where we encourage the delusions of one jonathan quayle higgins... [aka all things ORIOLES thread]

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okay, so seriously...the o's are looking at maybe 3rd, prolly fourth.

but: even if the untested youngsters in their rotation prove to be merely competent starters, doesn't having 3 competent lefties in your rotation in a division (that's right, 2 other lefty starters in the whole al east) that only has 2 help a bit? did anyone really know who josh beckett or dontrelle willis were last year?

j.q. higgins, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm let down the Os let vlad get away. I thought it was a done deal.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

the way i understand it, the only thing they could have done would have been to import the dominican national team and bus in dc's latino population...their contract offer was the best he got.

j.q. higgins, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

One of these years the injury bug is going to up and bite the Yanks on the ass, maybe this is the year. They have been pretty fortunate in the Torre run for this kind of thing.

earlnash, Thursday, 1 April 2004 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link

not true. see last year, for starters. and it would be very freakish if the yankees get through this year without any major injuries. they're practically begging for them.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 1 April 2004 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link

The Yankee Gimp My Ride Posse:

Kevin Brown (crew captain)
Bernie Williams
Kenny Lofton
Tom Gordon
Mariano Rivera
Steve Karsay
Jason Giambi (Suck It Up! division)
Jon Leiber (getting a head start)
Donovan Osborne (holding it DOWN)
Orlando Hernandez
Tony Clark
Travis Lee (see: Jon Leiber)
Brian Cashman (Self-Inflicted division)

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 1 April 2004 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

did the yanks re-sign the duke? huh, boy.

it is kind of funny. the strategy used to be to hoard thet best available players...now it seems that they have a disproportionately strong starting lineup, w/ the 80's yanks lurking in reserve.

i mean, is tony clark a new look steve balboni or what?

j.q. higgins, Thursday, 1 April 2004 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Higgins, can you explain the performance of one Rodrigo López? His style of play is intriguing me the more I pay attention to him.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 May 2004 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

it's truly beyond me, but he definitely looks more like the roy runner up than the pitcher he was last year. his command has been phenomenal.

j.q. higgins, Saturday, 15 May 2004 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey--Fat Sidney had a decent outing!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 17 May 2004 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

another in the long line of o's pitchers that merely threatens big things. remember ben mcdonald?

i hope the fat man can put his bad streak behind. he'd looked pretty goos and then just fell apart after that incredible outing in tampa...the nine inning, 88 pitch gem.

we'll see if rodrigo lopez can stabilize the rotation, too.

j.q. higgins, Monday, 17 May 2004 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

well it looks like he's good up to 4 innings... no hitter through the top of the 5th and then self-destruction.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:18 (eighteen years ago) link

another good outing for the fat man. 106 inning complete game, 3 er.

j.q. higgins, Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

106 inning complete game

And people were going nuts about Schmidt's outing.

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Sunday, 23 May 2004 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link


that's 106 pitches, i mean.


j.q. higgins, Sunday, 23 May 2004 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

staff ace Sidney: 4 2/3 IP, 10 H, 8 ER, ERA now 6.09

O's are hitting the ball well, but damn they've got no pitching. 7 game road trip may now decide the fate of their season.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 28 May 2004 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

The quick hook on Rodrigo Lopez is very effective. This guy looks great 1-4 innings. Even the RSox in Fenway could not touch him.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 31 May 2004 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

fat sidney!

j.q. higgins, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
rodrigo lopez = back in the bullpen!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

j.q. higgins=beaten, battered and shamed


j.q. higgins, Friday, 18 June 2004 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

rodrigo's none too happy about it, either

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

tonight the orioles walked 13 in the first seven innings--and if tony clark and ruben sierra could lay off the neck-high pitches it would have been a few more. rodrigo (1 1/3 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 4 BB) appears to be in a pout about his exile to the bullpen...

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link

granted a lot of youngsters coming up aren't accustomed to facing selective hitters, but does the amount of walks reflect on minor league training, big league coaching or a collective psychotic meltdown?

j.q. higgins, Wednesday, 23 June 2004 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"poor location"

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

another problem, according to tom boswell: this season, fat sidney ponson (3-9) has eaten everything except innings.

j.q. higgins, Wednesday, 23 June 2004 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, I was just gonna post that, Higg!

