shohei ohtani alert

damn

42-pitch second inning -> shower -> MRI

strained something pronator, no more pitching this year

2-2, BB
4IP 1ER 2BB 5K

Something more than a trivial occurrence:

twitter.com/Angels/status/1386713631207792642

94 at eye-level

"Oh my goodness. OH MY goodness. Shohei Ohtani..." #WeBelieve pic.twitter.com/FNAcTDiXO3

— Justin Groc (@jgroc) May 18, 2021

Don’t think you’re meant to be able to do that

god I would fuckin hate pitching to that guy

whoa

So sad to think he won't make the post-season.

his velo is way way down tonight

I'm reading 89 mph fastballs?

he's throwing up to 95 now in the 4th

2 HRs tonight (Angels are down by 5)

a pittsburgher i follow drove to nyc specifically to see ohtani tonight and lol

2 more HRs tonight

I would never in a million years bet on Ohtani having the season he’s having right now.

Folks need to stop comparing Shohei Ohtani to Babe Ruth

Shohei Ohtani is the first Shohei Ohtani

Nobody’s ever done what he’s done in a half season, and it’s somehow still not getting enough media coverage https://t.co/cGY2CzpeUn

— joon 이준엽 (@joonlee) July 8, 2021

I agree that there aren't enough superlatives to describe what he's doing.

However, when it comes to Ohtani, there can never be enough comparisons to Babe Ruth. Babe f'n Ruth!!

The need for the angels to make the playoffs only grows more and more urgent

when is he a free agent? he will be an LA dodger or a boston red sock or a new york motherfucker in a couple years

yea he seems like one of those players who could singlehandedly rescue the sport but having him play on the West Coast on a team that's 4th in their division sucks. crazy if the Angels miss the playoffs yet again despite having 2 generational talents on their team

it's a team sport

which consists 95% of moments of individual skill

this is one of the hardest hit balls I've ever seen

Ohtani to the MOON. 😳 pic.twitter.com/BeZ3Ek9gF6

— MLB (@MLB) July 10, 2021

fucking absurd man

I don't know about you but I cannot see the ball post-impact with Ohtani's bat. I think he hit it so hard it disintegrated into fucking quarks.

you can just briefly see it shoot straight up, it kind of looks like the 600-foot pop up from Major League

463 feet

It feels like he should be more talked about.

Not here, but in media generally.

watching so many people discover Giannis even though he's been 2x MVP kinda tells me you need some playoff success for that to happen

Thinking about DiMaggio's streak and Richard's 50 in 50, I have the feeling we used to have national conversations about specific athlete in a way we don't anymore? Maybe I'm wrong. But it seems conversations about sports are much more macro and/or focused on the past (how much can we still create content around Michael Jordan, I'm certain more people are aware of Jeter than of Trout or Ohtani).

tom pagnozzi

haha, mais encore?

...

matt pagnozzi :(

ohtani is the first player to be named AL Player of the month in back to back months (June and July) since josh hamilton in 2012

40 HR, 2.79 ERA

Angels are still .500 though

that’s fucking crazy

this season is historic

Orange County doesn’t deserve this dude

i honestly would never have expected him to have a season like this. just did not think this was possible.

well it's never been done before!

What a joy this guy is

he's on pace to make the top 10 single season WAR list, which is basically all guys like Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds, plus those insane Yaz & Hornsby seasons

there are a bunch of guys having monster seasons and he’s 2 wins ahead of them

even though ppl, like, intuitively understand this, it's still an under discussed story that the angels have had one of the greatest baseball players in 100+ years on their team for a decade, and now have an international superstar putting up one of the greatest seasons in 100+ years... and still LITERALLY CANNOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS MORE THAN ONE TIME!!! you can make a very reasonable argument that this fact alone has contributed to baseball's decline as a national interest and cultural phenomenon. you could also make a very reasonable argument that it's in the best interest of baseball to forcibly remove arte moreno as owner and find someone who could maybe run a franchise in LA w/ 2 of the best players in baseball and get them into the playoffs, like, one time before the world implodes. it's not asking for much!

its a uniquely frustrating scenario...idk if the Angels ownership/management just sucks but I can't really point to a single thing they've done over the last decade that's worked, outside of maybe the trade for Andrelton Simmons. they also happened to grab those two players during the years where they knew Pujols was gonna be an albatross - they signed him knowing full well that they were likely going to be punting the last 4-5 years. they've also had a lot of bad luck - Trout's hurt, Rendon's hurt, they just cannot seem to develop a decent pitcher who doesn't overdose on fentanyl. its a shitty situation and I agree its bad for the game.

they give big free agent contracts to older and/or injury prone players and rarely have homegrown talent, it's a really bad mix that comes from the top down. josh hamilton contract was a disaster, rendon contract isn't looking much better. they haven't had a good pitcher since like jered weaver. it's just a poorly run franchise.

