A Thread For Starting Pitchers That Are Doing Really Well

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Like Gavin Floyd against the Tigers today through 7.

Not that anything needs to be said about it HINT HINT.

David R., Saturday, 12 April 2008 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

good job

deeznuts, Saturday, 12 April 2008 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Renteria really sucks.

David R., Saturday, 12 April 2008 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

Ryan Dempster has been shockingly effective in his two starts. 13 IP, 4 hits, 4 BB, 2R (1 ER), 10 K. Kudos.

felicity, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

not really shocked cuz dempster showed #3-type stuff in relief last year, mixing in a lot of above avg pitches but nothing super-special; having him in the bp was kind of confounding to me. havent seen him yet this year but my guess is that he'll be a quality starter

deeznuts, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah the shock is from years of mis-having him as a closer.

felicity, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

edgar "i stretch a lot in the batters box" renteria provided half their offense!

Kyle Lo(h)se deserves a place here

bnw, Saturday, 12 April 2008 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Cain just dingered.

Leee, Saturday, 12 April 2008 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

And has 6 no-hit innings.

Leee, Saturday, 12 April 2008 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

it is now 6.2 3-hit innings.

can add Looper to the list of ex-closers doing wtf well as a starter.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Saturday, 12 April 2008 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

LEE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY ANYTHING WHICH IS THE POINT OF THE THREAD HINT HINT

David R., Sunday, 13 April 2008 03:11 (eleven years ago) link

Off-topic but on-topic in the "taking thread title literally" sense: SCOTT OLSEN (!?!?!?)

Not surprising: Jair Mothjerrfjuckjing Jurrjens. What is surprising, though, is his 7.46 K/9.

Andy K, Monday, 21 April 2008 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, after yesterday's start I grabbed him in the fantasy league. He looked good in an "I don't give a fuck about ANY of these chumps" way.

Rock Hardy, Monday, 21 April 2008 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

Ponson wtf.

Andy K, Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

every year there's always one or two dudes like this guy was in '00:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/smithch07.shtml

omar little, Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

joe saunders

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

scott olson, tho he got rocked last night

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 May 2008 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Jon Lester is pitching really well so far today.

mattbot, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 01:08 (eleven years ago) link

: D

omar little, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

Man I sure picked the right meaningless Royals game to go to. Never thought I'd see a no-hitter.

govern yourself accordingly, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

well they are often worse pitched than some one or two hit games.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

well, you know, it takes a tremendous amount of luck to achieve a one or two hitter.

j.q higgins, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

they are often worse pitched than three or four hitters.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

haha, fuck you :)

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

(METS HAVE DONE FINE W/OUT ONE IN 46 YEARS)

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

best pitched game i ever saw live was when pedro struck out 15 and lost. to tampa. completely wtf.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

excuse me, retrosheet.org tells me he struck out 17 and lost.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

PITCHING

Tampa Bay Devil Rays IP H R ER BB SO HR
Trachsel W(2-2) 9 3 0 0 3 11 0

Boston Red Sox IP H R ER BB SO HR
P. Martinez L(5-1) 9 6 1 1 1 17 0

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

but Trachsel pitched better! HE GAVE UP HALF AS MANY HITS!

anyone see WGN rerun the 9th of Jim Maloney's no hitter vs the Cubs in '65, a few weeks ago during a rain delay? The guy walked TEN and threw something like 190 pitches!

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Back when the game was played by MEN

Andy K, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

pretty sure while w/ montreal pedro threw 9 perfect innings & ended up losing

deeznuts, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

that's not too impressive, a lot of bad luck involved there.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

xp to Andy: MEN whose arms were dead at 31!

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

so what? all the hitters were either boozed up or hungover. EVEN PLAYING FIELD.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

xp to Andy: MEN whose arms were dead at 31!

-- Dr Morbius, Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Back then, you didn't know whether you'd HAVE your throwing arm the next day -- lost to the combine out on the back forty, or combat, or what have you. You just threw like hell, left everything out there on the mound.

Andy K, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

I once left my watch out on the mound, but that was not on purpose.

