General 2022 MLB Postseason Thread

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Thanks for the link! That was it.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:57 (three years ago)

What in the hell kind of HR trot was that? Hilarious!

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 00:21 (three years ago)

Apparently a reference to the pitcher being his “baby”

calstars, Monday, 17 October 2022 00:51 (three years ago)

Yeah...Will have to check Josh Naylor's HBP totals.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 00:58 (three years ago)

Nothing to speak of--I wouldn't think pitchers would take to kindly to that.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 00:59 (three years ago)

Bob Costas and I, livin' in the past.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 01:12 (three years ago)

do pitchers really retaliate in elimination games?

frogbs, Monday, 17 October 2022 01:15 (three years ago)

No, I was thinking more in the regular season (if he indeed does that all time). Not in a playoff game, no.

Maybe it's a recent thing--his HBP did jump up this season.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 01:19 (three years ago)

Costas starting to look like a lesbian

calstars, Monday, 17 October 2022 01:23 (three years ago)

Cole throwing 98 mph on his 107th pitch

calstars, Monday, 17 October 2022 01:33 (three years ago)

I assume that anything off Judge's bat that looks like that is a HR.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 01:41 (three years ago)

There has been too much baseball so I cut the American Leauge but I love hearing Costas call baseball again

Bee OK, Monday, 17 October 2022 01:56 (three years ago)

Anyone but Buck is ok with me

calstars, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:00 (three years ago)

lol

Bee OK, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:00 (three years ago)

even going back to single-division leagues playing each other in a 7-game WS is a crapshoot.

arguably the best team wins the World Series every year bc MLB defines the “best” as the team that wins the World Series. if the “best” team was the team with the best regular season record, there would be no need for a postseason

I do think that, more years than not, you have to dispense with the idea that the WS winner is the best team.

these are missing the point, no one is arguing that the best regular season team needs to win the world series every year. outside of the dodgers' recent ownership of the league, how often is there even a clear cut "best" team in the league? the argument is that the winner of the world series most of the time should be among the best teams in the league. if you go back to a 2-team playoff field then an inferior team can still beat the superior team, but most year, the team that does win is among the best in the league either way. during the LCS years you'd occasionally have things like the twins winning the WS with 85 wins or the mets winning a pennant with 82 wins, but those were rare exceptions that proved the rule. the field was limited enough that no matter which team won the randomness award, it was usually guaranteed that the winner was one of the best in the league.
I'm fine with the way things are. Fact is, if an Astros/Yankees vs. Dodgers WS had been almost a sure thing, I probably wouldn't be watching now, and I'm getting quite caught up in the craziness.

it doesn't have to be weighted to the extent that astros/yankees vs dodgers would be a sure thing, and if the postseason were weighted to benefit the best teams then there would be a more interesting spread of teams at the top
or they try some crazy format like spotting 100-win teams a 1-0 advantage before the series even starts

that's not crazy at all, it's exactly what the union proposed and it's exactly the kind of thing that needs to be done with a massive playoff field.
This is not true for a 111 win team vs a 89 win team.

i don't get what you mean by this

, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:09 (three years ago)

As they've been saying all night, the Guardians should have the edge in a bullpen game tomorrow night, maybe even a big edge. All they have to overcome is Yankee Stadium, history, inexperience, and a few other things.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:13 (three years ago)

When I wrote "if an Astros/Yankees vs. Dodgers WS had been almost a sure thing," I wasn't talking about any kind of a weighting scheme; I was talking about baseball vs. basketball or hockey, where sure-thing teams usually win with great predictability.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:16 (three years ago)

(that is not at all the case with playoff hockey)

mookieproof, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:18 (three years ago)

i mean basketball is odd because you can literally have lebron shoot every shot if you really want to, but mike trout can never get more than four or five at-bats

in between is the hot hockey goalie, which has absolutely long been a factor

mookieproof, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:23 (three years ago)

Obviously, I'll defer to you on hockey, but hasn't the best team (or close) won the last three? I know St. Louis pulled a big upset the year before.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:24 (three years ago)

that's fair. but the fate of president's trophy winners (for best regular-season record) is pretty ugly

mookieproof, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:27 (three years ago)

also basketball is very much an offense vs. defense game whereas defense in the MLB doesn't really vary a whole lot. so a guy like LeBron & Giannis can literally affect every possession

frogbs, Monday, 17 October 2022 02:28 (three years ago)

They asked Cole about Naylor in the post-game conference. "Yeah (long pause; no actual eye-roll, but the pause achieved the same effect)...whatever."

