Mike Trout needs his own thread

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lolll

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:05 (seven years ago)

How exactly is the $10M/WAR number calculated? I always see these kinds of numbers but am never completely sure where they come from. Two win players are definitely not getting $20M/yr on the open market now. I'm assuming they look at every current player who signed via free agency and are calculating the average WAR they've put up over the length of their contract.

For example, take Albert Pujols' contract, he's making $24M/yr and he's averaged about 1.5 WAR/yr (I'm estimating) over the seven years of his contract, so that's $16M per win per year. Factor in all free agents in the same way, and you get to $10M/WAR.

If this is how it's done, I'm not sure I buy it. Is inflation taken into account? What about players who sign extensions that buy out their free agent years? Fewer big stars even reach free agency, and you could argue that the lesser players that do are increasingly overpaid, which makes WAR more expensive on the open market. etc.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:40 (seven years ago)

leg cramp!

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26383539/trout-suffers-leg-cramp-escapes-serious-injury

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2019 11:43 (seven years ago)

holy cow I missed that massive contract he signed, goof on him

frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2019 13:43 (seven years ago)

"I got a good raspberry," he said with a laugh

michael

"But it's all good now. I'm fine. Other than that, I got a strawberry. That's it."

MICHAEL

WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING IT DIFFERENT BERRIES

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:05 (seven years ago)

a raspberry is a Bronx cheer, he should know that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 March 2019 17:53 (seven years ago)

Trout just had one of the best series by anyone, ever. He was 6-for-11 with five HRs and six walks -- contributing to a 2.631 OPS, the third-highest by anyone in a four-game series in MLB history (min. 15 PA).

The highest ever was 3.111 by Babe Ruth in June of 1921 against the Tigers. He was 8-for-12 with six HRs and six walks in that series at the Polo Grounds. He also started and won a game on the mound in that series, striking out Ty Cobb.

The second-highest OPS ever was 2.850 by Mickey Mantle in July of 1962 against the A's, as he launched five HRs and walked six times.

mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 13:06 (seven years ago)

christ

k3vin k., Monday, 8 April 2019 13:32 (seven years ago)

i watched most of the 2-HR game the other night, and like mookieproof i have no idea why anyone pitches to him given that lineup

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:53 (seven years ago)

AL player of the week for the first time since july 2015 (?!?)

mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:49 (seven years ago)

that does not seem possible

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:50 (seven years ago)

TIE for #91, i repeat, TIE for #91

https://i.imgur.com/sA61B56.jpg
(tie) 91. Captain Beefheart - Frownland (1:39)
0.3672 points
5 votes

https://i.imgur.com/YqsqlKS.jpg
(tie) 91. Napalm Death - You Suffer (0:02)
0.3672 points
8 votes

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:56 (seven years ago)

the beefheart song is the first song on the countdown that i officially do not like

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:57 (seven years ago)

i have been getting into earlier beefheart recently, actually. but i do not understand what people are hearing in frownland

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:57 (seven years ago)

but beefheart wouldn't be beefheart if there weren't a bunch of people on the side going "i don't know what people are hearing in this", so i'm just playing the role

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:58 (seven years ago)

um

i am sorry

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:00 (seven years ago)

btw you all should check out this poll over here, it's great

Top 120 Songs Under 120 Seconds (ILM Poll #95)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:01 (seven years ago)

I thought it was maybe a “trout” mask replica thing

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:01 (seven years ago)

Trout, Mike - replica jersey

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:10 (seven years ago)

he's so hot right now that he literally opened a wormhole in this thread

frogbs, Monday, 8 April 2019 19:11 (seven years ago)

trout mask replica was my keeper league team name for a while, but nobody got it. i changed it to mike 'ehrman' trout.

to halve and half not (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:12 (seven years ago)

this is my punishment for never getting around to voting

mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2019 19:13 (seven years ago)

:-(

2019 injury roll/discussion

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 04:32 (seven years ago)

seems like it’s minor, thankfully

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:22 (seven years ago)

WAR is live on our site and (no surprise) Mike Trout leads the majors

His 1.8 WAR in 12 games would pro-rate to 24.3 WAR in the course of a full 162-game season pic.twitter.com/b2DrrKI6l4

— Baseball Reference (@baseball_ref) April 10, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 16:43 (seven years ago)

Trout Neck Replica

Andy K, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 23:51 (seven years ago)

Mike Trout Walk Rate by season since 2014:
2019 - 26.5%
2018 - 20.1%
2017 - 18.5%
2016 - 17.0%
2015 - 13.5%
2014 - 11.8%

Teams are getting smarter apparently.