they actually have some younger talent now... jo adell has looked good recently, brandon marsh is a top 50 prospect tho he flopped after being called up. reid detmers is finally a pitching prospect they have. if they had a healthy trout, rendon, ohtani, plus a good season from adell, and made some additions, found some pitchers.... it's still so many ifs. and trout is at the point now where he's prob more of a 130-140 game player -- at best -- than a 160 or 180 game player. the fact that they're 5.5 games worse than the mariners this year is insane.

it’s a team sport

i wonder if any other team's management would have done anything differently about the "pujols problem", especially the 2017-now version of the problem. i guess it's easier said than done to bench him, because he truly always believes he's about to turn the corner and is vocal about it. i guess they just couldn't face the spectacle of releasing him years early and eating the cost?

i mean, i think the marlins would have done something drastic for some reason. and the padres. although they haven't exactly done anything about their "eric hosmer problem"

Someone who knows ball: analyse this for me

3rd TJ coming soon

Fp'd

lol guilty as charged ;-)

https://apnews.com/article/shohei-ohtani-lawsuit-hawaii-development-eee60fe3a5aaa467554ee3e388f6f06a

Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani and agent accused of sabotaging $240M Hawaii real estate project

A Hawaii real estate investor and broker are suing Shohei Ohtani, claiming the Los Angeles Dodgers star and his agent got them fired from a $240 million luxury housing development on the Big Island’s coveted Hapuna Coast that they brought him in to endorse.

According to the lawsuit filed in Hawaii Circuit Court on Friday, Ohtani’s agent, Nez Balelo, increasingly demanded concessions from developer Kevin J. Hayes Sr. and real estate broker Tomoko Matsumoto before demanding that their business partner, Kingsbarn Realty Capital, drop them from the deal.

No twitter links please.

S. Ohtani lined into triple play, D. Rushing out, M. Rojas out

https://www.mlb.com/video/brock-burke-in-play-out-s-to-shohei-ohtani-rgcpot

Shohei Ohtani is an amazing case study. Imagine the diabolical things Michael Jordan would get into if he could pretend he didn’t speak English

because we’re apparently afraid of twitter links

also homers in the 9th for the lead!

because we’re apparently afraid of twitter links

― brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, August 12, 2025 9:14 PM (yesterday)

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if you don't like it, please go post on twitter, 4chan, r/teslaowners or somewhere else you're more comfortable. :-)

he (& yosh) ate at my neighborhood sushi bar last night!

& HSKim!

Shohei is the first dodger with 100 walks in 25 years (Gary Sheffield was the last)

ohtani FACT:

despite pitching only 47 innings, his first game back being june 16, he ended up with 1.9 fWAR from pitching alone.

for comparison, aroldis chapman ended up with with 2.6 fWAR in 61.1 innings. that was roughly ohtani’s pace: in 61.1 innings, he would have ended up with 2.47 fWAR

comparing WAR is kinda silly too, over reliever-span sample sizes! but ohtani pitched this year, it was roughly at a chapman level

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https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ohtansh01.shtml

Any idea why baseball reference has Ohtani's contract as 10 yrs/$282.17M ???? Surely inflation isn't more than halving his contract over 10 years. What am I missing?

i think it's the present day value of the $70MM (as in how much it counts on the dodgers payroll) - spotrac has it at the same https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id/24661/shohei-ohtani

https://i.postimg.cc/hG4dtPHC/ogtb.jpg

jesus christ

Can confirm

we don't use his real name in this thread

only 1 HR in the last 4 weeks.

In that span his ISO & SLG have both dropped over 100 points, OPS has dropped from 944 to 814.

Only two batters (Judge, Schwarber) have more MLB home runs than Shohei Ohtani since Shohei's MLB debut.

Only one pitcher (deGrom) has a lower ERA (500+ innings) than Shohei Ohtani since Shohei's MLB debut.

I ran these through fangraphs, Ohtani's #9 in batting fWAR and #43 in pitching fWAR since 3/2018 (MLB debut).

For pitching Ohtani has accrued <1/2 the fWAR of the elite 3: Wheeler, deGrom, Cole.

For total fWAR, Judge still has Ohtani beat to the tune of 55.2 to 51.7 (since Ohtani's debut, Judge has another 8.7 fWAR from his first 2 seasons).

are those stats good?

would you go so far as to say that they're impressive?

i mean yes those stats were cherry picked . . . but nevertheless unprecedented

this guy is doing absolutely crazy baseball shit, and while i value your perspective i must question whether you are being a devil's advocate or a h8r

bWAR per start since 2018:

Cole - 0.167
Ohtani - 0.169
Wheeler - 0.175
DeGrom - 0.205

maybe it's living here (California) where EVERYBODY considers Ohtani the greatest player ~ever~, i am simply pointing out that he's not even the greatest (ie fWAR-est) player of his generation.

and despite Judge being from here (California/Northern California), not a single soul ever talks about Judge in even the same breath.

yes while cherrypicked pitching rate stats can be cool in a fantasy/videogame worldview, Ohtani's been nowhere near as durable as Cole/Wheeler... DeGrom? I'll save that for another thread lol.