so in 2023, there are 9(!) qualified batters who are hitting .300 or above. in 2003 there were 40.
this season there are only 10(!!) who are hitting above .287(!!!)
― omar little, Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:32 (two years ago)
(xpost) Gausman being on there won't surprise Jays fans.
― clemenza, Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:36 (two years ago)
surprised Corbin Burnes ain't on there
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:37 (two years ago)
xp I did know this about him, no wonder he adjusted to Toronto so well after pitching in SF.Ohtani just falls short of being a qualified hitter I think (500 PA right?) but he was tapering off a bit probably due to playing injured. I think his numbers would have taken a big dent.Yoshida was over .300 a decent chunk of the season, he could in theory still do it if he starts heating up again but I doubt it, guy’s looked gassed for weeks now.
― ydkb (gyac), Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:40 (two years ago)
I'm actually surprised the Jays don't have a couple more starters on that list. Our offense doesn't score for anybody, it seems to me.
― clemenza, Thursday, 21 September 2023 19:58 (two years ago)
so in 2023, there are 9(!) qualified batters who are hitting .300 or above. in 2003 there were 40.this season there are only 10(!!) who are hitting above .287(!!!)― omar little, Thursday, September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (twenty-five minutes ago)
― omar little, Thursday, September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (twenty-five minutes ago)
Launch Angle baby! (in conjunction with higher average exit velocity/barrels/hard hit%)
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:00 (two years ago)
Oh they do, the full list didn’t expand but it’s3.8 José Berríos3.8 Jesús Luzardo4.1 Lucas Giolito4.1 Gerrit Cole4.2 Johan Oviedo4.2 Blake Snell4.2 Dylan Cease4.2 Patrick Corbin4.2 Logan Gilbert4.3 Hunter Brown4.3 Kodai Senga4.3 Yusei Kikuchi4.4 Clarke Schmidt4.4 Jordan Lyles4.5 Corbin Burnes4.5 Framber Valdez4.5 Chris Bassitt4.6 Jordan Montgomery4.6 Max Scherzer4.6 Brady Singer4.6 Freddy Peralta4.6 Pablo López4.8 Dean Kremer4.9 Dane Dunning4.9 Taijuan Walker5.0 Zac Gallen5.0 Kyle Bradish5.0 Zack Wheeler5.1 Luis Castillo5.2 Bryce Elder5.2 Justin Steele5.3 Aaron Nola5.4 Lance Lynn5.6 Spencer Strider5.7 Charlie Morton5.7 Zach Eflin6.2 Kyle Gibson
― ydkb (gyac), Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:04 (two years ago)
Emmet Sheehan just pitched a very fun game against the Giants. 5IP, 10SO, 4BB, 0H, 1ER.
Nail biter in his last inning: fly out, SO, HBP, walk, walk, walk. Even though he lost what could have been an absolute gem, can’t be disappointed with some signs of incredible promise. His strikeout stuff was absolutely nasty until that last inning.
Still a no hitter! See what the bullpen can do.
― H.P, Friday, 22 September 2023 03:25 (two years ago)
Sorry 9 strikeouts, not 10
My favourite moments in baseball this year is seeing Alex Vesia go full hype after closing out an inning/getting out of a jam. The man absolutely lives for it, so much passion every time
― H.P, Friday, 22 September 2023 03:28 (two years ago)
How the fuck did he hit this out
.@MarkVientos_5 is red hot at the dish 🔥 pic.twitter.com/ugewjfSbbT— New York Mets (@Mets) September 22, 2023
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 06:03 (two years ago)
the NL Cy Young race is vv interesting right now. Blake Snell has the lowest ERA and it's not even close. tops in bWAR too. kinda hard for me to say he's been the most dominant pitcher, w/Strider out there, but the latter has a 3.73(!) ERA, so despite the 270 Ks and 18 Ws and being the ace of a contender, that might ding him quite a bit. Steele, Gallen, Webb, and Senga are in the mix, too.
― omar little, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:34 (two years ago)
Snell is #6 in NL fWAR which may be yet another example of how flawed the various WAR calcs are.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:45 (two years ago)
eg, Wheeler is #1 NL in fWAR and #4 in bWAR.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:47 (two years ago)
true!
kinda find it hard to believe Snell would win, but there's no true standout candidate. maybe big zach wheels could pull it off with a strong final couple starts.
― omar little, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:50 (two years ago)
but i'd suspect if Strider can bring down that ERA a bit a get to 20 he'll take it.