— Daren Willman (@darenw) April 11, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 April 2019 16:08 (seven years ago)

at this rate his 2030 season will feature four at-bats

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:57 (seven years ago)

As with Bonds, though, is there not a threshold where you're now walking the player too often?

clemenza, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:55 (seven years ago)

well he's slugging .938 so far, so it doesn't quite make sense to walk him . . . but it's pretty close

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:01 (seven years ago)

if there's RISP i imagine a .938 looks very walkable!

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:06 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

This is the setup Mike Trout gets on a 3-0 count in a tie game pic.twitter.com/xj91tTRCj1

— David Adler (@_dadler) April 25, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 26 April 2019 20:48 (seven years ago)

Is Trout's drastically reduced strikeout rate--31 games, 16 K (against 31 BB)--an early-season fluke or a conscious change in his approach?

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:23 (seven years ago)

...or a conscious change in opposing pitchers' approach? He's on track to log 33 IBB's this season (previous high 25).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:25 (seven years ago)

Is Trout's drastically reduced strikeout rate--31 games, 16 K (against 31 BB)--an early-season fluke or a conscious change in his approach?

― clemenza, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 8:23 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

honestly haven’t watched much of him this year but he struck out like twice in his first dozen or so games, so I’d bet he’s regressing back to near his normal mean

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:01 (seven years ago)

four weeks pass...

attack trout on the outside outside outside corner, it’s the only way

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 16:44 (seven years ago)

it’s cool that he makes contact with 100% of the pitches thrown at his face

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:21 (seven years ago)

great article btw, don’t think I recognize the writer

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 June 2019 18:39 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

Ben Lindbergh:

Because he’s stopped swinging at the toughest pitches to hit but still attacks the fat ones—Baseball Savant says he’s swung at 80 percent of deliveries down the middle, his highest rate in the five-season Statcast era—Trout has also kept increasing his contact rates to new seasonal highs, even as the league’s contact rate has continued to decline.

https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/6/21/18700398/mike-trout-los-angeles-angels-playoffs-war-mediocrity-500-record

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 June 2019 20:30 (six years ago)

this fucking guy.

― mookieproof, Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:09 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink

omar little, Monday, 8 July 2019 00:31 (six years ago)

Having a huge game.

clemenza, Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:22 (six years ago)

While wearing Tyler Skaggs’ #45, Mike Trout hits a 454 foot home run pic.twitter.com/nsjJicTKLu

— Baseball Quotes (@BaseballQuotes1) July 13, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 July 2019 05:28 (six years ago)

I somehow managed not to notice anything else about the game while posting about Trout.

clemenza, Saturday, 13 July 2019 06:17 (six years ago)

that was quite the performance.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 13 July 2019 06:52 (six years ago)

Temporarily joining Ruth, Bonds, Greenberg, Foxx, Williams, Gehrig, Hornsby in the 1.000 OPS club.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:00 (six years ago)

I noticed that too the other day. I don't think it'll be that temporary, though, if you look at his career progression (new career highs four years running)--I could see him still being there three years from now.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:37 (six years ago)

Another way, I guess, of saying he'll breeze right past the notion of peaking at 27. Of course, I guessed wrong with Pujols when he headed over to the Angels.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:39 (six years ago)

Pujols was already having tons of problems with his foot before he left the Cardinals, even, and was much less of a complete, well-rounded player than Trout is. I wouldn't make any bets on Trout putting up 1.000 OPS in a few years, but he seems like he has a much better chance of it than anyone

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:50 (six years ago)

also he has the advantage of a juiced ball

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:04 (six years ago)


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