Stay Healthy, Please: The Clayton Kershaw Thread

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he's sposed to pitch vs Bartolo (again) in NY next Sunday night, which means there should be some decent tix available due to the time switch

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 May 2016 14:02 (ten years ago)

(ok, not as many as there wd be on a non-holiday weekend)

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 May 2016 17:26 (ten years ago)

not as many as there were when i bought in anticipation 3 weeks ago

normcore strengthening exercises (benbbag), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:12 (ten years ago)

wow kudos

mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:47 (ten years ago)

maddux alert through 8

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 May 2016 04:09 (ten years ago)

https://twitter.com/SamMillerBP/status/734966240888819712

k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 May 2016 16:39 (ten years ago)

Obviously a little giddy and premature, but I love this:

•In five May starts, he has had more shutouts (three) than walks (two).

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/180219652/clayton-kershaw-goat-may-2016-dodgers?partnerId=ed-10369488-658620023

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:36 (ten years ago)

his k/bb ratio rn is 100/5 o_o

johnny crunch, Monday, 30 May 2016 01:05 (ten years ago)

10 ks and no walks in 7.2 IP and who gets the win? adam liberatore, who blew a save in seven pitches.

this has been your daily outrage over something no one cares about anymore

qualx, Monday, 30 May 2016 06:44 (ten years ago)

https://twitter.com/BillPetti/status/737280851524911105

k3vin k., Monday, 30 May 2016 14:54 (ten years ago)

I was messing around last night with a six-year peak (consecutive seasons) comparison between some recent pitchers--I didn't write anything down, but I think it was Pedro first, Kershaw or Maddux second, Johnson and Seaver and Clemens behind them.

clemenza, Monday, 30 May 2016 19:30 (ten years ago)

Years and years of research here:

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/pitchers_zpso9ar9u74.jpg

In honor of Adam Liberatore, I included wins and losses.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:43 (ten years ago)

Seaver was hurt in '74--I should have gone '68-72 for him:

100-53, 2.38, 147+, 1.030, 3.52.

With that in mind, I'd rank them 1) Pedro, 2) Kershaw/Maddux, 4) Johnson, 5) Clemens/Seaver.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:49 (ten years ago)

Aargh--let's try Seaver again, '68-73:

119-63, 2.32, 151+, 1.021, 3.58.

Same ranking.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:51 (ten years ago)

At home, against Atlanta, opposing pitcher 1-6 with an ERA near 6.00. Dodgers won last night, the Braves have lost two in a row. Betting $100 on Atlanta wins $400+. If I could, I would make that bet--the set-up is just too perfect.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 June 2016 14:03 (ten years ago)

Just for fun--my own--Kershaw's line minus his one bad start against Miami:

Games started - 12
W/L - 9-0
Team W/L - 12-0
QS - 12
Average game score - 77
IP - 93.2
R - 13
ER - 12
H - 53
BB - 5
K - 112
ERA - 1.15
WHIP - 0.622
K/BB - 22.40

clemenza, Saturday, 11 June 2016 16:31 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

@McCulloughTimes
Clayton Kershaw is being flown back to Los Angeles to see team doctors.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 21:44 (nine years ago)

Stay healthy, please.

clemenza, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 00:26 (nine years ago)

ffs please

k3vin k., Wednesday, 29 June 2016 02:29 (nine years ago)

at least it's a sore back, to counterpoint the trendy arm apocalypses.

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 14:36 (nine years ago)

got an epidural(?!), going on the DL

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:24 (nine years ago)

:( hope the birth goes well stay strong little kersh jr

qualx, Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:41 (nine years ago)

‏@McCulloughTimes
Dave Roberts initially said the team hoped Kershaw would be back after the break, but then he backed off that. May be a little longer.

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:45 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3TuOQkN7e0

Edgard Varese is god (of music anyways) (outdoor_miner), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:56 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

@McCulloughTimes
Clayton Kershaw "didn't feel great" on Sunday, Dave Roberts said. He's shut down until his back pain goes away. His return? "Uncertain."

Andy K, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:29 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

Out until at least Aug. 27.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/dodgers-ace-clayton-kershaw-moved-to-60-day-dl-080316

I'd shut him down for the year, but they're close enough in the standings to complicate that.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 August 2016 01:23 (nine years ago)

The starting pitching is doing very well without him iirc

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:15 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

Looks like he's close to returning:

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/196718316/clayton-kershaw-throws-bullpen-session/

I'd say it's amazing that the Dodgers have taken over first in his absence, except it's an old story: everyone--GMs, writers, fans, me--tends to over-value the importance of one player. (Truer for pitchers, but holds for position players too.)

clemenza, Sunday, 21 August 2016 03:31 (nine years ago)

hasn't pitched in 8 weeks and leads NL pitchers in both kinds of WAR. nuts.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2016 16:51 (nine years ago)

3-inning start for Rancho Cucamonga today

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 September 2016 15:46 (nine years ago)

great job Kersh! said he's gonna start for LA in 4 games

Bandol soleil for the St. Tropez tan (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 4 September 2016 03:25 (nine years ago)

If he goes Friday and continues to take his regular turn, he'll have five more starts. I could see where his Cy Young case is still strong if he pitches well, but I think all the calendar time missed would point to Scherzer or Bumgarner. It could be a little like the year Josh Hamilton missed the last month of the season; he held on to the MVP, but I don't Kershaw will.

clemenza, Monday, 5 September 2016 02:57 (nine years ago)

eight months pass...