G00blar, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

daniel cabrera, the consecutive reigning AL walks champion, pitched his third game WITHOUT issuing a walk this season last night. his three-peat is in peril as he has now tumbled out of the top ten on the heels of his 8th straight quality start.

j.q higgins, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

Following Daver's stinging rebukes, I'd like to known if it's now OK to say that Lester pitched a NH.

Leee, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Dana Eveland is pitching very nicely.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/72/175995087_edd1f77f57_o.jpg

zaxxon25, Thursday, 22 May 2008 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

i saw andrew miller strike out 9 the other night, but i originally thought it was 13 or so, so i couldn't even imagine seeing 17

joe saunders is 8-1 w/ a 2.31 era right now

J0rdan S., Saturday, 24 May 2008 05:53 (eleven years ago) link

JUSTIN DUCHSCHERER

Andy K, Sunday, 25 May 2008 02:38 (eleven years ago) link

n/m

Andy K, Sunday, 25 May 2008 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

Cueto through five

Andy K, Sunday, 1 June 2008 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Last Play: G. Blanco reached on bunt single to third

>:O

Steve Shasta, Sunday, 1 June 2008 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

BRETTY MYERS OH MY THRU 6

johnny crunch, Thursday, 5 June 2008 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

Oh well

Andy K, Thursday, 5 June 2008 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

Greg Maddux still has it. He's perfect so far . . .

felicity, Thursday, 5 June 2008 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

Ladies and Gentlemen, Bitter Cubsfan

deeznuts, Thursday, 5 June 2008 02:31 (eleven years ago) link

I guess it's all part of what they call . . . gowring up.

felicity, Thursday, 5 June 2008 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

Not a no-hitter, but Kyle Hendricks is through 8IP at just 71 pitches.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 20:39 (five months ago) link

it is a shutout

na (NA), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:39 (five months ago) link

81-pitch complete game shutout

na (NA), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:50 (five months ago) link

only 3 Ks

na (NA), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:51 (five months ago) link

Lot of good D in the outfield today.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 20:51 (five months ago) link

yeah but Hendricks didn't even hit a HR, laaaame

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:52 (five months ago) link

Fiers second career no-hitter (also: second career shutout, second career complete game)

omar little, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 06:12 (five months ago) link

I was busy being tortured by Edwin Diaz

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 10:49 (five months ago) link

I guess that's about as inelegant as no-hitters get...I salute him, anyway (when he tries to salute back, he won't be able to lift his arm).

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 11:30 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

The Rays are 8 innings into a combined perfect game -- opener Ryne Stanek (first 2 innings) and Ryan Yarbrough (6 IP).

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:23 (three months ago) link

never mind

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:40 (three months ago) link

Rookie Paddack for the Padres. Through 7.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 18 July 2019 01:14 (three months ago) link

Castro HR, it will never happen for the Padres.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 18 July 2019 01:16 (three months ago) link

sale has 12 strikeouts through five (89 pitches tho)

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:28 (three months ago) link

Leake perfect through 7, more importantly: he got Trout and Ohtani and he only threw 67 (!!!) pitches.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 20 July 2019 04:10 (three months ago) link

@BtBScore
Mike Leake has allowed an average exit velocity of 90.9 MPH on 16 batted balls.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 20 July 2019 04:16 (three months ago) link

This is what it must have been like watching prime Maddux.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 20 July 2019 04:21 (three months ago) link

Welp, well now he gets to pitch a Maddux.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 20 July 2019 04:35 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

tsk, slept on Astros' latest combined 0-hitter

Keith Hernandez said they "don't tickle my fancy"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 August 2019 07:21 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

This thread has probably outlived its usefulness--like Keith, I couldn't care less unless it's a CG. (Two guys combining for four home runs doesn't thrill me either.) Anyway, a game I'm watching, Verlander's through five: 73 pitches, 8 strikeouts.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 18:32 (one month ago) link

Opener/bulk/middle guy also pitching extremely well for the Jays--one hit.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 18:33 (one month ago) link

Buck just called this "a good old-fashioned pitchers' duel." Kind of, sort of.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 18:35 (one month ago) link

Through 7, 93 pitches. He may not get it, but I think he has enough to finish. Haven't seen a clear replay, but he might have gotten a call on a full-count pitch to Biggio.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:03 (one month ago) link