― omar little, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:53 (two years ago)
I can't copy the whole thing, but these are the last four paragraphs from a Posnanski post the other day:
Can you say with any real assurance that Blake Snell, overall, has pitched better than Logan Webb? How much better? Snell might win the Cy Young running away. Webb will likely get little to no support.
Do the same thing with Cole and, say, Sonny Gray. In this case, it’s Cole with more innings — he leads the league with 192 innings pitched. Gray has 174. Cole also leads the league in ERA, and he has a significantly lower WHIP than Gray and a better strikeout-to-walk ratio.
But Gray’s ERA is basically the same (2.84 vs. 2.81), and Gray has his own advantages. He very rarely gives up home runs. In a time when home runs play such a massive role in scoring, being the best in the league at avoiding them (Gray has allowed seven homers all year; Cole has given up 20) is a pretty big deal. Because of that, Gray’s FIP (2.85) almost perfectly aligns with his ERA, while Cole, because he does give up the long ball, has, as mentioned, about a half-run gap.
Again, let me repeat, I’m not saying that Cole and Snell are undeserving of the Cy. They ARE deserving. But so are others. And it’s harder than ever to tell the difference.
― clemenza, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:54 (two years ago)
This is actually the key paragraph from earlier in the piece:
I bring this up because something pretty dramatic seems to be happening in baseball, Something we’ve all seen building for years and years, and now it’s upon us, or at least upon me: I have no real idea how to value starting pitchers anymore.
I assume he meant evaluate, not value.
― clemenza, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:57 (two years ago)
I have no opinion/little interest in awards* generally speaking. The Logan Webb mention caught my eye purely because he’s been repeatedly shit on by terrible Giants run support and defending but he’s pitched more innings that anyone else iirc? He pitches pretty deeply into games and if the Giants had a most valuable player this season it was him and it’s not close. That’s important when they basically had two starters all season and a bullpen that’s been…patchy. I guess that’s the point Posnanski makes, what counts as value. I did feel sorry for Justin Steele when he got lit up the other day. Haven’t watched a single Snell start this season so can’t comment but know people have commented about his high walk rate. *except Tim Lincecum’s ofc
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:00 (two years ago)
Cole and Luis Castillo must be two of the most homer friendly aces in the league
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:01 (two years ago)
Oh yeah actually thinking about it I’d like Zac Gallen not to win, not because he’s not a fine pitcher or whatever - he’s really good - but because he has repeatedly said he was so disappointed with his Cy voting that he took the names of writers who didn’t vote for him or didn’t place him highly enough.
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:05 (two years ago)
Speaking of Snell, the Padres have quietly snuck back into WC contention. If (major conditional) they are able to turn their season around in the 11th hour, that could make Snell's case a little stronger.
I could see them being a total NL darkhorse (except for those who look at Pythag. records) pulling some Cinderella story theatrics if they luck themselves into the playoffs with a major hot streak.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:11 (two years ago)
Strider is actually way up there in fWAR, which makes sense since he passes the "eye test". he's definitely the most Lincecum-like out there, i hope he's not Lincecum-like in terms of career and peak length though.
― omar little, Friday, 22 September 2023 18:12 (two years ago)
I think most starters would take his achievements regardless of length though.I really have liked watching Strider during the season, and I liked him even more when I saw something pop up from his Clemson days where he said he wanted to have dinner with Bernie Sanders. I guess his size is a concern though and he throws hard. I posted upthread that his incredible strikeout numbers could see him pass out Seaver and Lincecum in the strikeouts in the first five career years.Yeah the Padres have been storming back but that NL WC is already really competitive - they’ve likely left it too late for a run but I hadn’t actually realised their win streak was that long!
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:17 (two years ago)
Timmy had an enviable career for sure, closer to a Johan Santana than a Mark Prior, thankfully. And with World Series titles.
― omar little, Friday, 22 September 2023 18:20 (two years ago)
Mark Prior is one of felicity’s favourite pitchers ever so I’ve read a lot about him and I find him resurfacing and having great success as the Dodgers pitching coach incredible, especially when they take in guys and improve them drastically. Also, he had just taken over in LA when Lincecum was trying that second failed comeback and LA was one of the two places that really wanted him - would have loved to have seen them work together, but in the end TL couldn’t sign with LA.
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:23 (two years ago)
Prior should have won the Cy that season where voters decided a roided-up Gagne was a more deserving pick than him or Jason Schmidt. love the guy obv, he was fun to watch.
― omar little, Friday, 22 September 2023 18:27 (two years ago)
if we call great starters aces we should call the bad ones jokers
― frogbs, Friday, 22 September 2023 18:31 (two years ago)
Unfortunately I just watched Jameson Taillon (who I really like) struggle through a difficult inning against the Rockies. If the Cubbies make the postseason he’s getting Zitoed off that roster.
