:32 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

A's told minor leaguers they've decided to end their $400/week stipend on May 31, with five days' notice. The part that says "your UPC remains in place" means "we won't pay you, but you do not have the right to be a free agent." Interesting this was sent by GM and not ownership.

— Lindsey Adler (@lindseyadler) May 27, 2020

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 11:00 (three months ago) link

Just some rough math. Say there are 200 players in a minor league system. Paying each $400/week for July, July and August is $5,200 per player. To pay every minor leaguer would have cost the Oakland A's a hair over $1 million.

Owner John Fisher is worth an estimated $2 billion.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) May 27, 2020

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 11:02 (three months ago) link

the sad part is that the $1M would probably be a good "investment", just in terms of boosting the morale/performance of players through the noble act of paying them

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:06 (three months ago) link

if some traveling salesman came by Fisher's office and offered to inject snake oil into the veins of all the players in his organization to boost their morale and performance for 3 months, at the insanely low price of only $1M, he would probably do it

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 15:07 (three months ago) link

the fuckin *marlins* are paying their dudes through august

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:04 (three months ago) link

We're not selling jeans here...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:07 (three months ago) link

hundreds of minor leaguers are being released, although it's difficult to track because MLB's (and therefore baseball america's, etc.) transactions list is not being updated

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:19 (three months ago) link

the march agreement between MLB and the MLBPA stipulated that 2020 would count for players' service time whether there's a season or not, e.g., mookie's gonna be a free agent even if he never plays a game for the dodgers

no one seems to know if the same holds true for minor leaguers, or who even gets to make that decision. my guess is that the commissioner just dictates it.

there aren't that many 6th-year minor league free agents or rule 5 picks who actually make it -- i can only think of yangervis solarte and odubel herrera recently, and they aren't great -- but it would be pretty fucked up if minor leaguers had to spend an extra year on their entry contracts. especially if they play for the a's, who won't even pay them

mookieproof, Friday, 29 May 2020 18:49 (three months ago) link

just catching up on this

Charlie Finley days still here

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:39 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

season officially canceled in the most passive aggressive way possible

— Minor League Baseball (@MiLB) June 30, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 21:04 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Why MLB's minor leagues as you know them will end Sept. 30

Some expressed suspicion that fellow owners have been sharing information with MLB in hopes of currying favor. "They're doing to us what they do to the major and minor league players: pitting us against each other," the owner said.

Several other minor league owners declined to speak for attribution because they still hope their teams will be spared and they fear retribution from MLB. "They have all the power," one said. "And they're vindictive."

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 September 2020 14:26 (two weeks ago) link

this sentence is pretty brutal

Minor League Baseball executives and owners have tried for 11 months to find some sort of leverage with MLB, whether through direct talks or public and congressional pressure, before realizing they really have none, according to more than a dozen major and minor league officials, team owners and others interviewed by ESPN.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 September 2020 15:45 (two weeks ago) link

Breaking: Minor League Baseball President Pat O’Conner to retire after 2020 season. O’Conner spent 28 years with MiLB office, 38 years working in pro ball. The 11th MiLB prez, O’Conner’s office might be eliminated during ongoing negotiations between MLB and MiLB.

— Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) September 8, 2020

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:17 (two weeks ago) link

Pat O’Conner openly bragged about helping MLB lobby Congress to pass the Save America’s Pastime Act, one of the most contemptible pieces of legislation in recent memory, only to learn there is no honor amongst thieves when MLB still moved to eliminate Minor League teams.

— Nick Francona (@NickFrancona) September 8, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:57 (two weeks ago) link

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