Marcus Stroman won't stop tweeting; 2019 Vlad Guerrero Jr/Blue Jays thread

He's pitched in 29 MLB parks--every park except, yes, Wrigley.

I don't really have any strong feelings about this--pre-COVID, I was getting out to three or four games a year.

https://www.blogto.com/sports_play/2021/12/toronto-blue-jays-rogers-centre-upgrade/

Marcus Stroman won't stop tweeting.

Manclown and his boys need to figure it out and stop ruining the game of baseball. https://t.co/gfQz4ctQas

— Marcus Stroman (@STR0) February 6, 2022

I wonder if other players feel about Twitter Stroman like I felt when Madonna would let loose with some harebrained comment as Obama tried to make his way through a landmine during the 2008 election: please, just disappear for a few months.

(Hoping I can dodge the expected Madonna-love/Obama-antipathy such a post would be greeted with on ILX.)

RIP, Morbs

excellent dave stieb video

(48 minutes...part 1 of 4?!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlviajJlctQ

Will definitely take a look. Jays thread title circa 1985: "Dave Stieb Won't Stop Tweeting."

Jesse Says Relax

Jack Morris or Dave Stieb? https://t.co/CceTcM6f4V

— Jay Jaffe (@jay_jaffe) February 25, 2022

i can't believe that's supposed to be a 4 part series. incredible

lol

>Tom Collins
@TommyCollins99
Feb 25
Replying to
@jay_jaffe
Jack Morris

>Greg Thompson
@gregthompson07
Feb 25
Oh, Tom

Was looking for a famous birthday today to talk about on a supply job, and it's Joe Carter's 62nd.

All these rumours about Freeman are crazy. It makes such little sense. I doubt he’d want to DH full time - and moving Vlad back to 3b would be crazy. He’d be a great player to have if we didn’t already have an all star 1b and didn’t have needs elsewhere (3b/2b) that needed addressing.
Maybe they don’t want to give up the farm for Chapman, but is Bryant really that bad of a signing for 3b? Is Story or Correa as a 2b or SS and siding Bo over and then letting our spare parts play 3rd until (if) Groshans or Martinez are ready not a better option / use of money?

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/blue-jays-agree-on-contracts-for-vladimir-guerrero-jr-10-others-002410791.html

Vlad gets $7.9 million for one year. Not sure how that compares historically--going into his fourth year at 23, coming off an epic season--but I'm glad they avoided arbitration, never a good thing for future negotiations.

Fucking Pete Walker got a DUI last night. Along with doing like double the speed limit.
Fucking selfish asshole. He’s worked all kids of magic with our staff, past and present and now he fucking risks his job because he’s too fucking unless to call an Uber?!

OK what's the new thread named, cuz we need a new one

2022 Toronto Blue Jays - Chappy Bird Friends

not that though X^D

why did they take berrios out, i don't have sound on

Because of all the base runners.

This has been quite the game so far!

love the opening day bullpen game, very 2020s

Jays came back from down 7, Raptors came back from down 24.

raptors? it's like i don't even know you

I'm very indiscriminate in my bandwagonism--Leafs too right now.

(tbf i don't actually know you and also please carry on! auston matthews is awesome)

Oh Clem - I found all the fridge magnate calendars I had told you about! From 2006 (calendar has pics from the Burnett and Ryan signings lol) to 2014 with a couple years missing and then a Reds calendar too somehow.

Great--would still love to get them in a trade, will message you.

Those were two fine games, despite the starters not doing so great

pic.twitter.com/rjlw3z5J9o

— No Context Blue Jays (@No_Context_Jays) April 9, 2022

AL Cy Young obviously just a formality this year...Don't think I appreciated how really good Manoah was last year--should have finished much higher than 8th for ROY (maybe fourth).

bleacher report had his as their darkhorse Cy winner!!

This should have been obvious, but it made me laugh anyway: start to google "Vladimir," and auto-correct fills in Putin first, Vladdy second. Sorry, famous Russian writer, your time has passed.

VLAD

what a game

Before the game today, Buck Martinez announced he had cancer (didn't specify what kind) and would be off the broadcasts for a while.

I placed a $100 bet today online that Manoah would win the Cy Young. The payout would be $1,600...If I had any nerve, I would have bet $1,000, but I don't and I didn't.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/blue-jays-broadcaster-buck-martinez-leaving-tv-booth-following-cancer-diagnosis-1.5864738

Ya, sad news about Buck. Wishing him the best, and also your $100 bet!! (I love Alek, but if I had to bet on a young arm winning the Cy, I’d go with McClanahan)

… tho Manoah will get more innings and more shots at QS

The odds were so good; it's probably close to unheard of to get 16-1 on a guy who was actually picked by a name publication to win (was it Bleacher Report?).

I may have posted about this before, but I've been amazed at times by Buck's ability to call a play or an outcome in advance and have it turn out exactly as he predicted (and not make a big deal of it afterwards). I know he's got the usual array of flaws, but I think he does have a good understanding of the game.

Sad news about Buck.

Does anybody know what were the preseason odds on Ray winning the CY last year? I'm trying to get some perspective on this 16-1 number for Manoah.

Ya, bleacher report was the “publication”!

My guess is the odds on Ray winning were much longer than that. The difference to me, though, is that Ray kind of came out of the blue; he was coming off a season where he only pitched 50 innings (injury? can't remember) and had been traded to a new league. He had a very good 2017, but that was three years ago. Manoah was excellent in 2021, and might have won ROY with more innings--he feels like a legitimate candidate, whereas I don't know if anyone was talking up Ray last spring. Here are the current odds from one site:

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/mlb/cy-young-odds/

This is the first time I've paid attention to this, so it's just intuition and guess work--wasn't even on my radar until I heard those odds the radio yesterday, and my brother-in-law knew how to place the bet.

Found their 2021 Cy Young chart:

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/mlb/2021-cy-young-odds/

If I'm reading it correctly, Ray isn't even listed till midway through the season.

Duh--if you hover your cursor over the 2021 graph, you can get the odds on a given day. So on July 28, Robbie Ray was +4750, almost three times the +1600 I got with Manoah. Going back to his game logs for 2021, Ray's record as of July 27 (he started against the Red Sox on July 28):

8-5, 3.12, 112.1 IP, 91 hits, 142 K, 27 BB

Cole's record on July 27:

10-5, 2.74, 125 IP, 95 hits, 166 K, 26 BB

Cole has a definite edge, but that seems reasonably close--betting $100 at that point and getting a potential 47-1 payoff definitely a better bet than what I just made. (I can't remember who else was contending at that point...I never took Ohtani that serious as a Cy Young contender because of his IP.) But betting Ray in mid-April, no matter what the odds, I think I made the better bet. Ray the rest of the way in 2021:

5-2, 2.44, 81 IP, 59 hits, 106 K, 25 BB

My first-ever post about a tag, I think: the one that Chapman just made was brilliant.

is a new golden era for blue jays fans? team seems like they could be in the WS, and also a ton of fun players!

sorry for typos there, but you get the gist

It’s ok. We’re all very excited.

I know things even out, but today's loss was bad--they should have scored more than one in the top of the 10th.

i was a little disappointed at the end there, but i had to remember: I'd already kind of written off the game before the comeback, they still took the series and Romano's save streak was fucking epic.

I was skeptical of Gausman before the season, just because he was a guy who seemed to come out of nowhere at the age of 30. I see now he had a couple of pretty good season with the Orioles. Anyway, he's looked really impressive. Everything's down around the knees. Still hasn't walked a batter over 24.2 innings.

he's looked amazing so far. have to say better than i expected.

God I love Manoah starts.