So is this Melvin Mora's annual midseason down-the-chute injury?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

pick 'em: mora? gibbons? javy lopez is invariably next.

actually, i think mora stole gibby's power.

j.q. higgins, Wednesday, 23 June 2004 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
wow...the o's have chased boy wonder zach greinke w/ a four homer performance, including moonshots by such vaunted power hitters as karim garcia and robert machado.

j.q. higgins, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Why I Hate The Orioles: Fuck-me pumps for the Yankees, Fuck-You-Up pumps for my fantasy pitchers. Fuck them.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

see, if you had just taken weaver...

ah, but if the lead holds (and who knows in these troubling times) the o's will have the east's best record against the central, pending this week's series against minnesota.


j.q. higgins, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

karim garcia hit 2 homers and knocked in 5 to kick off his second tour w/ the o's.

j.q. higgins, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

wapo already has mazilli on the brink. on the other hand, they've already fired the pitching coach and rehired former manager ray miller there, so he's not got much to fear in the clubhouse. is it me or will the orioles suck until angelos retires/dies?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:26 (eighteen years ago) link

well, it's funny the way things have been spun about injuries. as fucked as this sounds, o's tailspins over the last few years have coincided w/ sequi injuries.

but really, if the o's just hadn't have done so terribly against nl clubs, no one would be complaining.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG David Segui is the O's Shannon Stewart!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

BJ Ryan is the next Brad Lidge.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

he would be if he were righthanded, i suppose.

LHH are 2-59 against him this season. gotta be the best LOOGY in baseball, though he's pretty good against RHH too.

John (jdahlem), Thursday, 22 July 2004 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link


gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 July 2004 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

so the o's are now 4-0 at fenway this year and 3-0 in games staretd by pedro.

anybody happen to see david ortiz's two triples today? things of comedic beauty.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

since the o's came in to being, they have the 2nd highest winning percentage in the al (.522), behind the yanks (.526).

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

very nice game from bork last night!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 29 July 2004 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link

is it me or does he bear a physical resemblance to jason johnson? he did a really good job of mixing things up, though, huh?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 29 July 2004 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link


mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll bet he'd like that.

3-0 and a sub 2 era since ray miller was re-hired? maign...

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link

ray miller's pretty good, but is he that good? i didn't see the whole game, but i did see ponson just chew up bernie williams with a couple inside fastballs and a curve away. getting ahead of batters. if the o's had been getting this kind of pitching all along, with the way they hit they might be somewhere.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 30 July 2004 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

alright, so 7 straight? doesn't quite make up for the pre-break humiliations i suffered, but i'll take it!

mel mental is on fire!

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Monday, 9 August 2004 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

still nothing? no comment on 8 straight? alright the mariners pretty much stink, but 4 straight from the rangers? their demolition of the angels last night?

miguel tejada has knocked in the most rbi since the all start break...

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Miggy and Mora both hafta go on the MVP list of ten at this point, whether they win those silly batting and RBI titles or not.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

isn't mora still top five in obp, too?

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

so checking mlb.com, mora handily leads the al in obp. he's at .436 and posada is the next closest w/ .412. he also leads al in ops b/c he has a .598 slg to go w/ that league leading obp and only manny and david ortiz have higher slg's, but not by much.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

respect to j. hairston jr. for sucking it up and playing all over the ballfield when he wants to be playing second--including CF, where i don't think he'd *ever* been before. and for hitting .311 while doing it.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
just looking at season stats for pitching and hitting and thinking about moneyball:

-o's pitching led the league in walks issued, but also allowed the fewest homers (pretty impressive on that count playing 81 ganes at camden)

-o's hitting was in the top five or six of most offensive categories except homers and ops (due to the low amount of total bases i guess...fewest strikeouts in the league, too)

