Kinda thinkin' that if the A's hadn't been one of the worst teams in the AL for the past 3 seasons that there'd be more momentum behind this picture. This current season is pretty much the nail in the coffin for the Moneyball fallacy imo. I guess they could switch teams to the Red Sox and call it Fever Pitch 2: The Jamesian Prophecies.
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 22 June 2009 14:37 (sixteen years ago)
of course, the A's current record has absolutlely fucking nothing to do with the validity of Beane's approach in the period the book covers, an approach that's generally embraced to some degree by nearly every MLB team.
Obv a Hollywood studio wants a feelgood Big Game sports movie for the droolers. Maybe one about Ryan Ludwick's current MVP season, right Steve?
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 22 June 2009 14:46 (sixteen years ago)
I'm still trying to figure out the $50M price tag.― Alex in SF, Monday, June 22, 2009 10:27 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
― Alex in SF, Monday, June 22, 2009 10:27 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
it's all a publicity stunt, now soderbergh will make it sex, lies, and videotape style for only $5 million
― sanskrit, Monday, 22 June 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)
How to make $45M disappear from budget: scrap animated Bill James, replace with James Murphy in fat suit/beard.
― Stacey Pollen (Andy K), Monday, 22 June 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)
What else?
― Stacey Pollen (Andy K), Monday, 22 June 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)
Don't use MLB, but instead completely make up team names/jerseys/et all. Like the Philadelphia A's or the Boston Braves.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 22 June 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)
dont use MLB, but instead make it about a made-up sport
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 22 June 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)
shoot it on-location in steven soderbergh's living room
Change it to badminton, call it Moneybirdie, and have Brad Pitt stop everything every few minutes to wink broadly at the camera.
― Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Monday, 22 June 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)
i would love to see the dykstra footage tbh
― govern yourself accordingly, Monday, 22 June 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)
just have Dykstra shoot the whole thing a la Jack Black in Be Kind Rewind.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 22 June 2009 21:28 (sixteen years ago)
pretty sure I couldn't bear to watch that tbh
― Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Monday, 22 June 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)
so it wouldnt be that different from soderbergs last couple movies
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 22 June 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.icecoldservice.com/images/ics-jpeg.jpg
― ramón gastro (omar little), Monday, 22 June 2009 22:01 (sixteen years ago)
Heh
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/The-Moneyball-script-complete-with-Billy-Beane-;_ylt=AicSLxT7AbWq4uwuWmKz9UARvLYF?urn=mlb,172463
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 23:20 (sixteen years ago)
heh2
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)
I hate anachronistic screenwriters...
You didn't have to take off your shoes at the Oakland airport until after the shoe bomber Richard Reid (sp?)... I want to say xmas 2001. Does anyone fact check scripts anymore?
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 25 June 2009 00:09 (sixteen years ago)
fuck bitches
eat bloomin onions
― (╬ ಠ益ಠ) (cankles), Thursday, 25 June 2009 00:57 (sixteen years ago)
from the comments:Billy Beane once got busy in a Burger King bathroom.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:00 (sixteen years ago)
I've been reading this screenplay on and off all day, and I can say with some certainty that the movie would've been boring as hell.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)
Well this was the non-doctored version. I'm sure Che-ized version would've rocked!
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:24 (sixteen years ago)
i think probly less boring than INKLORIUS BESTERDS
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 26 June 2009 06:07 (sixteen years ago)
I'd rather skip both of them, honestly.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 26 June 2009 08:24 (sixteen years ago)
"i think probly less boring than INKLORIUS BESTERDS"
I think that looks fun enough, but I don't expect you to agree.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 26 June 2009 15:56 (sixteen years ago)
only if Cloris Leachman's role is a reprise of Frau Blucher.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 26 June 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)
It very well might be.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 26 June 2009 16:04 (sixteen years ago)
Oooh look three Spielberg films are in production/been announced. Better go anticipate the hell out of those pieces of shit.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 26 June 2009 16:08 (sixteen years ago)
take it to ILE ladies
― (╬ ಠ益ಠ) (cankles), Saturday, 27 June 2009 01:02 (sixteen years ago)
aint sayin shit here.
anyway:
http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/2009/06/what-happened-tomoneyball.html
"The biggest faux-pas is the handling of the all-important 'on-base percentage' stat. This is what the Oakland A's figured out that no one else did -- the hidden statistic which is the key to their success. It's what allows them to compete with half the salary of all the other teams. This is the movie. Yet here it's treated like an afterthought.
"In fact, I couldn't even tell you what the A's secret to success was in Soderbergh's draft. It's implied that there's a spreadsheet involved but the explanation stops there. A spreadsheet of never-explained numbers? That's how the team wins? That's your hook for the movie?"
