i've seen that happen a few times in the last 45+ years
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
i remember hunter pence (I think? could've been michael morse) hitting a home run and the bat broke and the ball hit the bat twice, once before and once after the bat cracked. or maybe i'm making this up.
i also remember i think it was pence again hitting a home run with the bat in either one or zero of his hands upon impact. and that time michael morse had to pretend to hit a home run before running the bases. those guys have had some incredibly strange at bats
― challops trap house (Will M.), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
ok it wasn't a home run but the bat hit the ball THREE TIMES (video here)
― challops trap house (Will M.), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/6/9/2/290567692/081518_nyy_ball_double_hit.gif
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 August 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
yeah pence hat a hit like that gif and it spun the opposite way so the short stop was completely stumpedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmXOZtNjOew
― InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 17 August 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
That YouTube clip is amazing. I couldn't see it until near the end, when they slowed everything to a near-stop, and yeah, there it is, plain as day--three times. Makes me think it's not that unusual, just nearly undetectable by the human eye.
― clemenza, Friday, 17 August 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
pirates hit into seven double plays against the cubs last night, tying the record
― na (NA), Saturday, 18 August 2018 11:28 (five years ago) link
deGrom ties record of Cubs righty King Cole, who also went 25 straight starts giving up three or fewer runs in 1910, when he went 20-4 with a 1.80 ERA.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 11:04 (five years ago) link
The Reds are now 1-19 when Homer Bailey starts after losing 3-2 to the Pirates. Bailey is 1-14 with a 6.09 ERA and his only win came against the Dodgers back in May. Only once before has a team lost 19 of a pitcher's first 20 starts: Frank Bates of the 1899 Cleveland Spiders. Who folded after the season.
― mookieproof, Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:17 (five years ago) link
i know this is silly and incidental (and trivial) but last time i saw him pitch he just looked sad the entire time, even before he started getting his ass kicked
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link
this doesn't look like a sad face but it'll have to do
https://i.imgur.com/AZ0Z9xd.jpg
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 6 September 2018 04:23 (five years ago) link
I've been wondering about the answer to this: which pitcher has the highest career WAR who never received a single Cy Young vote? Does anyone with better search skills than me know how to find the answer? Obviously we're talking about pitchers in the era of Cy Young awards in both leagues, i.e. 1967 and onward.
I've found a few notable pitchers who earned downballot votes in a single year (e.g. Javier Vazquez, 45.9 career WAR). For all I know the answer might be a middle reliever.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 9 September 2018 08:55 (five years ago) link
I just plowed through the list of WAR leaders manually, and the answer seems to be a little below Vazquez: Tom Candiotti, career WAR of 42.5 with no Cy Young votes. Mark Buehrle and Chuck Finley were both around 60.0 and only had one mid-ballot finish each.
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 September 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
For closers, I know that Henke never got a Cy vote, and he finished with a career WAR of 23.0; that could be the highest for a closer, I don't know. (Also one of the best final seasons ever: 36 saves, 1.82 ERA, and exactly one 10th-place MVP vote.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 September 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link
What’s always been funny to me historically is how well closers have done in MVP balloting vs starting pitchers. I’m not saying they always do better but they always nab a decent number of votes and since 1980 in the AL they’ve taken home three trophies (vs SPs who have won a pair.) and I mean I doubt any of them deserved to be in the top 5 or even 10. That goes for the Cy Young as well.
― omar little, Sunday, 9 September 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link
Willie Hernandez have a 4.8 WAR (according to BR) and pitch in 80 games and 149 innings in 1984 as a closer. He was 4th on the Tigers in WAR, but ahead of Jack Morris who was 8th w/ 2.5 WAR.
― earlnash, Monday, 10 September 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link
Chuck Finley, Mark Langston, and John Lackey were three of the names I checked (Angels starters seem to have a talent for this). Candiotti seems like a reasonable answer!
Willie Hernandez likely deserved his award, as would anyone pitching 150 innings in relief with a sub-2.00 ERA (if such a thing still happened in today's game). I don't think that WAR values these types of players correctly.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 10 September 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
trivia: first player to hit a HR as a grandfather (that sounds odd, but i mean that they were a grandfather when they hit the HR)
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link
i'm gonna need hints for that
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:58 (five years ago) link
one big one: I'm watching my fav team right now
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link
and it's a player that most people have heard of
http://mlb.mlb.com//assets/images/5/5/2/148734552/MusialRockingChair_vfs05b0p.jpg
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link
oic
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link
I found about 22 instances of a relative pinch hitting for another, s.1908.We don't have player anniversary dates, so some of the in-laws may not have been related at the time of PHing. Big gap in our dataset.https://t.co/OMMJtamjT3cc: @Bencjacobs @dougcutchins pic.twitter.com/J5WqL5TBV9— Sean Forman (@sean_forman) September 12, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link
the son-in-law PH is vital trivia
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
That it's only happened once in the last 15 years (and 9 years ago) reflects on how the game is even more competitive now and there will be fewer opportunities for this to occur in the future.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
X-post on Musial: his grandson had been born earlier the same day, and it was his first AB as a grandfather.