As I said above, nobody's throwing at anybody right now, but I'd bet money someone on the Yankees filed that away for future reference.

clemenza, Monday, 17 October 2022 03:01 (three years ago)

When you’re making a million per game or whatever, just smile, shut up, and take your paycheck

calstars, Monday, 17 October 2022 03:03 (three years ago)

naylor's homer resulted in them still being down one run

at the risk of being a hater . . . at least save that until you're ahead

mookieproof, Monday, 17 October 2022 04:00 (three years ago)

Speaking as an avid Cleveland fan: the two main sports traumas of my childhood could have been avoided if the 1995 and 1996 Indians teams been awarded the championship after having had the best record in either league. (What a team 1995 was!) I harbored resentment for years. But clearly now the only way small-market teams can compete with big money is through a playoff system.

The Indians/Guardians are just completely allergic to winning playoff series at home, failing to clinch when they were up and had shots in the 1999 ALDS, 2007 ALCS, 2016 WS, and yesterday. A firm tradition of crapping the bed.

Sam Weller, Monday, 17 October 2022 09:03 (three years ago)

This is not true for a 111 win team vs a 89 win team.

i don't get what you mean by this
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I meant that if both teams play to their talent level (based on their win totals) then it would take far less than 75 games to establish (with high probability) which team is better.

Winning the WS is unlikely for any team, no matter how good they are, because of the number of rounds and teams. The Dodgers had maybe a 30 percent chance of winning the WS at the start of the playoffs, and the Astros 20-25 percent? So you have to take the field winning vs either of them, although their chances of winning were much higher than just about any other team.

I wouldn't want to overly manipulate the postseason to give the best teams more advantages. If the point is to game the system to crown the best regular season team most of the time then I don't see the point of having a playoff round. Just base it on regular season only, like European soccer.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:58 (three years ago)

What a night for an extended rain delay...Will probably still be watching at 1:30 a.m.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:40 (three years ago)

well there goes Cleveland’s supposed bullpen advantage

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:42 (three years ago)

That was three hours well spent.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:46 (three years ago)

will the guardians start bieber?

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:48 (three years ago)

also, tonight's tickets are good for tomorrow's game only, no refunds or exchanges, so if you sat in the rain for three hours tonight and don't have tomorrow afternoon off, you're screwed. (MLB makes these calls for postseason games, btw, not NYY)

Gates opened to fans at 5 pm. The Yankees and MLB announced at 6:20 pm that the scheduled 7pm game would start in a delay. There were no official updates between the announcement of the delay and the announcement of the postponement at 9:35 pm. Awful.

— Lindsey Adler (@lindseyadler) October 18, 2022

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 02:37 (three years ago)

Didn’t the same thing Happen thurs / Fri? I guess it’s easier to take off Friday than Tuesday

calstars, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 03:04 (three years ago)

will the guardians start bieber?

Checked his splits and he's never started on three days rest; also, better on five days rest than four by three-quarters of a run.

Doesn't mean they won't, though.

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 03:17 (three years ago)

The weather forecast in your area is not available due to blackout restrictions.

— Dryhelm 🦬 of the H-Town Guild (@Dryhelm) October 18, 2022

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 06:34 (three years ago)

RIP Guardos

brownie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:57 (three years ago)

it’s not great

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:59 (three years ago)

Not challenging that play at first?

Andy K, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:26 (three years ago)

That was safe!

barry sito (gyac), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:27 (three years ago)

Ugh

brownie, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:29 (three years ago)

If they end up scoring again & losing in a tight game…

barry sito (gyac), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:31 (three years ago)

I think it’s more like one baserunner in a 2 out situation early when u have a superior bullpen to restore order.

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:33 (three years ago)

It’s not like they had 2 guys on

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:33 (three years ago)

but what would have been the downside?? you have video guys poised for this stuff. were they taking a leak??

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:35 (three years ago)

extremely strange

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:36 (three years ago)

Even if nothing came of it you need to fight for your guys, no?

barry sito (gyac), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:37 (three years ago)

in the postseason you tend to need absolutely everything to break your way.. a missed opportunity like that feels the same as like, getting picked off first. establishes the wrong vibe

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:45 (three years ago)

I dunno man, Costas is really grating on me tonight. He’s so matter of fact and kind of won’t shut up

calstars, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:48 (three years ago)

“Second guesses are always better than first guesses”
THANKS FOR THAT

calstars, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:49 (three years ago)

Other than following Ramirez through the season, I didn't pay the least bit of attention to Cleveland all year. They've been so exciting the past couple of weeks, though, I feel lousy right now (and nothing at all to do with hating the Yankees, which I don't).

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 22:02 (three years ago)


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