Will become the second-fastest to 2,000 K tonight (after Randy Johnson). So not the second-youngest--I did a double-take at first. I'm guessing Seaver, Clemens, and Blyleven got there younger. Maybe Ryan, too; he got a bit of a late start, though. And the war probably interrupted Feller.

clemenza, Saturday, 3 June 2017 00:36 (nine years ago)

No Seaver, no Clemens--very surprised.

http://groundballwitheyes.blogspot.ca/2015/05/youngest-pitchers-to-reach-2000.html

clemenza, Saturday, 3 June 2017 00:37 (nine years ago)

every time i see this thread title in my bookmarks my heart skips a beat

qualx, Saturday, 3 June 2017 00:41 (nine years ago)

Scherzer's just a couple of points from overtaking Kershaw on Bill James's "#1 Starting Pitcher Rankings" (it's all based on Game Scores, includes postseason play, and is a year-over-year running ranking):

1. Clayton Kershaw - 589.4
2. Max Scherzer - 587.2
3. Chris Sale - 557
4. Corey Kluber - 537.5
5. Madison Bumgarner - 531

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 18:28 (nine years ago)

4 walks for kershaw tonight. he hasn't looked quite right this year
― k3vin k., Saturday, May 6, 2017 11:17 PM (one month ago)

Having a great year, but I think you were onto something there. 7-0 lead tonight, proceeded to give up three HR; that's 16 for the year, tying his career high before the break.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:04 (eight years ago)

make that 4

qualx, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 05:08 (eight years ago)

how the fuck did he give up 2 to Reyes?

cheap 6-ER win for CK.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 10:53 (eight years ago)

past calendar year:

kershaw: 137.1 IP, 3.5 fWAR
jansen: 69.1 IP, 3.7 fWAR

k3vin k., Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:40 (eight years ago)

Got out of a bases-loaded, one-out jam in the first, great after that.

Overall, definitely his shakiest year in a while. Going through his game log, though, he's only had the one (really) cheap win last week; every other win was 7+ innings, 0, 1, or 2 runs. There was one cheap no-decision (4.1 innings, 4 runs), and he wasn't good in either loss (6 innings and 4 runs in both). His other two no-decisions he pitched well (16 innings, 2 runs).

It wouldn't be accurate to say the gaudy W-L record is a mirage--reverse the cheap win, call the no-decisions a wash, and he'd be 10-3.

It's the home runs that have killed him this year (leading to his worst FIP since 2010 by a big margin). Everything else is right in line with 2011-2013 Kershaw, if not always the last three seasons.

clemenza, Sunday, 25 June 2017 13:25 (eight years ago)

he's 93-0 when dodgers give him at least 4 runs of support

freedom is not having to measure life with a ruler (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 25 June 2017 14:19 (eight years ago)

Wanted to get some context for that, but Baseball Reference breaks down pitcher's starts by 0-2 runs of support, 3-5, and 6+. Anyway, with 6+:

Clemens: 179-5
Johnson: 160-11
Pedro: 105-3
Maddux: 173-10

Am I reading that correctly? All of them got six or more runs of support in half their wins? That seems really high.

clemenza, Sunday, 25 June 2017 15:26 (eight years ago)

all of them played half their careers in the steroid era

qualx, Sunday, 25 June 2017 15:28 (eight years ago)

It's almost like there's something flawed with the Win statistic ;)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 25 June 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)

I knew I was teeing one up there...Had no idea the percentage was that high, though. Era would explain some of that, yeah; I also wonder if that includes runs scored for the entire game, i.e. any runs scored after the pitcher leaves. So a guy could leave with a 2-1 lead in the seventh, his team scores four runs in the eighth/ninth, and it ends up looking like he won a blowout.

clemenza, Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:01 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

Since his terrible start against the Cubs:

36 IP, 22 H, 51 K, 6 BB, 2 ER.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 16:34 (eight years ago)

pretty sure that includes 4 shutouts in his last 5 outings (incl one stretch of 3 in a row!) i think maybe you mean against the mets, clem, when he gave up 3 or 4 homers june 19

freedom is not having to measure life with a ruler (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)

June 19 against the Mets, you're right--the Cubs go back to May 28. He had three good starts between the two.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:19 (eight years ago)


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