i for one applaud the padres for this giant contract, let's get these players paid
idk if they'll be any good (they prob still won't lol) and it's never fun to watch a decent hitter go to petco but i appreciate their paying the guy what he deserves unlike these other vampires
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link
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― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link
Machado's a great player, possibly historically great--with some obvious baggage re his temperament--but have the Padres ever been a really successful, financially sound organization? I know they made a couple of WS (in years when there were better NL teams). They've basically tied their hands for the foreseeable future, and they're not particularly close at the moment. And if they don't win soon, Machado will start complaining.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
typical Padres
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
we see you Cameron
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
padres are in an interesting situation as the only (i believe) MLB team without direct NFL/NBA/NHL competition. they currently have the best/deepest set of prospects in the game. machado's contract takes their payroll from something like $70m to something like $100m, which won't crack the top 20 and is less than half of the top spenders.
i wouldn't call signing one of the top 10 players in the game 'tying their hands' but rather making an aggressive move at the right time. one that teams like the pirates and white sox never seem to have the stomach for.
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
Cubs weren't successful until they were. Obviously, the Padres believe that right now the core of young players is good enough to patch holes with free agents and thinking about seriously competing in 2020. World series appearances in decades past are no indication of anything at all.
xxxpost to Clem
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link
if machado cared about winning soon, he would've signed with a team further along in their development, so i don't think he's going to complain about that
― na (NA), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link
i could be wrong – but he doesn't seem like the type to let silly facts like that stop him from being a douche.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link
To be fair most teams who are further along in their development seem to be quite content with their shortstop situation.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link
lotsa douches have helped win pennants
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:24 (five years ago) link
Machado's deal is only $9M less than the $309M that the Padres spent on free agents in the past 25 offseasons combined.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link
don't almost all teams have billion dollar tv contracts now? now the padres have only $700M of their tv money left to spend over the next 10 years (or whatever, I'm making these numbers up but you get the idea)
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link
There's that, and almost every team is at least tens of millions of dollars below the luxury tax threshold, so literally 20+ teams can't complain about having no chance with top tier free agents.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link
san diego is the eighth-largest city and 17th-largest metro area in the usa, it should hardly be considered a 'small market' anyway
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:32 (five years ago) link
they currently have the best/deepest set of prospects in the game
I don't keep up well with farm systems. If that's true, then the move makes a lot more sense.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link
their system is insane.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:08 (five years ago) link
their rotation, as currently constructed, is pretty bad. i mean i love joey lucchesi but not as a no. 1 starter. but they could still afford keuchel or gio and they have the prospects to trade for kluber or whomever
(it would be total bullshit for the indians to trade kluber, but that doesn't mean they won't)
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link
Yeah, if their infield is like Mejia-Hosmer-Urias-Tatis-Machado by 2020, and those three youngsters play as good as hoped, they could have an incredibly potent lineup (and afaik they're all considered at least defensively capable if not above average?). Urias was doing something like .300/.400/.500 at AAA? and mejia iirc broke the record for most games hitting streak in the minors, hit safely in something absurd like 60 games. and of course tatis is tatis, maybe the most hyped prospect not named Vlad or Eloy in 2019.
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link
50 games, not 60, but still wild
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link
Mejia-Hosmer-Urias-Tatis-Machado by 2020
glaring weakspot with hosmer, though. they really shit the bed with that one
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link
he's only 29 and he already plays like late-period pujols every other year
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link
still above-average defensively, which is something, plus virtually all 1Bs are bad right now somehow
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link
wait no i think i am fucking him up with someone else... he is... bad defensively?
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link
you'd be forgiven for thinking he was good defensively, because he somehow got gold gloves in 2013-15 and again in 2017.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:30 (five years ago) link
hosmer's doing a latter-day brett saberhagen thing where he's only good in odd years, so they should be solid for '19 and '21
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link
according to fangraphs, he was 10th worst defensive 1B in the American League in 2017, out of 12 qualifying players.
and if you expand it American League 1B from 2013-2017, the years during which he won 4 gold gloves, he was the very worst fielding first basemen out of 10 qualifying players.
the gold gloves are as predictive of merit as winning a grammy
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link
one plus thing on the machado deal that i didn't think of - he'll most likely be at 3B once tatis jr comes up, which will increase his value
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link
wouldn't moving his bat from ss decrease his value?