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 27 June 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)
Both of these sound awful.
― Alex in SF, Saturday, 27 June 2009 02:44 (sixteen years ago)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgerthoughts/2009/07/moneyball-movie-is-back-on.html
― Stacey Pollen (Andy K), Thursday, 9 July 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)
so now the movie will be LAME
― Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 10 July 2009 12:49 (sixteen years ago)
che was so fucken wack. with sorkin on board all they need to do now is ditch soderBOREgh and pitt and that's the movie right there.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Friday, 10 July 2009 12:53 (sixteen years ago)
Making Moneyball into a movie has got to be one of the worst ideas of all time.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 13 July 2009 00:28 (sixteen years ago)
Team 2009 payrollNew York Yankees $201,449,189New York Mets $149,373,987Chicago Cubs $134,809,000Boston Red Sox $121,745,999Detroit Tigers $115,085,145Los Angeles Angels $113,709,00Philadelphia Phillies $113,004,046Houston Astros $102,996,414Los Angeles Dodgers $100,414,592Seattle Mariners $98,904,166Atlanta Braves $96,726,166Chicago White Sox $96,068,500San Francisco Giants $82,616,450Cleveland Indians $81,579,166Toronto Blue Jays $80,538,300Milwaukee Brewers $80,182,502St. Louis Cardinals $77,605,109Colorado Rockies $75,201,000 Cincinnati Reds $73,558,500Arizona Diamondbacks $73,516,666Kansas City Royals $70,519,333Texas Rangers $68,178,798Baltimore Orioles $67,101,666Minnesota Twins $65,299,266Tampa Bay Rays $63,313,034Oakland Athletics $62,310,000Washington Nationals $60,328,000Pittsburgh Pirates $48,693,000San Diego Padres $43,734,200Florida Marlins $36,834,000
― Change Display Name: (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:19 (sixteen years ago)
Moneyball II should be about the Marlins.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:29 (sixteen years ago)
Astros holy shit. Drayton McLane needs a refund on his money.
― mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)
imagine how much Dan will hate the A's next year, when they're good again.
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)
shit got heated
― velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)
I don't want to speak for Dan but you really think the A's are gonna have a good year next year?
Here is how Moneyball fits into the A's decadeOakland A's win/loss/%/notes2000 91W-70L .565 ALW Pennant - ALDS loss2001 102W-60L .630 ALWC - ALDS loss2002 103W-59L .636 ALW Pennant - ALDS loss2003 96W-66L .593 ALW Pennant - ALDS loss*** MONEY BALL PUBLISHED ***2004 91W-71L .562 2nd in ALW 2005 88W- 74L .543 2nd in ALW 2006 93W-69L .574 ALW Pennant - ALCS loss2007 76W- 86L .469 3rd in ALW 2008 75W- 86L .466 3rd in ALW2009 75W-83L .475 4th in ALW
― Change Display Name: (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)
I think they'll have a good year next year, sure.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)
by good, do you mean better/improved (ie, 80-85 wins?)
or do you mean like, good/contending (90-95 wins?)
just curious... I mean Rajai Davis is their best player right?
― Change Display Name: (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
they're about 2 or 3 good hitters away from that i'd say
chris carter could be one of them
― extremely demanding on the hardware (ciderpress), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)
"or do you mean like, good/contending (90-95 wins?)"
It's entirely possible. They've got a lot of good offensive young talent. Pretty sure the teams immediately prior 1999 weren't much worse than A's were this year and they managed to turn it around pretty quickly.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:54 (sixteen years ago)
It's not like their R/RA was that bad this year actually. Their Pythag W/L was about .500.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 1 October 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)
"Shasta" expects the Marlins to win 102
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 October 2009 07:40 (sixteen years ago)
Drunk posting again Morbs?
tbf, I see a hell of a lot more young talent on the Marlins than I do on the A's.
The A's have had six years of promising young, offensive talent that has been frankly, pretty fucking offensive. What was the last trade that went "right" for the A's? Jack Cust?
― ♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 2 October 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)
Uh the Haren trade still looks pretty good right now. As does the Swisher deal.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 2 October 2009 16:04 (sixteen years ago)
"The A's have had six years of promising young, offensive talent that has been frankly, pretty fucking offensive."
It's not been a good run, I'll admit.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 2 October 2009 16:05 (sixteen years ago)
When your best homegrown position has been Nick Swisher or Kurt Suzuki you def need a lot of help and the A's haven't gotten it.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 2 October 2009 16:06 (sixteen years ago)