http://www.mlb.com/cut4/stan-musial-once-hit-a-homer-after-becoming-a-grandfather/c-148537416
― clemenza, Friday, 14 September 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link
Orlando Arcia bunted for a double yesterday. it was the 23rd bunt double on record (since 1988). it was the sixth by a right-handed batter. it was the first with multiple baserunners— Jeff Sullivan (@based_ball) September 15, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
I attended the '85 matchup
When Jacob deGrom (1.71 ERA) faces Chris Sale (1.96) today, it will be MLB's first matchup of starters with sub-2.00 ERAs and at least 100 IP since Dwight Gooden (1.74) faced the Cardinals' John Tudor (1.95) at Shea Stadium in 1985, per Elias.— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) September 16, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link
so sweet my god
https://www.mlb.com/brewers/video/arcias-2-run-bunt-double/c-2487986383
more of this sort of thing. PARTICULARLY against the shift and particularly if it's BAD FOR BASEBALL
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link
xpost
is this the game? turned out to be a pitcher's duel, unsurprisingly: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN198509110.shtml
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
tudor pitched 10 innings and had a game score of 91; gooden pitched 9, game score 81
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
Yep! Orosco entered in the 10th and immediately yielded a solo HR by Cesar Cedeno.
Keith Hernandez made a great play on a bunt to the third base side of the mound (looks like by Tudor in the 7th) and got an out at third. Never saw a first baseman do that before or since.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 September 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
on that same day, pete rose passed ty cobb
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 September 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
yes, at least until they recounted Cobb's hits
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 September 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
john tudor, whom the pirates famously dealt to the cardinals the previous winter for joggin' george hendrick, who hit .230/.278/.313 with two homers in 69 games before being dispatched to anaheim for a bag of balls
i mean look at this (57-104) 1985 pirates team: https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/PIT/1985.shtml
they traded *for* johnnie lemaster, who had already posted -1.1 bWAR in *23 games* with last-place san francisco and cleveland that season. there is a guy who has to be among the worst ever to play 1000 major league games
about all you can say is that rick reuschel had a great year at age 36
yes i'm still bitter
― mookieproof, Sunday, 16 September 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
-1.1 bWAR in *23 games*
now that's amazing
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 September 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
Is it? James Shields' 2016 season seems as dismal...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 September 2018 02:38 (five years ago) link
it's pretty impressive for a utility infielder (or any non-pitcher). he only played the entire game in six of those 23, btw
he went 3-for-36 (all singles) with one walk, one run scored, one caught stealing and 11 strikeouts. also made three errors in 61 total chances at shortstop
― mookieproof, Monday, 17 September 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link
by fangraphs WAR johnnie lemaster is indeed the second-worst position player of all time to play 1000 games, behind former mets great doug flynn
― mookieproof, Monday, 17 September 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link
i would like to play major league baseball as a SS for 23 games, just so i could demolish the record for negative WAR
― Karl Malone, Monday, 17 September 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link
i would probably get hit by a changeup in the leg and die, though
Dee Gordon has eight walks and nine hit-by-pitches. the last qualified batter to have more hit-by-pitches than walks was Ollie O'Mara (1918)— Jeff Sullivan (@based_ball) September 18, 2018
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
Deadball Dee
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
I need help from the Twitterverse!Tuesday's walkoff HR in LA: Chris Taylor (No. 3 in your program) off Adam Ottavino (No. 0)As @dakern74 mused, this is probably the lowest hitter/pitcher walkoff HR uniform total everIf you can find the "record" I'll credit you in my column!— Jayson Stark (@jaysonst) September 20, 2018
― mookieproof, Thursday, 20 September 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link
That is one stupid thing to get paid to do, Jayson Stark. I guess that's why you're outsourcing the work.
― WmC, Thursday, 20 September 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link
i just responded with a couple lower ones because i have NOTHING to do at work right now
― vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link
xpost lol embarrassing
oh and i missed "walkoff" double embarrassing
― vote no on ilxit (Will M.), Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
Eh don't mind me I have a permanently sour mood.
― WmC, Thursday, 20 September 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link