Kind of looking like he will get 9 no hit innings but the game will go into extras in a 0-0 tie.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:15 (one month ago) link

Struck out the side in the 8th--106 pitches. Getting all the close calls right now. 13 K, game score of 94 (if I've calculated right). Yeah...I hope the Astros score here.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:21 (one month ago) link

here we go.

he has the lead, 2-0 in the bottom of the ninth, one down

i am also larry mullen jr (Karl Malone), Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:32 (one month ago) link

this would be his...third no-hitter?

i am also larry mullen jr (Karl Malone), Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:32 (one month ago) link

wtg jv

johnny crunch, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:37 (one month ago) link

Yes and second against the Jays in Toronto.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:37 (one month ago) link

I really hope Kershaw can bounce back like JV did over the last three seasons.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:38 (one month ago) link

definitely a hall of fame deal-sealing kind of event, one would think

i am also larry mullen jr (Karl Malone), Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:39 (one month ago) link

at this point it's just whether he can carry on like this long enough to be a first rounder

i am also larry mullen jr (Karl Malone), Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:40 (one month ago) link

I saw the last out (and I still don't care)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:41 (one month ago) link

Phenomenal. I've caught the last few batters of lots of no-hitters/perfect games online, but (the nothingness of the game aside) that's probably the greatest pitched game I've ever seen where I watched almost the whole thing. He got a couple of close strikes, but I don't think there was anything close to a close play the whole game. I think he hit 100 for game score. I hope such games don't become permanently extinct.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:43 (one month ago) link

JV and Cole had been very close statistically speaking for awhile but this coupled w/Cole’s last start puts him way out in front for the Cy.

omar little, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:44 (one month ago) link

Third guy (Addie Joss, Tim Lincecum) to no-hit the same team twice.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:46 (one month ago) link

Jays announcers started running down no-hitters the Jays had broken up in the 9th, and they reminded me of something I'd forgotten: Nelson Liriano tripled off Ryan to break one up, and Ryan screamed at him the whole way to third.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:48 (one month ago) link

I think he was already first-ballot, Karl.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:53 (one month ago) link

Please Astros acquire and fix Felix.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:06 (one month ago) link

If Verlander had retired this morning, here's how he'd stack up against Halladay:

V: 220-128, 3.35, 2943 IP, 2949 K, 128 ERA+, 3.43 FIP, 1.140 WHIP, 69.6 WAR
H: 203-105, 3.38, 2749 IP, 2117 K, 131 ERA+, 3.39 FIP, 1.178 WHIP, 65.4 WAR

Very close, but with Halladay drawing 85% support his first year on the ballot, I can't see where Verlander wouldn't do as well or better.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:15 (one month ago) link

Please Astros acquire and fix Johan.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:18 (one month ago) link

I should have added K/BB to that comparison above. Slight edge to Halladay, 3.58 to 3.50. These guys are really close.

clemenza, Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:25 (one month ago) link

That was the 15th nine-inning Game Score of 100+.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_score

Impressive list. Brandon Morrow's the only guy on there without much distinction. Cain and Wood derailed by injuries, Gerrit Cole, and eight guys who are in the HOF or should/will be.

clemenza, Monday, 2 September 2019 15:00 (one month ago) link

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/justin-verlander-earned-that-no-hitter/

All no-hitters are impressive, as navigating an entire game without allowing a hit is a feat unto itself and generally comes with an excellent defensive performance combined with a great outing from the pitcher. Verlander’s no-hitter is one of the most impressive in recent history due to how little he relied on his teammates to complete the task.

na (NA), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 14:20 (one month ago) link

Re: Yu Darvish' hot hand

"Since at least 1893, no pitcher in Major League Baseball history has ever had five consecutive starts without walking a batter while striking out at least 8 guys each time out."

forever and ever ramen (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:43 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

greinke through 8

Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 26 September 2019 04:16 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Anibel Sanchez through 6.

clemenza, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:06 (one week ago) link

not a chance he goes 9

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:07 (one week ago) link

HI DERE

timellison, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:55 (one week ago) link

I wuz right eh

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 October 2019 03:12 (one week ago) link


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