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:14 (five years ago) link
He’s better at 3B iirc?
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link
padres have the best system
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― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link
Plenty of good 1b I shall not stand there and have the names of Votto and Goldschmidt insulted.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 00:55 (five years ago) link
May work out well, but the thing with the Padres and 90% of all teams is that a move like that can't not work out. There's not much margin of error. The Yankees and Red Sox and Dodgers can make big, expensive mistakes and it's no big deal--they just throw more money around. Other teams can't.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:10 (five years ago) link
that's true (although i think many of those teams *can* actually afford to make mistakes and are pretending otherwise)
but i think machado is probably about as sure a thing as is possible. he's really good, and at the end of his contract he'll be younger than robinson cano is right now
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link
It's nuts. When he has the option to opt out in 5 years he will be Cano's age when he signed his mega-contract.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:31 (five years ago) link
i think the padres could have afforded to make a mistake with machado, but not so much after making mistakes on hosmer and wil myers (although those were smaller mistakes). but if something goes wrong with machado, they're going to have a roster of really cheap star young players weighed down by three big long contracts. on the other hand, if machado performs as expected, hosmer is odd-year hosmer, and wil myers bounces back at all over the next few years, their lineup is going to be pretty scary
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:52 (five years ago) link
I assume that Harper will now sign somewhere for $310M, giving him and Boras the satisfaction of having won the off-season. But I'd prefer having Machado over Harper at that price, and it's not even close.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 06:44 (five years ago) link
I would prefer Machado if I were a manager or perhaps even a GM. But as an owner or the marketing department it would be Harper all the way; and I think it counts.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 13:29 (five years ago) link
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i said virtually! there used to be like 15 of em but now it's like... votto, goldschmidt, freddie... rizzo is ok but not as good as he was... olson? bellinger for like half the season?
far cry from when you had miggy, pujols, teixeira, cdavis, edwin, agonz, and a bunch of those above guys all crushing it (although who knows maybe i'm just conflating every year from the past 10 years)
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link
bryce is gonna sign with the cubs. all the "we don't have any money!" stuff is a smokescreen
― na (NA), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link
which team's helmet will bryce remove as he whips back his sweaty hair in slow motion??
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link
let's go bucs
Asked why payroll went down, Nutting said, "We need to focus on the things we believe are controllable."— Bill Brink (@BrinkPG) February 20, 2019
Asked "Is payroll not controllable?" Nutting said, "I think payroll scale and range, broadly, is not controllable. We’re going to have certain resources that we have, and I think that that’s the reality of a marketplace." https://t.co/Z9cKr85bM8— Bill Brink (@BrinkPG) February 20, 2019
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link
fuck
hello friends. I have made the exciting and absolutely petrifying decision to accept a job with the Rays, who don't need my help. until they come to realize that, I am finished writing about baseball in the public. you are all a treasure. you may also now unfollow me— Jeff Sullivan (@based_ball) February 22, 2019
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
Yargeverything that I enjoy in life is being sucked into a black box and replaced with an alternate that’s behind a paywall
― Karl Malone, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
I do like meg rowley tho (and suggested to Ben n Sam back when I still had a Twitter) that she become the full time spot-starter if either of them got sick or jury duty
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 February 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
damn lost cameron and sullivsn i'm devastated
― J0rdan S., Friday, 22 February 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link
is it official she's the new co-host?
Generally loved Sullivan on the podcast, but occasionally annoyed by his inability to pronounce names of pre-1985 players, while pronouncing the T in "often."
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 February 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link
N I’m just making an assumption and haven’t listened to the new ep yet
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
nooooooo not sullivan
― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
marwin to the twins (2/$21m)
ervin 'magic' santana to the white sox on a minor league deal
matt duchene to the columbus blue jackets
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 February 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link