2016-2017 Hot Stove

looks like the return package is Luke Dykstra (son of lenny) and pitchers John Gant and Chris Ellis.

clearing salary

jfc what is atlanta doing trading prospects

none of them are good

Garcia was only owed $12 million for 2017. I was hoping they'd get more in return for him, or that he could be a part of a larger package to get a CF.

Oh well

still probably more useful to atlanta in 2017 than jaime garcia will be

xp

i mean i guess i'll eat my hat if atlanta actually competes next year but maybe not? they shouldn't be doing anything to make them worse in 2018 and beyond for an injured one-year guy. they're doing that very stupid thing where the horrible team improves in the second half and they start thinking way too soon. it could happen next year but why risk it for a bunch of old pitchers

they should still be selling teheran

if the prospects truly are meh, then it's a great deal for atlanta. jaime is actually really good. it's not hard for me to imagine him outperforming everyone on both the cardinals and braves pitching staffs next year, and if he does, the barves could flip him at the trade deadline for a nice ROI

dykstra can hit (in low a) but zero power
gant might have some promise but not a lot
ellis walked 87 batters (fifth-most in the minors) in 146 innings this year

only owed $12 million for 2017

ikr? the pirates had to send prospects along *with* francisco liriano to get out from under the $13.6m he's owed this year. and yeah he was putrid last year (in pittsburgh; somewhat better in toronto) but steamer still has him at 2 WAR for 2017

that fuckin trade is gonna be even better when the pirates non-tender drew hutchison tomorrow

sorry, still bitter

in other news, the orioles have acquired logan schafer and logan verrett within two days of each other

i was gonna make a moneyball joke but i looked up "logan" on fangraphs and wow white people really liked that name in the 80s

@sdutdennislin
Woah. The Padres non-tendered Tyson Ross, Alexi Amarista, Jon Edwards, Erik Johnson, Jose Pirela and Hector Sanchez.

(very jon miller voice)

carlos . . . belTRAN has signed a one-year, $16m deal with the astros!

matt holliday to the yanks on a one-year

melancon to the giants; rumored at roughly 4 years/$62m

rich hill resigned with dodgers, 3 years

re-signed, not resigned

$48 million! good for him, that's a great story. i was a bit worried he'd be the reason the cubs would fail in the NLCS if it went to game 7 but i was happy for him. through this season he'd made like $3 million over his entire career.

that's more or less what EW Podcast thought he would get, right?

All great deals imo (Melancon and Hill and Beltran)

Also Steve Pearce to the Jays. 2 years, 12.5 m$

one team away from the full AL East experience

Rich Hill's deal is good for him, but 3 years for a guy at age 37 with his injury track record even for well as he pitched last year seems a huge stretch to me. But hey it's the Dodgers, they have blown far more money than that on players in the past few years and anything that might lead to them losing is not a bad thing.

supposedly the dodgers think they can get 120 innings per year out of him -- something he's only accomplished once, in 2007

someone pointed out that hill is both older than and has fewer career strikeouts than . . . mark prior

it's weird that everyone talks about him assuming he'll throw like an ace when he's healthy. even great pitchers with great age-36 seasons are expected to drop off at any moment

his injuries mask his age. or maybe he should've been the best pitcher of all time

otoh he's been really good his 35 and 36 year old seasons, his injury this year was a blister, and there are limited good pitching options right now

tyler thornburg to the red sox

chris sale to the red sox

for moncada/kopech/two other (pitching?) prospects

http://i.imgur.com/nLdRZCM.jpg

uniform designer in boston just got a little more nervous than usual

@jjcoop36
If this trade goes through, Dombrowski has traded 4 of top 5 prospects in Red Sox system who were there when he arrived.

price, sale, porcello is a nice 1-2-3, for one year at least.

v. lefty-heavy rotation at the moment

very money themed too... price, sale, sounds-like-buck-holds

should have signed rich hill

this is better for the white sox than that proposed deal with the nats

dombrowski has now traded both basabe twins (luis alexander and luis alejandro) in a five-month span

babsabe has ben berry berry good to dombrowski

Moncada/T. Anderson pretty good block to build around.

mitch moreland to the red sox

i like it! (as a Jays fan)

Cubs working on a Wade Davis deal

Wilson Ramos inked a two-year deal with the Rays

the jeff locke era has begun in miami

ian desmond to colorado, where he will play outfield and first base (?)

also colorado loses the 11th overall pick in the draft

apparently soler is who the cubs might trade for davis. i'd be ok with losing soler

ian desmond seems like a poor choice to cost you the 11th overall pick.

the rockies don't seem to make good decisions

think we have a 2017 thread title there.