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:35 (two years ago)
xp Deuces
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:55 (two years ago)
some people call them Maurice
― felicity, Friday, 22 September 2023 18:56 (two years ago)
I'm a joker, mediocre, the late season choker Yet might win the CY based on flawed WAR 🎶
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 22 September 2023 19:20 (two years ago)
Some people say I look like a batboy, yeahSome like to say I can’t shove
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 19:32 (two years ago)
the Padres have quietly snuck back into WC contention
making up four games with nine to play and four other teams ahead of you is . . . not a promising scenario. fangraphs still has them under 1%
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 September 2023 20:46 (two years ago)
When I speak Of the pompatous of glove
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 September 2023 21:09 (two years ago)
'Cause I'm a pickerI'm a masherI’m stealing quickerSay hi to catcher I play my ballgame in the sun
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 21:13 (two years ago)
Brewers marlins 2nd inning is crazy. Brewers have batted around and put up 10 runs, there are two outs
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 22 September 2023 23:27 (two years ago)
everyone has scored a run and everyone has an RBI except Adames
― omar little, Friday, 22 September 2023 23:33 (two years ago)
Rowdy Tellez pitched the 9th. no runs, one hit, one strikeout (!!)
― frogbs, Saturday, 23 September 2023 02:33 (two years ago)
kinda wonder if this is the first time the last out of a postseason-clinching game was pitched by a position player. but I've no clue how to look it up.
― frogbs, Saturday, 23 September 2023 02:39 (two years ago)
That's amazing...has to be--and what a guy to do it.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 September 2023 02:41 (two years ago)
this is great
Pitchers who secured the final out on the day the Brewers clinched a postseason berth: 1981: Rollie Fingers 1982: Bob McClure2008: CC Sabathia2011: John Axford2018: Josh Hader2019: Junior Guerra2020: Adrian Houser2021: Josh Hader2023: Rowdy Tellez pic.twitter.com/It7vgDBubx— Adam McCalvy (@AdamMcCalvy) September 23, 2023
― mookieproof, Saturday, 23 September 2023 02:59 (two years ago)
Well that is not what i expected rowdy tellez to sound like
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 September 2023 03:04 (two years ago)
what a dude
― H.P, Saturday, 23 September 2023 03:41 (two years ago)
Love Rowdy Tellez. I’ve seriously watched this video so many times (gives a nice shout out to Willy Adames in this too)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sq8Ky56MEA
― ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 23 September 2023 04:50 (two years ago)
The Padres have an easy schedule the rest of the way (STL,SF,CHW) so I'm not counting them out yet.
Re:Snell, the combination of his high walk rate (5BB/9IP) and phenomenal ERA are practically unprecedented in recent years. It seems lucky/unsustainable, but he somehow keeps going. He has a 1.66 ERA in the second half, and a 1 98 SO/BB ratio. None of it makes sense. (I keep waiting for it to make sense, because I have him in fantasy baseball)
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 23 September 2023 05:56 (two years ago)
I really thought Snell was done in 2019 after breaking his toe in the bathroom (obviously a curse-worthy injury). Strange fella
― H.P, Saturday, 23 September 2023 08:27 (two years ago)
Lord, Wainwright is a blackhole of a personality in that clip. Cruel to give him a mic amongst all those actual funny and appealing blokes
― H.P, Saturday, 23 September 2023 08:36 (two years ago)
Put Kershaw down as a 2-3% chance at 300 as well.
Meant to run a Favorite Toy projection on this...works out to 1%, so very close. Verlander, skipping past 2020/21 and using his 2019 season as his third most recent, comes out at 0%. I still feel intuitively that Kershaw's a slightly longer longshot than Verlander--I can't see Kershaw hanging around that long.
Verlander won all of 1 game in 2020/21. If you were to add another 30 wins for those two years--and depending upon how much his longevity would have been affected by him pitching instead of sitting out those two seasons--he might have been a very good bet going into 2024.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 September 2023 17:00 (two years ago)
Yeah kershaw has talked about retiring every year for the past 3? Keeps signing one year contracts so I don’t know, don’t feel like it’s very likely. Even if he keeps going, he’s been flirting with the idea of joining the rangers to get back to his hometown and as previously mentioned to much chagrin here, he ain’t as likely to get as many wins with that team vs. the dodgers, even with their recent uptick.
― H.P, Saturday, 23 September 2023 23:42 (two years ago)