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

how do you rate the efforts of lee mazilli this year, jqh?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

not really excited. i think grover probably could have done better. mazzilli seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding on how the game is played.

i think the greater area of concern is beattie/flanagan.

i mean, i think they've made some good deals to strengthen the system and some good small signings, but i'm concerned about things like wasting money on dejean then trading him for a guy they released, trading a young arm for grimsley...

it'll be interesting to see what happens w/ their small ball guys nest season. roberts, newhan and hairston are basicaly the same dude, maybe more so hairston and newhan as they're both natural 2nd basemen. javy's been a bit of disappointment, though his numbers are very good for a catcher and no one expected him to replicate last year. raffy's been a huge disappointment.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Raffy shouldn't've been signed, given his age & high cost. As for Newhan, I thought he was tearing the cover off the ball, which is unlike anything Hairston or Roberts have done (ho ho ho).

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I find it funny that you're disappointed in a catcher that's putting up an 850ish OPS, unless it's his defense with which your disappointment rests.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

well, my javy comments were qualified ("a bit," i said). season's not over yet, and i certainly didn't expect him to hit 43 homers and knock in a 120 runs again, but when you get paid top dog money for a catcher, you'd like to see production better than half that. maybe some of the fault lies in maz for overusing him? i don't know.

like roberts and hairston, newhan is fast and doesn't have much power. he hits well, though and has the second best obp on the team next to mel mora. roberts has hot an assload of doubles, but newhan actually hits triples and maybe has a little better hr power than roberts and hairston.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

How much did all the Oriole free agents get? I'm guessing Tejada is the only one really giving Baltimore some back for the buck (though Javy does have the 2nd best VORP for any AL catcher, behind only I-Rod).

Is there any rumblin' about the O's making a play for pitching this off-season?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

tejada got a big contract...i wanna say 5 or 6 years at 12 million per year, which is cool w/ me. i think the value of javy's contract is 21 or 24 million...maybe 3 years? i know the offer to i-rod was the same, but he wanted more years. they may be able to cut loose palmeiro after this year as he has an option that vests if he plays in 140 games, which is not a certainty given his performance. given that they have a pretty low team salary already, they should be able to make a play for some pitching in the offseason b/c segui, marty cordova and omar daal will be wiped off the books...probably freeing another 12-15 million.

i've heard that carl pavano is one of their big targets. although i also hear milwood, milton and d-lowe. perhaps the much maligned russ ortiz?

i imagine they'll deal roberts and/or hairston, maybe julio, maybe gibbons...

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

is it possible?

mel mora has fewer errors than any third baseman going back to may 21. it would be interesting to see how many he had in may up until the 21st. i know he had 11 in april.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 10 September 2004 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

so tonight i left dupont circle in washington, dc at 4:55pm and arrived in my seat (without food or drink) at camden yards at 7:01pm for a 7:05 start. the game ended at 10:35pm. i arrived home in dc at 12:10am.


mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 11 September 2004 04:07 (seventeen years ago) link

melvin mora did not commit an error tonight, but there was a single in the hole that i kind of felt he should have gotten to--or at least made more of an effort.

javier vasquez (l): 2.1 innings, 5 hits, 2 walks, 3 ks, 8 earned runs
rodrigo lopez (w): 5.2 innings, 8 hits, 2 walks, 4 ks, 5 earned runs

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 11 September 2004 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

Uni update is pretty nice!


polyphonic, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Are they done with the godawful "O's" script hat?

Andy K, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link


j.q higgins, Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link



Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 November 2008 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Bill (NJ): Have you heard if the Orioles plan on putting Wieters on the Opening Day roster or if they're going to play arb clock games with him?

SportsNation Rob Neyer: (12:21 PM ET ) It looks like they're going to do with Wieters what the Rays did with Longoria last year. Can you blame them, really? Could save a few million bucks...

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

that's a curious statement. it means basically another year of team control.

j.q higgins, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 04:05 (thirteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

I didn't realize jq higgins and mookieproof had been chronicling the Orioles on ilx for almost 20 years, kudos

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 6 September 2021 16:50 (eleven months ago) link

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